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Cybernetic Vermin posted:probably excessively simplified to blame one guy to that extent though. like, article wants to make him out to be a big business guy but his credentials are actually ridiculously good, and it seems to try to make it a pattern that he was head of search at yahoo when his bosses cut a deal with bing instead, with him pressuring the head of search at google with business deal things. Google is famous for its extremely forgiving, fair, and straightforward engineering hiring practices. It's nice to see that they're extending that culture to executive recruitment. Besides, So what if he was at the wheel when Google trounced Yahoo search? If anything his experience with search on the losing team will bring a lot of fresh perspectives to a company blinded by decades of innovating and winning.
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Internet Old One posted:Google is famous for its extremely forgiving, fair, and straightforward engineering hiring practices. It's nice to see that they're extending that culture to executive recruitment. part of what i find weird about the take is precisely that he wasn't at *any* wheel when yahoo got trounced. he headed yahoo labs which did work on search, but actual management licensed bing and went on an acquiring spree. like, i can buy that the guy hosed up everything he touched at yahoo but nothing he touched at yahoo was used near as i can tell, and there were piles of management of the actual business and above him that seem more central to the fuckup? rather the same with google in the particular moment described, presumably there were a whole management hierarchy above them that actually did this stuff, it is hardly good that the head of ads asked search to get people to look at more ads, but i don't know that i'd really *expect* the head of ads to express anything else
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 14:58 |
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this is a systemic failure and by definition a systemic failure involves many parts of a system coordinating together to eat poo poo so it probably wasn’t just that one dude, but that’s like saying oh it’s okay it wasn’t just one mouse that chewed up all your socks
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 15:13 |
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:part of what i find weird about the take is precisely that he wasn't at *any* wheel when yahoo got trounced. he headed yahoo labs which did work on search, but actual management licensed bing and went on an acquiring spree. as noted this is my nitpick with ed's theory too. like, it's well thought out of course (it is ed after all), but i feel like he fundamentally misunderstands that yahoo didn't really even have a search engine at the time. google, of course, has its own product, it's just become as bad as bing
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Beeftweeter posted:i don't even know what "head of search" does at yahoo when you've basically rented bing results they weren't renting bing results when he started, but they were by the time his tenure there ended
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infernal machines posted:they weren't renting bing results when he started, but they were by the time his tenure there ended at that time, i could swear they were at least in the middle of transitioning to it. that happened before the guy started, i thought?
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Beeftweeter posted:at that time, i could swear they were at least in the middle of transitioning to it. that happened before the guy started, i thought? they announced the bing partnership in 2009, he headed up search at yahoo between 2005 and 2012. 2004 was when they stopped using google and built their own engine.
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 16:06 |
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either way, i think the article is a touch fanciful in how it tries to make the story neat. but, it doesn't matter too much, not like it harms anything or anyone worth worrying about. as:Optimus_Rhyme posted:The person in charge of search also pulled this today: top-tier psycho poo poo through and through
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 16:21 |
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:either way, i think the article is a touch fanciful in how it tries to make the story neat. but, it doesn't matter too much, not like it harms anything or anyone worth worrying about. as: Ed Zitron suffers from a terminal case of what I'd call "Jimquisition Syndrome". He has dedicated his content to being the Two Minutes Hate for tech and will gladly oversimplify problems and fake incredulity just to give his audience a chance to feel righteously angry. Now, since he's covering tech he's never completely off the mark, but his willingness to go off at literally everything reduces the impact he could have if he learned how to modulate the anger in his reporting.
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 16:31 |
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even the tone becomes exhausting at times. still, they're often good summaries of topics that have come up in yospos
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 16:33 |
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Anyways, Dell is from 2-3 bubbles ago, but this seemed thread-relevant...quote:Dell's remote workers will not be eligible for promotion in new policy That is certainly one way to try and kill WFH.
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LanceHunter posted:Ed Zitron suffers from a terminal case of what I'd call "Jimquisition Syndrome". He has dedicated his content to being the Two Minutes Hate for tech and will gladly oversimplify problems and fake incredulity just to give his audience a chance to feel righteously angry. Now, since he's covering tech he's never completely off the mark, but his willingness to go off at literally everything reduces the impact he could have if he learned how to modulate the anger in his reporting. Ya I would agree with that. I tried listening to his podcast and it was very much "two minutes of hate" style. I couldn't even finish an episode because of that.
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https://twitter.com/revhowardarson/status/1767606200441737350
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do you guys not know zitrons backstory or something? did you like consider him a serious journalist or smth rofl. i'm sorry. he rules and is an awesome guy and i enjoy reading his blog but he's not going for a walter cronkite thing. mans been on chapo ffs
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he's a marketing guy who writes op-eds, i don't know who thinks he's a journalist
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LanceHunter posted:Anyways, Dell is from 2-3 bubbles ago, but this seemed thread-relevant... this is some terminal management brain right here
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 16:43 |
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man has this dork like entered a search query in the last couple months lmao? next he’s gonna complain about global warming not being real because he hasn’t left his basement in 5 years
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 16:57 |
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Eeyo posted:man has this dork like entered a search query in the last couple months lmao? The simplest explanation is that his brain works like an LLM and as such, he doesn't recognize LLM output.
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infernal machines posted:he's a marketing guy who writes op-eds, i don't know who thinks he's a journalist *raises paw*
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infernal machines posted:he's a marketing guy who writes op-eds, i don't know who thinks he's a journalist yeah, he's a marketing guy, so it follows that he knows the right combination of words to make something sound simplified, sensationalized and subsequently viral (wow lots of S sounds there but hey, rolls right off the tongue, lol). like i've been saying since he's been writing, he sometimes is on the mark, sometimes he isn't. his reasoning is usually solid but i absolutely agree that sometimes he's just flat out connecting dots that don't make the picture he says it is (again, marketing guy). i don't generally mind the tone since i read them sparingly and have literally zero exposure to podcasts he's pretty insightful but it's not really much you're not going to get just reading yospos. hell most of us have figured out the whole picture while ed's busy secretly scribbling in a dot to make it connect properly
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LanceHunter posted:Anyways, Dell is from 2-3 bubbles ago, but this seemed thread-relevant... Oh no WFH could stagnate my white hot career as a consultant at Dell Technical Services. After torching my career at Kelly Girl and now this, well nobody ever gets a 3rd shot at greatness.
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 17:42 |
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is this the twitter re-reg of that anonymous google (?) computer toucher who got suspended
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Salt Fish posted:The simplest explanation is that his brain works like an LLM and as such, he doesn't recognize LLM output. yeah i assumed he was interpreting obvious LLM output as "the same old pre-AI garbage written by content farms" which, lol
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shackleford posted:is this the twitter re-reg of that anonymous google (?) computer toucher who got suspended that's theophite yeah
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 17:54 |
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is he the one who said "biotruths told me having a vagina means you can't write code" or the "the llm is a real person and is also my girlfriend now?"
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neither of those sound right to me he's the one who said this though
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qirex posted:is he the one who said "biotruths told me having a vagina means you can't write code" or the "the llm is a real person and is also my girlfriend now?" no those two guys would be james damore and blake lemoine
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shackleford posted:no those two guys would be james damore and blake lemoine moratorium on guys with those kinds of last names until we figure it out
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dioxazine posted:i for one hope they don't sell and just leave the US market entirely well… quote:ByteDance prefers TikTok shutdown in US if legal options fail, sources say:
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Optimus_Rhyme posted:The person in charge of search also pulled this today: jfc there is some management bullshit in this but some choice parts Let's start with an easy one quote:Wearing a hoodie with the words “We use Math” on the front, Google search boss Prabhakar Raghavan had an important message for employees at an all-hands meeting last month. But he first wanted them to settle in and get comfortable. quote:“People come to us because we are trusted,” Raghavan said. “They may have a new gizmo out there that people like to play with but they still come to Google to verify what they see there because it is the trusted source and it becomes more critical in this era of generative AI.” wait but your search engine returns garbage so how are you going to deal with that quote:“With a huge opportunity ahead, we’re moving with velocity and focus,” a Google spokesperson told CNBC, when asked to comment on Raghavan’s address. The spokesperson highlighted the addition of generative AI to search and improvements in search quality, adding, “There’s lots more to come.” oh you're just gonna make the results up yourself now I guess quote:He cited the European Union’s Digital Markets Act and said the company is still learning what its obligations will be from the European Commission. The DMA, which officially became enforceable last month, aims to clamp down on anti-competitive practices among tech companies. "We have been engaging in anti competitive practice so we will be in trouble" lol way to say the quiet part out loud quote:He praised the teams working on Gemini, the company’s main group of AI models. He said they’ve stepped up from working 100 hours a week to 120 hours to correct Google’s image recognition tool in a timely manner. That helped the team fix roughly 80% of the issues in just 10 days, he said. or just don't release a poo poo product because you rushed it to get in on the grift you loving psycho?
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The_Franz posted:well…
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The_Franz posted:well… [mr. burns voice] excellent
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Qualcomm is mega-juicing their numbers: https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-i...o-be-fraudulent tomshardware posted:Qualcomm responds to benchmark cheating allegations — Snapdragon X Elite/Plus benchmarks claimed to be fraudulent (Updated) Lmao.
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FlapYoJacks posted:Qualcomm is mega-juicing their numbers you don't say. surely you jest
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FlapYoJacks posted:Qualcomm is mega-juicing their numbers: quote:Even after some time had passed and cooling could be improved, however, testers still reportedly never came close to Qualcomm's curated benchmarks, with one anonymous source comparing the Snapdragon X Elite to Intel Celeron chips. the chips that infamously could be overclocked from 300 to 450 MHz?
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shackleford posted:the chips that infamously could be overclocked from 300 to 450 MHz? i assume they mean modern celerons, i.e. the ones they explicitly made sure that would not happen again with, lol but tbh i have a 11" N4400 netbook-esque thing (BMAX Y11) that i got on aliexpress a few years ago for about $180 and it's really not so bad if you have a bios that allows low-level tweaking e: drat bmax still makes the Y11, just with a newer celeron in it lol. it's a real solid case, probably still not a bad deal if you're into those kinds of laptops Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Apr 25, 2024 |
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Don't get anything with less than a n100 cpu now. The older Celeron branded CPUs are garbage in comparison and stuff with n100s is cheap now
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Beeftweeter posted:you don't say. surely you jest no one could have foreseen this
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so, just to clarify, qualcomm claimed to have made a competitive laptop chip but it turns out it is bad? that really what has now happened?
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:so, just to clarify, qualcomm claimed to have made a competitive laptop chip but it turns out it is bad? that really what has now happened? It's 40% of the claimed power yes.
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