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Nehru the Damaja posted:You're in charge. Do you ever pull the plug on the Timeless Toni Storm gimmick or let it run her whole career? Maybe a John Cena thing where he was no longer the Doctor of Thuganomics but retained elements of it in his later character? You keep it until it stops being over and well-liked.
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Defenestrategy posted:For those that watch GCW more than a week a year, is there a reason why Jimmy Lloyd is Matt Cardona's lacky? Like I get Steph De Lander, but what happened to Jimmy? He lost a match with the stip being that he had to become Cardona’s broski
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edogawa rando posted:Why is the choice an immediate cold turkey termination of the gimmick, or carrying it her entire career? I reject the very premise of your question. They’re gonna bring Kevin Dunn in for all the Godard jump cuts.
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Toni Storm as Klaus Kinski
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Toni Storm owns but it's obviously too gimmicky to last forever, so yeah it'll be interesting to see how she keeps it fresh until it's time to put it down.
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CommonShore posted:Toni Storm as Klaus Kinski Tbh her promos aren’t terribly far off from this 
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Very very excited for Toni's Quentin Dupieux phase (She's already been dialing down the gimmick and making it a fuller personality and it's lead to some very good matches; I'm sure it'll be fine as she goes. She's doing well as the over-the-top delusional sort with a dash of amusing old school wrestling and film references)
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She’s going to have the first cinematic wrestling match that qualifies under the Dogme 95 vow of Chasity
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edogawa rando posted:Timeless Toni Storm moves from the 1940s black and white aesthetic, to 1960s~70s New Wave cinema aesthetic, starting with a deconstructivist approach similar to Godard when he did À bout de souffle or Une femme est une femme, or Easy Rider, something like that, until she reaches the modern day. This all leads to an albino Juice Robinson fighting a magical construct of Juice Robinson as they discuss the Ship of Theseus.
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Gavok posted:This all leads to an albino Juice Robinson fighting a magical construct of Juice Robinson as they discuss the Ship of Theseus. Also known as “your typical Tuesday morning for Juice Robinson”
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haunted bong posted:Also known as “your typical Tuesday morning for Juice Robinson” The one thing I want most from the world is a Juice Robinson/Toni Storm reality show.
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I have a vivid memory of seeing (maybe) Big Kev mimicking pouring a drink while having someone waiting to take a jackknife. Am i crazy or did Kev or Scott also mimic doing coke lines as well?
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TheCool69 posted:I have a vivid memory of seeing (maybe) Big Kev mimicking pouring a drink while having someone waiting to take a jackknife. you might be thinking of him faking smoking a cigar and putting it out on someone's back?
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TheCool69 posted:I have a vivid memory of seeing (maybe) Big Kev mimicking pouring a drink while having someone waiting to take a jackknife. Smoking a joint and stubbing it out on whomever is waiting for the powerbomb. I remember asking about it before, and recently I swear I’ve seen Thunder Rosa do that quickly in the lead to her new-ish finisher Tijuana Bomb as well.
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thank you for putting that together for me, Rosa's indeed done that taunt in that situation before but I had no idea what she was miming
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That made me think... what is the most out of pocket taunt like that... For me it must be Road Dogg loving your rear end before his pumphandle... i wonder how many times he got away with it before somebody slapped him for the disrespect
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He was prospecting for gold.
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I mean, would you rather get dry humped before a pumphandle slam, or take the Stinkface or Bronco Buster or some other move which is itself a gross taunt. "Spitting food in people's faces" was a guy's gimmick for years.
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To be fair, those people didn't want to be cool.
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TheCool69 posted:That made me think... what is the most out of pocket taunt like that... The few months where every time the Acclaimed won max caster would walk over and make out with the opponents hand. Pope Corky the IX posted:To be fair, those people didn't want to be cool. Carlito did have a moral obligation to do it.o7
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Pope Corky the IX posted:He was prospecting for gold. Jesus, he's turning into Stinky Pete.
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TheCool69 posted:That made me think... what is the most out of pocket taunt like that... When Steve Corino started using the oil check.
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How did Daniel Bryan transfer from weird AJ Lee marrying heel to the Yes Movement Bryan in 2013? I remember world champion Cena just naming Bryan as the #1 contender for SummerSlam and Bryan was massively over as a face.
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Kosmo Gallion posted:How did Daniel Bryan transfer from weird AJ Lee marrying heel to the Yes Movement Bryan in 2013? Started roughly around the time he lost to Sheamus in 6 seconds at Wrestlemania
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Kosmo Gallion posted:How did Daniel Bryan transfer from weird AJ Lee marrying heel to the Yes Movement Bryan in 2013? Also, he started 2013 as a really good wrestler with a fun chant associated with him in an enjoyable comedy tag team. Even without the whole anti-corporate narrative, he would have turned face at some point. He's too good at this to not.
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The anger management skits and teaming with Kane turned him from angry heel to wacky heel. Feuding with The Shield then turned them face. He was then firm upper midcard and popular with the fans before Cena picked him for Summerslam.
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Kosmo Gallion posted:How did Daniel Bryan transfer from weird AJ Lee marrying heel to the Yes Movement Bryan in 2013? bryan started getting over with the Yes chant as a heel when he was with AJ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quyJz2surs4 after he lost to sheamus in 18 seconds at Wrestlemania 2012 there was massive fan backlash that indirectly led to Bryan being the company's most over babyface when he was teaming with Kane and turned babyface proper when he and Kane took anger management classes and started feuding with The Shield. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsSkEWHVSug Danielson would wind up getting more over the more the company tried to move him out of the title picture after trying to have Randy Orton beat him for the world title for HEEEAAAAAAT and with CM Punk having already left and fans hijacking shows with CM Punk chants, the last thing they wanted to do was have a Wrestlemania main event where the crowd would poo poo all over it, so they pivoted and put the rocket all the way behind Bryan for the start of 2014.
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Some things of note with that whole transition: - While Team Hell No were a hugely successful tag team, they were still mostly a comedy act until the Shield feud. Bryan started becoming more serious after one of their initial losses, screaming passionately in a promo that he was not the weak link. This was at times played for laughs, but it gave him a more intense edge that helped him get over more by proving himself, especially since he led Kane and Orton towards the Shield's first loss. - Vince genuinely underestimated how over Bryan was at the time. He accepted him as an upper-card act, but nothing more. He told Cena that they were going to do Cena vs. Bryan at Money in the Bank 2013. Cena was taken aback by that, claiming that Cena vs. Bryan was absolutely the biggest possible match they had on their roster and shouldn't be used for such a throwaway show. Vince took that criticism to heart and saved it for SummerSlam, instead giving us Cena vs. Mark Henry at Money in the Bank. - The original plan was for Cena to go over at SummerSlam with a post-match angle where Triple H turned on him and helped Orton cash in his Money in the Bank briefcase. Going into the match, Cena had a nasty growth on his elbow and really needed to have it taken care of. Hence, Cena lost to Bryan and Bryan was inserted into that spot. Only now do I realize that a year later, we would get the opposite, as Cena was plugged into Bryan's planned match against Brock Lesnar.
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And for the better. The one sided match Brock had with Cena was supposed to be against Danielson and it wouldn't have gone over nearly as well. The reason the Brock/Cena match was so great was because it was happening to Cena. Danielson would later have a legit match against Brock and unsurprisingly it was really good.
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Sometimes I wonder if Vince goes to bed at night crying and furiously punching his pillow over all the horrible assholes desperately trying to give him money. Just thinking about his net worth going up with every DBD t-shirt sold and so angry about it.
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Halloween Jack posted:Sometimes I wonder if Vince goes to bed at night crying and furiously punching his pillow over all the horrible assholes desperately trying to give him money. Just thinking about his net worth going up with every DBD t-shirt sold and so angry about it. Vince is such a control freak (on top of everything else, of course) that he doesn't allow himself to sneeze so I'm sure he wants all that money to come to him 'his way.' He didn't want Bryan to be a star and how dare he become one on his own, etc.
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Dawgstar posted:Vince is such a control freak (on top of everything else, of course) that he doesn't allow himself to sneeze so I'm sure he wants all that money to come to him 'his way.' He didn't want Bryan to be a star and how dare he become one on his own, etc. I like how AEW seems to be running counter to that. Acclaimed get massively over against Swerve/Lee and get hot shotted the titles immediately, Swerve gets massively over vs Hanger and gets the rocket strapped to him, I don't think there's an instance where AEW has pushed an act that most of the crowd shitted on for longer than a month without there being massively extenuating circumstances such as Tony Storms first run and Saraya.
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And it remains impressive to me that Swerve went from my least-liked person in that big tag feud with the Acclaimed to the world champion in a year and a half And that blowoff match with Keith Lee could be a lot more interesting now too!
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Dr. Quarex posted:And it remains impressive to me that Swerve went from my least-liked person in that big tag feud with the Acclaimed to the world champion in a year and a half especially since he'll have to break into Keith's house to have it
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Halloween Jack posted:Sometimes I wonder if Vince goes to bed at night crying and furiously punching his pillow over all the horrible assholes desperately trying to give him money. Just thinking about his net worth going up with every DBD t-shirt sold and so angry about it. A huge part of the fervour was fans believing that Indie Darling Bryan Danielson was being held down in the WWE, and that no matter how much they cheered his character, Vince simply wouldn't allow him to become the #1 guy. This bled heavily into the onscreen angle, with him winning the belt, and then HHH immediately nullifying the win, and cutting a promo along the lines of "Hahaha, you thought we'd give the WWE Championship to indie wrestler Bryan Danielson? We only give the belt to Lifelong WWE Guys". They had heels intentionally stoke the flames, and play into the idea that Danielson was good enough to win the belt, but was being being held down by politics. It was a super weird time. It sold a lot of T-Shirts. I don't think they'd have as much money if they'd just given him the belt, instead of having him chase the belt, while making themselves look like assholes for not letting him win it.
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Is there a concise, exemplary, standard wrestling match to show to a non-fan in order to demonstrate to them the gist of this poo poo?
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Orange Cassidy vs PAC
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Jericho vs Shibata from last weeks dynamite. Comedy, wrestling, hardcore spots, doesnt go too long.
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