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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I think fundamentally they don't really seem to like things for what they are, they like them as signifiers of their heroic struggle against The Wokes or whatever and if they can't think of it that way it's not as interesting.

I am furiously cranking my hog to the lady with the big boobs off the television because that's my duty as a proud american patriot, any minute now there's going to be a woke KGB commando bursting through my window to put my dick and balls in a cage and I simply can not achieve orgasm unless I think about that possibility.

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Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

OwlFancier posted:

I think fundamentally they don't really seem to like things for what they are, they like them as signifiers of their heroic struggle against The Wokes or whatever and if they can't think of it that way it's not as interesting.

Ingroup/outgroup tribal signifiers are definitely part of it. That's also how they can descend into really contradictory takes. They want to seem like plucky rebels but are huge conformists and want everyone to wear their allegiances on their sleeves.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Panfilo posted:

There were people critical of Helldivers 2/Starship Troopers/Warhammer 40k fascist aspects but still enjoyed the product . I think this really confused reactionaries- they weren't expecting the sjws to like both the thing they like AND like the thing they hate.

This also happened when the Hades 2 playtest started and its (fairly gay) fanbase started going wild over its Aphrodite design. You could basically hear the gears screeching to a halt in reactionaries' heads as they tried to reconcile that with their belief that "the left" hates pretty women. :allears:

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Ah yes the LGBT leftoids famously do not want to sleep with, dress like, or be beautiful women.

Leon Sumbitches
Mar 27, 2010

Dr. Leon Adoso Sumbitches (prounounced soom-'beh-cheh) (born January 21, 1935) is heir to the legendary Adoso family oil fortune.





Panfilo posted:

I'm also reminded of something else-right wing rhetoric always needs some nemesis in either direction. If there's something they loathe they fixate on some enemy who obviously loves that thing. If there's something they find enjoyable they need to find an enemy that hates it and wants to take it away.

Most normies looking at an anime vidya game lady climbing boobily up a ladder will just chuckle and roll their eyes. They're not going to scream and slap the disk out of the gamers hands. But to reactionaries, mild criticism is all it takes to galvanize them and make it into a huge deal. This causes them to then arbitrarily pick sides in everything.

There were people critical of Helldivers 2/Starship Troopers/Warhammer 40k fascist aspects but still enjoyed the product . I think this really confused reactionaries- they weren't expecting the sjws to like both the thing they like AND like the thing they hate.

The whole controversy is dumb, but I see aspects of it get extended towards other social boogeymen, like race. Whiteness, for example, gets centered and saturated so much it no longer appears distinct vs elevating nonwhite art/religion/culture/etc to be a bit more visible. When people talk about how much better seasoned food tastes, reactionaries have to attack it. Their own culture can't just stand on its own they need to pull down other culture to elevate their own. I remember a very boomer-y Op Ed a lady wrote about how unpatriotic it was for Millennials to not like mayo or something. But again, what really fries these idiots tiny brains is the notion that people could like multiple things. Someone could like a plain boiled hot dog and a meticulously prepared curry dish. Someone could like a rare steak yet also enjoy a vegan meal.

Part of the way they project this all-or-nothing attitude is to argue that it is in fact the left that is very arbitrarily intolerant of differing viewpoint. Wokeness gets seen as this broad cult belief that cannot accommodate nuance or any kind of middle ground. Somehow the people who will dismiss you for "pronouns in bio, opinion discarded" and joke about deporting communists think themselves the Pragmatic, open minded side of politics.

MY SON JAKE, who’s 25, eats mayo. He’s a practical young man who works in computers and adores macaroni salad. He’s a good son. I also have a daughter. She was a women’s and gender studies major in college. Naturally, she loathes mayonnaise. And she’s not alone. Ask the young people you know their opinion of mayo, and you’ll be shocked by the depths of their emotion. Oh, there’s the occasional outlier, like Jake. But for the most part, today’s youth would sooner get their news from an actual paper newspaper than ingest mayonnaise.

Equeen
Oct 29, 2011

Pole dance~

Perestroika posted:

This also happened when the Hades 2 playtest started and its (fairly gay) fanbase started going wild over its Aphrodite design. You could basically hear the gears screeching to a halt in reactionaries' heads as they tried to reconcile that with their belief that "the left" hates pretty women. :allears:

They don’t understand that halfway decent character design (from both Eastern and Western perspectives) can make a literal naked woman feel less sleazy than their Stellar Blade waifu.

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 9 hours!

OwlFancier posted:

Ah yes the LGBT leftoids famously do not want to sleep with, dress like, or be beautiful women.

That is how they interpreted the push to have more diverse and less sexualized portrayals of women in media, yes.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

OwlFancier posted:

Ah yes the LGBT leftoids famously do not want to sleep with, dress like, or be beautiful women.

most particularly if they have large breasts, or a big butt, or *hushed tone* both of those together :ohdear:

emSparkly
Nov 21, 2022

I'm open to interpretation!

OwlFancier posted:

Ah yes the LGBT leftoids famously do not want to sleep with, dress like, or be beautiful women.

I settled for being and dressing like an average looking woman.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
Also the infamous "vagina bones" tweet refers to a scene from Tokyo Mirage Sessions, which had some fairly major changes to its Western release that of course had all the usual suspects up in arms.

The detail that doesn't come up is that Atlus liked the localization so much that when they did their usual final edition rerelease of the game, they backported all of those changes to the Japanese version. Turns out the author didn't think any part of their vision was marred by not having vagina bones.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

Also the infamous "vagina bones" tweet refers to a scene from Tokyo Mirage Sessions, which had some fairly major changes to its Western release that of course had all the usual suspects up in arms.

The detail that doesn't come up is that Atlus liked the localization so much that when they did their usual final edition rerelease of the game, they backported all of those changes to the Japanese version. Turns out the author didn't think any part of their vision was marred by not having vagina bones.

Would have been funny if it were a case of "Wait, why DID I draw that, that was such a weird and unnecessary thing to add...", like the old joke that porn artists can only draw one fluid so every other liquid they draw ends up looking like cum.

Prism
Dec 22, 2007

yospos

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

Also the infamous "vagina bones" tweet refers to a scene from Tokyo Mirage Sessions, which had some fairly major changes to its Western release that of course had all the usual suspects up in arms.

The detail that doesn't come up is that Atlus liked the localization so much that when they did their usual final edition rerelease of the game, they backported all of those changes to the Japanese version. Turns out the author didn't think any part of their vision was marred by not having vagina bones.

Which is a shame because one of the edits looks really bad.

Not the vagina bones one though. The white dress.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Rockman Reserve posted:

yeah tokin you should maybe re-examine your thoughts on water because your talking points are literally coming from the billionaires using all the water on this

you sound like an old angry person from literally any generation through history

Tik tok blows dude

Like there’s some really good stuff on there but a lot of it is boring dancing, lip synchs and just weird ends where people point in the air with some text above them

It’s not creative!!! It’s just brain rot poo poo.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
https://twitter.com/NoisesWhyte/status/1784103403796230170?t=jlaCmEC4UiPz9m84LRZ-cQ&s=19

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

CelticPredator posted:

Tik tok blows dude

Like there’s some really good stuff on there but a lot of it is boring dancing, lip synchs and just weird ends where people point in the air with some text above them

It’s not creative!!! It’s just brain rot poo poo.

This is every social media full of trends you aren't a part of. You're just old.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Yngwie Mangosteen posted:

This is every social media full of trends you aren't a part of. You're just old.

I’m only 32 lol. it’s not good! Compared to vine it’s weak poo poo.

Be more creative than sitting on your bed pointing going “me fr rn ong”

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Also Instagram, and every other social media sucks poo poo too and should be killed.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

One of the benefits of vine being dead is that nobody remembers the bad vines, only the good vines.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

Prism posted:

Which is a shame because one of the edits looks really bad.

Not the vagina bones one though. The white dress.

Yeah, the white dress edit was bad, but they also added the kickin streetwear set, so it's a net gain.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Oh I remember the bad ones.

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.
I you see someone post enough you can easily ID their normal style, or "fist" and figure out when they're going off-script.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegraph_key#Operators%27_%22fist%22

EDIT: may not apply to neurotypicals

The Wicked ZOGA
Jan 27, 2022


That would be funny, as in it would make my dick feel funny, as in I would like to jerk off to it.

who the hell is actually liking the post. let's hope they're bots

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

CelticPredator posted:

I’m only 32 lol. it’s not good! Compared to vine it’s weak poo poo.

Be more creative than sitting on your bed pointing going “me fr rn ong”

In internet years that's basically approaching retirement. The culture has moved on and the youths are doing their own thing

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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I don’t think we should be defending tik tok or any social media

emSparkly
Nov 21, 2022

I'm open to interpretation!

Dude forgot he wasn’t on the gainer subreddit.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

The dialectical struggle of history has always, essentially, been a question of how to apply justice to matter. Take away matter and what remains is justice.
I'm 28 and I have already prepared my cultural death poem. Once you leave college it's all downhill, going off my father im fated to watch network television exclusively by the time I hit my mid-thirties

Anyway I settled for being an ugly woman, not because I'm trans but because there's only so much you can polish a turd.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

tokin opposition posted:

I'm 28 and I have already prepared my cultural death poem. Once you leave college it's all downhill, going off my father im fated to watch network television exclusively by the time I hit my mid-thirties

Anyway I settled for being an ugly woman, not because I'm trans but because there's only so much you can polish a turd.

I got around that by eating diamonds. Now my turds are still ugly but they are valuable as gently caress.

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?
You guys are going to be quite disappointed but Elon has announced that he's reviving Vine.

He'll forget about it soon enough though

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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...! posted:

You guys are going to be quite disappointed but Elon has announced that he's reviving Vine.

He'll forget about it soon enough though

we’ll see but I do think what was good about vine was it was 7 seconds and very tedious to use which lended itself to creativity

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

tokin opposition posted:

I'm 28 and I have already prepared my cultural death poem. Once you leave college it's all downhill, going off my father im fated to watch network television exclusively by the time I hit my mid-thirties

Anyway I settled for being an ugly woman, not because I'm trans but because there's only so much you can polish a turd.

My grandfather watched pro wrestling, nascar, and Lifetime movies. Sometimes he would blast polka or big band. I aspire to that freedom and more. No shame in expanding your media. The whole point is to be better than your father, right?

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?

CelticPredator posted:

we’ll see but I do think what was good about vine was it was 7 seconds and very tedious to use which lended itself to creativity

You've seen what he did to the Twitter character limit, there's no way Elon's Vine would have any sort of length limit

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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And it’s gonna be super racist and lame.

Also Instagram reels comments are the most racist poo poo I’ve ever seen openly on a wide internet site

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

All posters are beautiful posters IMO.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

Equeen posted:

They don’t understand that halfway decent character design (from both Eastern and Western perspectives) can make a literal naked woman feel less sleazy than their Stellar Blade waifu.

Their gotcha to this discourse is that Eve had an actual living breathing woman body scanned for her character design. This let's them call other people 'misogynist' for suggesting real life women don't have bodies like this. So by condemning Eves character design detractors condemn real life women in the process, apparently :psyduck: of course when you point out other scanned women in (western) games they'll claim the devs went out of their way to make those women as manly and unattractive as possible (Abby from TLoU2, Aloy, Mary Jane from that spider man game they hated, etc)

Leon Sumbitches posted:

MY SON JAKE, who’s 25, eats mayo. He’s a practical young man who works in computers and adores macaroni salad. He’s a good son. I also have a daughter. She was a women’s and gender studies major in college. Naturally, she loathes mayonnaise. And she’s not alone. Ask the young people you know their opinion of mayo, and you’ll be shocked by the depths of their emotion. Oh, there’s the occasional outlier, like Jake. But for the most part, today’s youth would sooner get their news from an actual paper newspaper than ingest mayonnaise.

Lol yeah that's the article I remember.

Perestroika posted:

This also happened when the Hades 2 playtest started and its (fairly gay) fanbase started going wild over its Aphrodite design. You could basically hear the gears screeching to a halt in reactionaries' heads as they tried to reconcile that with their belief that "the left" hates pretty women. :allears:
Their cope is simply that the left are hypocrites. Leftists allegedly will thirst for woke approved content and condemn non woke stuff. If they liked the aphrodite imagery then obviously they find horny images attractive, thus they must be liars for hating other things.

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

A fancy little mouse🐁!

OwlFancier posted:

All posters are beautiful posters IMO.

Turn on your monitor

Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under


CelticPredator posted:

I don’t think we should be defending tik tok or any social media

They must be doing something good if the US government is trying to ban it.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Fister Roboto posted:

they covered up her vagina bones :argh:

https://twitter.com/Nanex99/status/1783856517466230800

(not the idiot obviously)

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Hihohe posted:

They must be doing something good if the US government is trying to ban it.

incorrect

Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under



whatever you say, Greg Abbott

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Yorkshire Pudding
Nov 24, 2006



Tik Tok sucks compared to vine in the same way new Twitter (even outside of all the musk poo poo) sucks compared to old twitter. Limiting the video to 7 seconds or a tweet to 140 characters forced a unique kind of content. Watching a 2:45 tik tok is no different from a random YouTube video, and “tweet 1/6” should just be a blog post.

Also, the “react” meta of modern social media is garbage. The whole ecosystem is just one of the few actual “content creators” making something that gets 500k views, and then 20 different big names “reacting” to it for a cumulative 50 million views. Or 30 different channels reacting to a video of a weird girl at chik-fil-a or whatever.

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