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Other than bullshit CEC issues, I'm liking my Samsung OLED quite a bit. Great deal 77" for $2k.
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# ? Apr 24, 2024 13:52 |
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# ? May 8, 2024 04:16 |
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I’ve seen 55 and 65 mentioned at Target, has anyone seen 77?
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# ? Apr 24, 2024 14:52 |
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There are reports that some Target stores are selling 65" C3s for $1k, which is batshit.
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 05:12 |
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You mean the conversation that is currently happening? I went to my local today to try my luck, and nada.
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 05:45 |
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It's not $1000, but Costco at least has them at $1499 with the free five year warranty. I got them to price match the one I bought a bit ago for $1599 (and it hasn't even been delivered yet lol)
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 12:11 |
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BonoMan posted:What are the options for better sound that's not in bookshelf speaker form. My wife *hates* the way bookshelf speakers look by the TV. She likes a soundbar just bc aesthetically it's slim and low profile and blends into furniture. She's down for me upgrading the sound as long as it's visually pleasing. A speaker's job is to move air. To do that, it needs surface area to come in contact with the air, and that surface area needs to be facing the direction the sound goes (i.e., towards you). Slim and surface area are mutually exclusive. They don't have to be ugly though. Buy a pair of these.
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 14:57 |
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KillHour posted:A speaker's job is to move air. To do that, it needs surface area to come in contact with the air, and that surface area needs to be facing the direction the sound goes (i.e., towards you). Slim and surface area are mutually exclusive. Give a fella a link to those
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 15:28 |
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I haven't bought a TV in...a very long time. I think I paid $800 for a 42" LED screen, and it was a great deal at the time. What are the key details/features these days? I see OLED, Mini-LED, QLED, etc etc. I've read a few things about it, but I'd like some value judgment on the topic. I'm not an avid screen enthusiast with a home theater room; this is going up in the family room. Plenty of Bluey, occasionally a video game. The two most important considerations I would have is that it would need to do well in a room with a lot of ambient light, and function well as a display that spends 99% of its time running off a PC. (I run our TV today as a monitor for a PC and access all the streaming services from a web browser, as well as all the media I have saved.)
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 15:29 |
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DoubleT2172 posted:Give a fella a link to those https://www.klipsch.com/products/la-scala-al-5 https://upscaleaudio.com/products/klipsch-la-scala-al5-loudspeaker-each
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 15:48 |
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Just buy a speaker that looks good! ($6500 per speaker)
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 16:24 |
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KillHour posted:A speaker's job is to move air. To do that, it needs surface area to come in contact with the air, and that surface area needs to be facing the direction the sound goes (i.e., towards you). Slim and surface area are mutually exclusive. Edit so I don't sound too snarky. I wasn't really asking for slim speakers. Just stating why my wife prefers a soundbar over bookshelf speakers. They're just aesthetically less present. quote:
These are gorgeous goddamn and right up our alley style-wise... but yeah way out of range. BonoMan fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Apr 25, 2024 |
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GreenNight posted:Just buy a speaker that looks good! ($6500 per speaker) Obviously I'm joking about buying those specific ones (although they have been around since literally forever and you can pick them up used for a lot less. Here's a pair on ebay for 4k: https://www.ebay.com/itm/404913718315). The point was more that getting speakers that are meant to be seen might be a better option than getting speakers that are easier to hide. It's just that if you want something to look like high-end furniture, you're going to pay high-end furniture prices. Good speakers will still be good speakers 30 years from now. Other, (slightly) less expensive options: JBL L52 Classic: https://www.jbl.com/classic-series/L52.html?dwvar_L52_color=Blue-GLOBAL-Current&cgid=Classic-Series Klipsch Heresy: https://upscaleaudio.com/products/klipsch-heresy-iv-loudspeaker-each AudioEngine HD5: https://audioengine.com/shop/speakers/hd-series/hd5-home-music-system/ KLH Model 5: https://klhaudio.com/model-five-pair-english-walnut/ BonoMan posted:Thanks, I'm aware of how they work! It's okay I was being a little snarky you can be snarky back Those Klipsch's are absolutely massive, so if your wife is okay with them, you have a poo poo ton of options in the vintage speaker world. Keep an eye out on FB Marketplace and local thrift stores. There are deals to be had. Edit: I find it funny though that people object to big black rectangles to either side of their gigantic 65"+ black rectangle. Double Edit: I changed my mind get these https://www.ebay.com/itm/404701155123?itmmeta=01HWB2XPV9J1PFF59XYBJ8SZCE&hash=item5e3a118f33:g:ohYAAOSwse9ldkqn (For anyone who doesn't know, the back is "missing" because they are designed to be installed into the corners of a room. The walls literally serve as part of the speaker. You can even see the cutouts for baseboards.) KillHour fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Apr 25, 2024 |
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Yamaha makes their HS series, I have a set of their HS-8 which are pretty reasonably priced about https://www.amazon.com/Denon-Professional-DN-200BR-Bluetooth-Receiver/dp/B015HYSG5E/ https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Active-Powered-Studio-Monitor/dp/B00KDWM9C2/ They have HS7 and HS5 as well, at smaller physical side and price points Edit: also notably they have an 8" woofer which is probably the largest/lowest response you're going to get in "bookshelf class" without a subwoofer. They also have an extremely flat frequency response, which I'm told is a good thing Hadlock fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Apr 25, 2024 |
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Those speakers are similarly priced to the furniture in the room, a genuine Eames lounge chair is $6-10k. If your living room is big enough to comfortably fit La Scalas, which are the size of a refrigerator, it shouldn't be an issue. Like everything in audio it's possible to spend between 20 and infinity dollars on any piece of it. Slim towers can be an easy way to go, look decent if you leave the grilles on and a lot of them aren't super expensive. Check out Polk or Jamo on the lower end.
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 19:15 |
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KillHour posted:https://www.klipsch.com/products/la-scala-al-5 Nevermind
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 19:25 |
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I got klh model 5s and love the look. Sound pretty good too.
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 19:40 |
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For floor-standers, there are plenty of options here: https://www.accessories4less.com/?type=&page=category&action=&id=spkfloor&mode=&search_query=&category=&thumb_sort=store_price.asc A4L is a terrific shop - many of us have bought from them. They're the official refurb outlet for several brands, including KEF and Focal.
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 20:09 |
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KillHour posted:A speaker's job is to move air. To do that, it needs surface area to come in contact with the air, and that surface area needs to be facing the direction the sound goes (i.e., towards you). Slim and surface area are mutually exclusive. Pretty sure that chair (and footrest) cost more than my tv did.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 00:52 |
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phosdex posted:I got klh model 5s and love the look. Sound pretty good too. If I was trying to deck out a mid century modern living room without spending La Scala money and didn't want to hunt around for used deals, they would probably be my first choice. Mister Facetious posted:Pretty sure that chair (and footrest) cost more than my tv did. If it's a real Eames chair, it's up there with the speakers https://store.hermanmiller.com/living-room-furniture-lounge-chairs-ottomans/eames-lounge-chair-and-ottoman/5667.html?lang=en_US&sku=9120884 Edit: $6700 in that wood/leather combo after 20% off. Free shipping though. Hadlock posted:They also have an extremely flat frequency response, which I'm told is a good thing This is getting waaaay out of the scope of this thread, but not only is that not necessarily a good thing, but they don't even have a particularly flat response. I don't remember the details, but the reputation of being extremely flat came from the original NS-10M, which was ubiquitous in recording studios for literally decades and even Yamaha's own page about the speaker says it isn't true: https://hub.yamaha.com/proaudio/recording/a-history-of-yamaha-studio-reference-monitors/ In fact, the NS-10M's were so ubiquitous specifically because they made poorly-mastered music sound like total poo poo. The thought was that if you could make your mix sound good on them, they would sound good on anything. At some point, that turned into "every recording studio has these so they must be good." The modern ones are much better, but still not particularly flat compared to other studio monitors. And whether you actually want a flat frequency response for listening depends on a ton of factors. KillHour fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Apr 26, 2024 |
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I will say. I got a pair of these for my floor standers and they sound awesome. https://www.accessories4less.com/ma...!specifications
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 15:11 |
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Oh yeah I got the same ones, but 15 years ago and I'll have them until I die.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 15:11 |
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After 2 weeks of using an LG C3, I think the good gray uniformity is my favorite aspect of it, even more than the OLED black levels. I did think the cheapo TCL and Hisense TVs I had before this looked decent but god drat they looked awful around the edges, especially when solid colors were on screen. I actually don’t mind webos either for streaming and I think I’ll use its apps for now over a dedicated streaming box. I’m surprised they let you disable ads on the homescreen.
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 03:49 |
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Those that have the C3 and the Mister FPGA, what kind of settings have you been using? tV showed up and I got the next five days off to unpack from my move yesterday and also play Mister 😈😈
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# ? May 2, 2024 00:06 |
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Captain Yossarian posted:Those that have the C3 and the Mister FPGA, what kind of settings have you been using? tV showed up and I got the next five days off to unpack from my move yesterday and also play Mister 😈😈 I don’t have a mister but I play an analogue pocket docked. I have it on game optimizer with boost mode but everything else off, sharpness to zero, etc. I also changed the color temp to warm 50 since that’s most accurate apparently.
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# ? May 2, 2024 18:38 |
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On the Mister.ini side I have my video mode set to 14 (1440p60) and use VRR=1. I can't recall if there were any other ini changes I had to make.
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# ? May 2, 2024 18:44 |
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Dumb question time! Regarding optimal viewing distance from TVs. Obviously is you're too far away, you lose the benefit of 4k over 1080p. But if you get too close to take advantage of everything 4k can do - 1080p might start to look pixelated. I assume you'd be upscaling the 1080p perhaps, but I'm wondering. Is there any magic middle ground for viewing distance? Close enough for 4k to shine, without 1080p looking bad? Or is the answer "it upscales, and you don't worry about it?"
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# ? May 2, 2024 19:29 |
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Most 4K tvs upscale 1080p well so I wouldn't worry about it.
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# ? May 2, 2024 19:31 |
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SeANMcBAY posted:I don’t have a mister but I play an analogue pocket docked. I have it on game optimizer with boost mode but everything else off, sharpness to zero, etc. I also changed the color temp to warm 50 since that’s most accurate apparently. Enos Cabell posted:On the Mister.ini side I have my video mode set to 14 (1440p60) and use VRR=1. I can't recall if there were any other ini changes I had to make. Awesome thanks!!!
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# ? May 2, 2024 19:47 |
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SeANMcBAY posted:Most 4K tvs upscale 1080p well so I wouldn't worry about it. Thanks. Was starting to assume - if you're buying a decent enough TV the upscaling would be decent enough to leave the 1080 native content looking good up close.
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# ? May 2, 2024 20:05 |
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Tony Phillips posted:Thanks. Was starting to assume - if you're buying a decent enough TV the upscaling would be decent enough to leave the 1080 native content looking good up close. RTings does have a section in reviews for how well specific models upscale lower resolution content, although I think it’s most important for 720p and below upscaling. My C3 does a great job with 480p, I was shocked how good GameCube games looked via a hacked Wii U over HDMI.
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# ? May 3, 2024 03:22 |
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Tony Phillips posted:Dumb question time! I've always followed the personal rule of thumb that viewing distance should be around the TV's size, plus a foot or two. That's worked for me, regardless if it's a monitor, a 51" 1080p plasma, or my current 65", 4K TV. And it also depends on the room you're going too watch it in. Older places that don't use the open floor plan, "you stick the tv next to one wall, and the couch next to the opposite one." and call it a day 🤷🏻♂️
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# ? May 3, 2024 03:42 |
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Picked up BBC Earth's The Green Planet UHD Blu-ray. Episode 1: Drones making camera work from the jungle canopy to the forest floor look easy. Lot of time-lapse photography on vines, ant colonies, etc. Insert Star Wars meme about never thinking there was this much green in the entire galaxy here. I can actually pick out color definition between the sky and clouds through the leaves on my TV as the camera is looking up.
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# ? May 4, 2024 17:54 |
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I made the mistake of buying a TV with built-in FireTV because it was cheap. It's slow as poo poo and infuriating, especially compared to my other FireTV Cube. Would there be any issue hooking up a FireTV stick? I ask because all of the TV functions are built into the on-board FireTV.
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# ? May 4, 2024 19:11 |
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Should be fine. It uses an hdmi input, and Casting froma phone/tablet lets you select the target device, so you can specify the stick and not the television. You can also make it simpler by disconnecting the TV from the network, too.
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# ? May 4, 2024 19:17 |
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I bought one cheap Roku TV and one cheap Fire TV for both kids a while back. This is where Rokus interface shows up. It's not as fast as a standalone Roku of course but def fine. The cheap Fire TV on the other hand just can't even loving manage it's own OS. Just absolute dog poo poo. I mean... I get that it's a cheap TV but it's nigh on usuable
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# ? May 4, 2024 19:38 |
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BonoMan posted:I bought one cheap Roku TV and one cheap Fire TV for both kids a while back. This is where Rokus interface shows up. It's not as fast as a standalone Roku of course but def fine. Bezos: "I want you to get every Fire product's internals down to the price of a Chromecast, can you do that?" Engineer: "Yes sir Mister Bezos sir, we can do that." Jeff: "That's great; now can you get them down to the price of a used Chromecast?" Engineer: "..." Engineer: "Yeah, I think we can get that done sir."
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# ? May 4, 2024 21:22 |
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It's so loving bad. Like, why would they do this to save .25 per unit on 'flagship' televisions. A FireTV stick is cheap as gently caress considering its performance.
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# ? May 4, 2024 22:16 |
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That's how I feel when I get an OLED and the ethernet port is only 100mbit. Really how much did you save not making these gigabit?
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# ? May 4, 2024 22:30 |
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GreenNight posted:That's how I feel when I get an OLED and the ethernet port is only 100mbit. Really how much did you save not making these gigabit? Devil's advocate: is the hardware decoder in the TV even capable of decoding video streams >100mbit?
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# ? May 8, 2024 04:16 |
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Yes, you can connect to the network with WiFi and not get bottlenecks you have with the wired connection.
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