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i use the sweet theme because it covers every loving app under the sun at this point. i don't think i can go back to a time where every app has its own distinct ugly style anymore. even all the app icons are custom to fit in line with everything else, it's a really high effort theme
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I use nixos fyi
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Nostalgic for the 1999 when the world was dominated by super opinionated windows managers developed by one kid in their basement in like 100kb of source. Don't like your current? Just hit the next one in the list and give it a try. Or hack the source to do what you need. There were like a hundred of them available. I forget the site that linked to them all though.
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xzzy posted:Nostalgic for the 1999 when the world was dominated by super opinionated windows managers developed by one kid in their basement in like 100kb of source. Don't like your current? Just hit the next one in the list and give it a try. Or hack the source to do what you need. freshmeat?
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I remember in maybe 97/98 when I installed my first Linux, Enlightenment WM was recently released. It was easy to customize to look like a Winamp skin and years later when I played Eve Online the UI reminded me of Enlightenment. I don't remember how good or bad it was, but at that time it was one of the only WMs that paid any attention to visuals. It was the hottest poo poo for a teenager like me. 
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Apr 26, 2024 07:46
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Ha, that theme looks extremely familiar.
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Factorio's devblog has an interesting section this week on developing games for linux. https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-408 Highlight: quote:Most desktop environments will allow windows to supply their own decorations if they wish but will provide a default implementation on the server side as an alternative. GNOME, in their infinite wisdom, have decided that all clients must provide their own decorations, and if a client does not, they will simply be missing.
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Apr 26, 2024 12:36
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Desktop environments on the server side, you say…
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Well, that's a fundamental design feature of X11. Gnome are the silly ones here.
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gnome is working overtime to make gnome as polished a turd as possible so this doesn't surprise me at all
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xzzy posted:Well, that's a fundamental design feature of X11. Gnome are the silly ones here. Window decorations are not part of X11 on the server side, which is why when you gently caress up your xinit and start up an X server and Xterm on the stippled background you can’t move the terminal window. they’re provided by the window manager, which is a (privileged) client to the X server—if they were part of the server they’d be the same between desktop environments, because they all use the same server
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Oops, sorry, yeah. I used to be a lot smarter. I got window manager and server crossed up in my dumb brain.
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lobsterminator posted:I remember in maybe 97/98 when I installed my first Linux, Enlightenment WM was recently released. It was easy to customize to look like a Winamp skin and years later when I played Eve Online the UI reminded me of Enlightenment. I don't remember how good or bad it was, but at that time it was one of the only WMs that paid any attention to visuals. Which version of Fallout is this?
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Subjunctive posted:Window decorations are not part of X11 on the server side, which is why when you gently caress up your xinit and start up an X server and Xterm on the stippled background you can’t move the terminal window. they’re provided by the window manager, which is a (privileged) client to the X server—if they were part of the server they’d be the same between desktop environments, because they all use the same server And every other GUI (Windows, macOS) makes individual applications draw their own decorations for good technical reasons. One of the reasons Wayland was created was specifically this issue, and the fact that KDE rolls back to X11 style window decorations is weird grognardy behavior on their part.
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pseudorandom name posted:And every other GUI (Windows, macOS) makes individual applications draw their own decorations for good technical reasons. One of the reasons Wayland was created was specifically this issue, and the fact that KDE rolls back to X11 style window decorations is weird grognardy behavior on their part.
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lobsterminator posted:I remember in maybe 97/98 when I installed my first Linux, Enlightenment WM was recently released. It was easy to customize to look like a Winamp skin and years later when I played Eve Online the UI reminded me of Enlightenment. I don't remember how good or bad it was, but at that time it was one of the only WMs that paid any attention to visuals. That really whips the llama's rear end
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hmmm true
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ziasquinn posted:hmmm true Not bad. Still, those are easy to dismiss arguments. The only one that matters is: "why should I start?" The arguments "for" are, again, trivially dismissable.
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ExcessBLarg! posted:Isn't the compositor still responsible for providing decorations for Xwayland windows? In which case, I don't know that KWin's behavior is that weird. Yeah, because X apps expect the window manage to provide the frames. Wayland explicitly did the reverse, and then KDE hosed it up.
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pseudorandom name posted:Yeah, because X apps expect the window manage to provide the frames. Wayland explicitly did the reverse, and then KDE hosed it up. KDE is trying to right a historic wrong here, they are not to blame for anything as regards window decorations.
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I can understand that an application might want to draw its own title bar and buttons, and I can understand an option that means "actually I don't want any of that just draw my box", but why is it bad default behavior for the window manager to give you the title bar if you didn't specify anything else?
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It turns window resizing into a two-phase operation that results in cropped images (when shrinking) or solid color fills (when enlarging).
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Another handful of questions for u fine folks: Does anyone have experience with the unofficial discord clients? I know you can get banned using them, but the window flickers constantly, typing has a 500ms delay, and video streaming doesn’t work. Also plasma 6 looks a lot nicer than the previous iteration, but I think I’m done loving around with KDE and going back to gnome to pray that the sleep crash is fixed. Can I shove my steam library onto my NAS while it reinstalls, then just move them back to the correct folder? Or do the games care which DE you’re using or something Last one: I’m on Bazzite and the docs say to run a ujust command to register with secure boot, but running the command tells me the mobo doesn’t support it. Is secure boot necessary or advised for linux, and is there a way to manually add the signed key from BIOS/UEFI? Also, should I unplug the windows drive while doing this?
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Webcord works fine for me and as long as you fly under the radar you'll probably be fine. Obviously this goes out the window if someone gets a bee under their bonnet about you / webcord or what ever but chances are they probably won't care until you make them care. The offical discord app gave me grief too and this has solved everything except for my posts sucking there which apparently is unrelated to the app that I use to post with.
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drat, looks like it’s eol https://github.com/flathub/io.github.spacingbat3.webcord/commit/5440663a30bf500c0f9ec3149a4f298cf085d672
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:Another handful of questions for u fine folks: Funny enough, I'd been holding off on Linux for my spare laptop because it has two gpus but it sounded like bazzite could handle that with minimal effort. I just backed up windows and installed bazzite, it failed to boot with secure boot so I turned it off to get in. Their docs say it automatically detects if they support secure boot on your device. I am assuming mine is not supported. Dyscrasia fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Apr 27, 2024 |
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It’s so weird since the Win10 disk is secure boot, and it says that SB is turned on on the mobo, but Bazzite says it doesn’t fly. This computer is going to be an Ubuntu server next month when I order parts for a new gaming rig, so I’m assuming the new mobo will support it and then I can figure it out without being worried of accidentally’ing the windows disk
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:Another handful of questions for u fine folks: Vesktop/vencord
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I just run Discord in the browser on my Linux machines and it's fine. I don't game on them (for now) though, so I'm not missing the desktop integration stuff.
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:Is secure boot necessary or advised for linux, and is there a way to manually add the signed key from BIOS/UEFI? Also, should I unplug the windows drive while doing this? If you can get away without using Secure Boot it makes life with linux a shitton easier. The security advantages for a home user are not a huge deal. My take in another thread recently: Klyith posted:The type of attack it protects against is in the zone of sophisticated targeted attacks and advanced persistent threats. The bad guys compromise the earliest thing in the boot process and use that to compromise the OS in the most invisible way possible, so that they can keep a hidden foothold in somebody's network for years. FAT32 SHAMER posted:and is there a way to manually add the signed key from BIOS/UEFI? Yes. It's gonna be a bit different for every mobo maker's bios, but adding a custom key is a standard feature. This random webpage has the best step-by-step that I can easily see, but it'll likely be a bit different if you don't have an Asrock mobo. I have no idea where bazzite puts the relevant cert, pk, and db files. FAT32 SHAMER posted:Also, should I unplug the windows drive while doing this? Makes zero difference. Secure boot is on the BIOS, adding a key won't touch the drive. (Also turning off secure boot won't really affect windows. Even if you're using 11 secure boot is just required for install, not operation. The only thing that will be totally broken is riot's anti-cheat.)
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Klyith posted:If you can get away without using Secure Boot it makes life with linux a shitton easier. The security advantages for a home user are not a huge deal. My take in another thread recently: Ah great! Thanks for the explanation.
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I had to turn Secure Boot back on because my kids wanted me to play Valorant with them. Everything else works the same.
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Is there an equivalent of Windows' Add/Remove Programs in KDE Plasma/Arch? Discover only shows flatpaks, and I want to see a list of applications that were installed through the package manager.
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Tiny Timbs posted:Is there an equivalent of Windows' Add/Remove Programs in KDE Plasma? Discover only shows flatpaks, and I want to see a list of applications that were installed through the package manager. No. Not yet anyways. The integrations Discover has right now -- like being about to do updates to system packages on some distros -- are still pretty new. Flatpaks are easy since flatpaks are the same everywhere. So that's still up to whatever package manager your distro uses. If you're still using Ubuntu, the gui frontend for apt is Synaptic.
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Yeah I just found octopi for Arch so I'm going to give that a try. I don't really need a GUI manager going forward, I just chose to install KDE with all the applications and I need to go through a list and remove the ones I don't need.
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Mucking about with an Ubuntu 24.04 install on a laptop. I have a USB fingerprint reader that works perfectly on Windows but not Linux. I tried to install fingerprint libraries using various instructions but no joy. Thoughts?
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I was using a jelly comb keyboard/mouse set with my RasPi via bluetooth with Raspberry OS, so I figured it would be at least decently compatible with Debian 12. Guess not!  Edit: Nevermind. Looks like the Logitech MX Keys Mini set is exactly what I'm looking for. AlternateNu fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Apr 28, 2024 |
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AlternateNu posted:Edit: Nevermind. Looks like the Logitech MX Keys Mini set is exactly what I'm looking for.
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