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hot cocoa on the couch posted:calling trump hitler always reminds me of rightists here that call trudeau mao or stalin or a commie or whatever. as an actual socialist, when i hear trudeau called that, i scoff heartily. its just a bludgeon for the leftists to use i think. trump is nothing like hitler (aside from his odd charisma maybe) and jan 6 was nothing like bavaria in november 1923 i mean i get why people do it, partly because most people dont know poo poo about history because shits long and books are hard, but like trumps his own thing.
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Prettz posted:trump... telling the truth? I'm about to short circuit, I need a drink This will backfire when the gamers see it and come out hard for Trump.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:36 |
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Disco Pope posted:https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/apr/26/trump-kristi-noem-shot-dog-and-goat-book She says "cricket (her dog) was the picture of pure joy...I HATED HIM" That's conservatives for ya, "you're happy I want you dead".
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:36 |
Dapper_Swindler posted:i mean i get why people do it, partly because most people dont know poo poo about history because shits long and books are hard, but like trumps his own thing. But also after however many years of people shouting BUSH = HITLER it's all gotten very boy-who-cried-wolf.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:37 |
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Data Graham posted:But also after however many years of people shouting BUSH = HITLER it's all gotten very boy-who-cried-wolf. that too,
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:39 |
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Data Graham posted:But also after however many years of people shouting BUSH = HITLER it's all gotten very boy-who-cried-wolf. I think soup nazi and nazi becoming a synonym for gatekeeper did more to erode the sting of calling someone Hitler or Nazi than anything like that.
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:She says "cricket (her dog) was the picture of pure joy...I HATED HIM" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqGKZ3fzN1M again this song fits them to a T I am drowning There is no sign of land You are coming down with me Hand in unlovable hand And I hope you die I hope we both die
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:40 |
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:calling trump hitler always reminds me of rightists here that call trudeau mao or stalin or a commie or whatever. as an actual socialist, when i hear trudeau called that, i scoff heartily. its just a bludgeon for the leftists to use i think. trump is nothing like hitler (aside from his odd charisma maybe) and jan 6 was nothing like bavaria in november 1923 You'd be surprised on how similar they are. I agree with you that "literally hitler" is overused - but drawing on the many similarities between Hitler and Trump is pretty apt and overdue. It's an 80 year difference and two different political systems that obviously makes it different. But personality-wise they are eerily similar. Hopefully the US is more resistant to fascism than the Weimar republic - but I were more sure of that january 21st 2021 than I am today edit: Anders fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Apr 26, 2024 |
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Wow! The case has fallen apart! ... Well then why does it keep going? Must be because it's a KANGAROO COURT! BANANA REPUBLIC! WITCH HUNT! Maddening how apparently easy it is to keep up this charade as long as you have an entire half of the nationwide news just dedicated to upholding it for its viewers who will never see any other source of truth
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:40 |
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loving insanequote:
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:43 |
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Donald J Trump has not died, he's alive, and is in fact, thriving!
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:44 |
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:loving insane yeah so vague bullshit that will be abused by psychos. goodbye ruby bridges.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:45 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqGKZ3fzN1M I've been playing that recently, but I always saw it more about the abject self-loathing that creeps in when you're too much of a coward to end a relationship that you're miserable in. But yeah, conservatives are absolutely consumed with loathing and bitterness.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:The Weimar Republic reacted more strongly to the Beer Hall Putsch than we did to Jan 6. Hitler was in jail within days. I see this presented in various forms a lot, a "We treated Hitler worse than we treat Trump, and Trump and his people seem a lot like the Nazis, so what does that say for our future because the soft treatment of Hitler resulted in Nazi Germany?" And I again remind you. When the Beer Hall Pusch happened, Germany was locked in the Great Depression and taking it even worse because of all the World War I reparations, the main way of communicating information was newpapers, telegraphs, sending letters, and a limited access to telephones. The Nazi ability to organize and react was much, much lower than what is available today: Hitler and co basically literally 'posted through it' and kept building their base, whether by accident or not. If anything serious happens to Trump, then everyone involved is going to be open to harassment by thousands of people, possibly for years. Even if it never goes beyond that, like I said, I really feel the reason that people are so hands off on punishing Trump is they just don't want to deal with the hassle of legions of morons bothering them every hour of every day. I suspect that if most of the critics in the thread were placed in the positions where they could punish Trump, they'd draw the same conclusion. You're basically volunteering to have a literal monkey on your back for who knows how long. That sort of thing requires an exceptional human...and in this case it means it requires a large group of them all scattered across the system, where everyone who goes "I just don't want to deal with it" slows the process down more and more, and oh look, most people are inclined for one reason or another to be in the "I just don't want to deal with it" group. On the plus side, when the Nazis were rising to power, you didn't have the same massive communication apparatus having tons of people going THIS IS JUST LIKE WHEN...I don't know, the French Revolution/Reign of Terror happened and yelling warnings over it. Yeah, history repeats, but not beat for beat and line for line. Sometimes the small details make all the difference. pixaal posted:I think soup nazi and nazi becoming a synonym for gatekeeper did more to erode the sting of calling someone Hitler or Nazi than anything like that. Also this. The Nazis were just SO PERFECT in being an incarnation of stark, banal evil and committed horrors that it was just too easy to assign anything anyone considered bad to be akin to the Nazis. And then go further. And further. I really think the reason that Nazism might be making a serious comeback is that beating the concept of 'Everything I don't like is Nazism' was beaten into the ground so drat hard that between it and the constantly growing divide of years and all the people involved in the actual events dying off, it robbed the concept of all its power. People stopped taking it seriously. Quite literally, :weforgot: Cornwind Evil fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Apr 26, 2024 |
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:loving insane LOL the dumbest of states
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:47 |
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:calling trump hitler always reminds me of rightists here that call trudeau mao or stalin or a commie or whatever. as an actual socialist, when i hear trudeau called that, i scoff heartily. its just a bludgeon for the leftists to use i think. trump is nothing like hitler (aside from his odd charisma maybe) and jan 6 was nothing like bavaria in november 1923 I completely agree with this. Hitler had an idea of what he wanted beyond just enriching himself. I don't think Trump really has enough of an ideology beyond what he sees on rightwing grift TV to orchestrate something like the third reich. Dude couldn't even put together infrastructure week.. The other part is that lumping him in with hitler denies just how preposterous and comical Trumps constant outburts are.
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Data Graham posted:But also after however many years of people shouting BUSH = HITLER it's all gotten very boy-who-cried-wolf.
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Disco Pope posted:I've been playing that recently, but I always saw it more about the abject self-loathing that creeps in when you're too much of a coward to end a relationship that you're miserable in. But yeah, conservatives are absolutely consumed with loathing and bitterness. oh its aboslutly about a dying relationship that wont die. but yeah i always see it about the chud brains too. death of the artist or whatever.
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Disco Pope posted:https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/apr/26/trump-kristi-noem-shot-dog-and-goat-book loving horrendous. And yet, it's not the first time I've heard/read about putting down a dog that isn't learning hunting commands and behavior. My boss mentioned his father having done it when he was a kid and out on a hunt with him where the dog spooked whatever it was they were going after for the nth time. Dog came trotting back pleased with itself, boss' dad shot the dog dead. The matter-of-fact delivery he gave was just barely covering up what a horrible memory that had clearly been for him. This is not justification at all, gently caress Kristi Noem. It's just that reading the story drove home that there's a segment of the population that doesn't think twice about that poo poo and it utterly confounds and angers me. Dogs are amazing and we don't deserve them.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:49 |
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Are.. Are you guys posting "say what you like about national socialism but at least it's an ethos" but seriously?
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:52 |
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ElectricSheep posted:loving horrendous. And yet, it's not the first time I've heard/read about putting down a dog that isn't learning hunting commands and behavior. like my view is if your rasing/breeding hunting dogs and they dont have the personality for it. just sell them or adopt them out, its what loving cops do to police dogs that dont pass cop poo poo. same with thearpy dogs.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:52 |
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Trump is much more like Mussolini, but also he's not very much like either of those guys
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I worked at a farm that provided equine assisted therapy, all on the ground and no riding. 13 horses, the overwhelming majority were rescued from situations where they weren't performing up to the human's standards. Every one of them was amazing when they were allowed to be themselves, once they found their herd. That dog could have find another home. gently caress Noem forever.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Trump is much more like Mussolini, but also he's not very much like either of those guys He's a lazy man's Hitler/Mussolini. He is very much in the same vein as either of those guys, but he expects everyone else to do the work to create his Reich.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:53 |
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Prettz posted:You're gonna blame people from two decades ago for confusing the crypto-fascists with the fascists? What's the point? Everyone who mattered correctly pointed out at the time that they were crypto-fascists. And they were paving the way. Wannabe-Hitler enabled the rise of Stupid-Hitler. And really why do we need to split hairs. They're far-right ethnonationalist authoritarians with a penchant for violence (yeah, yeah, that's just several ways of saying the same thing). Trump isn't specifically a nazi because he likes red instead of brown and was born in Queens instead of Austria? Who gives a poo poo, they are putting the same ideology into power.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqGKZ3fzN1M I guess it would make sense for the Alpha Couple to be Trump supporters but they're also way too unstable to ever actually vote.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:54 |
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DJT over $40 again lol
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:55 |
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Disco Pope posted:This will backfire when the gamers see it and come out hard for Trump. Gamers watching the NFL draft?
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 13:55 |
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Vampire Panties posted:what the gently caress is with chud psychopaths killing/torturing dogs dogs are pretty much designed to elicit empathy and sympathy. so, naturally chuds just treat them like disposable robots.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqGKZ3fzN1M I love the Mountain Goats so fuckin much.
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Prettz posted:You're gonna blame people from two decades ago for confusing the crypto-fascists with the fascists? What's the point? Everyone who mattered correctly pointed out at the time that they were crypto-fascists. And they were paving the way. Wannabe-Hitler enabled the rise of Stupid-Hitler. That's true, and I know it does no good to instead be like "BUSH = a dangerous first step down a slippery slope at the end of which lies" because come on, the whole point of a slogan is to get attention and stick in the mind. It's just that it leaves us without any kind of vocabulary to talk about what kind of existential threat Trump actually is. With Reagan you could paint pictures of mushroom clouds. With Bush if you were judicious you could try to establish the idea of the mercantilist global oil empire which kind of worked. Trump? Someone asks what the big deal with Trump is, why we hate him so much? I don't even know where to start. I always feel like "AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES..." etc LOOK WHAT HE IS DOING WHY CAN YOU NOT SEE THIS
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kazil posted:DJT over $40 again lol Lmao rip to the guy who sold at 26 ahahah
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Dapper_Swindler posted:oh its aboslutly about a dying relationship that wont die. but yeah i always see it about the chud brains too. death of the artist or whatever. Absolutely, I think I like that song partially because it reminds me of when I was self-loathing, passive-aggressive coward but I rankled at the idea of being a chud. Nocheez posted:Gamers watching the NFL draft? I wasn't being serious, but its on the Internet. You can see it anywhere.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 14:00 |
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:loving insane Don't.gently caress.with.libraries! Seriously I can't understand why they hate libraries. They provide services that help everyone and are one of the best places in our society.
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loving Moron posted:Don't.gently caress.with.libraries! Yeah I think you nailed it
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 14:03 |
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Funky See Funky Do posted:Are.. Are you guys posting "say what you like about national socialism but at least it's an ethos" but seriously? There is an actual argument over "What's worse, someone who truly believes in their poo poo and does horrible things with the comfort of their conscience, or someone who believes in nothing save power and cruelty and will do anything to get it?" (There probably isn't an answer, at least not in a 2+2 = 4 sense)
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kazil posted:DJT over $40 again lol Firing up the options account again, I guess
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 14:07 |
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For Trump/Hitler comparisons I'm reminded of this excerpt from Todd Phillips' book Humans:Humans posted:Look, I know what you're thinking. Putting Hitler in a book about the terrible mistakes we've made as a species isn't exactly the boldest move ever. "Oh wow, never heard of him, what a fascinating historical nugget" is something you're probably not saying right now. Sorry, longer than I remembered.
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Data Graham posted:That's true, and I know it does no good to instead be like "BUSH = a dangerous first step down a slippery slope at the end of which lies" because come on, the whole point of a slogan is to get attention and stick in the mind. Pump a toddler full of Red Bull and give him the keys to the liquor and gun cabinets and then fall asleep.
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madmatt112 posted:Firing up the options account again, I guess lol yep
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