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I wasn't convinced until I heard Earth Song. I always wondered how they got that huge bass sound. Rightio, Octave and Envelope filter are on the list. The MXR pedals of each seem pretty killer (especially for the price). Anything else I should consider?
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I have always thought an octave/fuzz octave would suit what I want but those videos did not sell me on the idea. I've got a Behringer Ultrabass amp (it was free and its my backup amp shhhhh) that has a built in octave down with a blend. once that amp is repaired and I can play around with it I might find a use for octave down. my board, in order: - Caroline effects Cannonball fuzz vintage king - Morley Mark Tremonti Wah - Bass Muff Pi Nano - VT Bass Deluxe - Polytune 3 nano (straight into the preamp stage on my Orange terror bass with no EQ) VT Bass deluxe was on facebook at a stupid price so I grabbed it to replace my OG VT Bass. I have 3 basses and 2 bands, so each bass has its own preset for each band. its a very big pedal and takes up a lot of space for an always on pedal though. The DI is useful and makes my pedal board a flight rig, although theres some odd design/interface choices such as the FX loop engaging with a double click of the same button that changes between preset bank A or B that make a lot of its features a bit annoying to use. Honestly might go back to the OG VT Bass instead and save this for studio time. the Morley wah is switchless so its great. it is too big though and I want to replace it with one of the new, smaller 20/20 wahs. I dont like Mark Tremonti, but my brother does (I am also a Metallica/Burton tragic so he gave me this when he upgraded. a free Morley is a free Morley.) Cannonball is always on for my doom band. Sounds like ripped speaker cones. the Havoc button means I can make disgusting feedback as chords/notes decay. Another brotherly gift. heres what the Havoc switch does https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XiS3fZ3V0Q&t=239s I use the Bass Muff Pi Nano for my 70s rock band as its a bit less angry than the Cannonball and I have it set up as a bit of a boost for when the guitarist is soloing to thicken up the overall sound. I've got about 15 other pedals that arent on there. 80% of them are fuzz. I should've just got an MXR Brown Acid like my buddy and called it a day. that is a drat good bass fuzz.
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Apr 22, 2024 04:33
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Laserface posted:I have always thought an octave/fuzz octave would suit what I want but those videos did not sell me on the idea. I've got a Behringer Ultrabass amp (it was free and its my backup amp shhhhh) that has a built in octave down with a blend. once that amp is repaired and I can play around with it I might find a use for octave down. Why is your tuner at the end of the chain though?
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Apr 22, 2024 09:14
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Mute switch just in case something wigs out and starts making noise. I've never had a problem getting in tune but I have had problems with unwanted noise from standing on cables and breaking them or accidentally diming a level knob when kicking a pedal on. The cannonball also needs to be first as its havoc button doesn't interact with the knobs on the guitar if there's a buffer in between the guitar and the pedal.
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Discussion Quorum posted:Thanks. I think I have settled on the Rumble 200. Me shopping for anything of consequence: https://youtu.be/P2RySXRfnWw?si=Yy9iadC1Gj99V80d 
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H13 posted:Envelope filter is on the list... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWrPWi1Qtrs or the tl;dr version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCekyZLAZUc H13 posted:I wasn't convinced until I heard Earth Song. I always wondered how they got that huge bass sound.
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Discussion Quorum posted:Me shopping for anything of consequence: https://youtu.be/P2RySXRfnWw?si=Yy9iadC1Gj99V80d  very nice
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are the fender vintera ii jazz basses good? the lake placid blue with rosewood is my thing
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ethanol posted:are the fender vintera ii jazz basses good? the lake placid blue with rosewood is my thing If you can play one, check out the G&L Tribute JBs. Fit, finish, and hardware on my G&L Tribute P runs circles around any Fender MIM and even most MIJs I've played in my personal experience, and they're available in lake placid blue with rosewood. I'm an absolute fanboy for them now and I might pull the trigger on an MIA next year. G&L *do* trend heavy
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So a while ago, I set out to replace my ailing Eden amp with something new and shiny. I saw all kinds of nifty options at the Toronto Long & McQuade music store, only to get there and witness...a refurbished Ampeg and a GK. Not to cast aspersions on GK, but I was hoping on trying out stuff that I hadn't heard before, especially the Mesa-Boogie amps they were supposed to have. So I walked out of there with the GK - it was a nice sounding amp but carrying it was like trying to haul a boat anchor. It had some issues recently so I took it to a local L & M to get it repaired and lo and behold, they had some nice Mesa amps there. I decided that since I'm in my 50s and can't afford getting a hernia every time I have a rehearsal, I would swap out the GK for the more lightweight M-B Subway WD-800. My Dad comes from the days when he would use punch cards with a mainframe and his eyes did this  when I showed him a tube amp* that weighed 7 pounds.* well ok, hybrid
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Switched mode power supplies rule and should’ve been introduced sooner.
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Bread Dragon posted:If you can play one, check out the G&L Tribute JBs. Fit, finish, and hardware on my G&L Tribute P runs circles around any Fender MIM and even most MIJs I've played in my personal experience, and they're available in lake placid blue with rosewood. I'm an absolute fanboy for them now and I might pull the trigger on an MIA next year.   Anyways I have a shitload of guitars but this is my first bass. I’m not having too hard of a time playing it right away actually. Playing it seems to be easier than mixing it though because it’s a bit muddy. I need to watch some eq videos on this. I am using a helix for amp and cab sim right into my mix. Definitely setup was way off at first. Unplayable high action above 3mm, both saddles and neck needed to be adjusted. Lucky its all the same work as a normal guitar.. I was able remedy all that and it immediately became really fun and addicting to play. Should have gotten a bass a very long time ago!
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I want to experiment a little with string gauges, trending toward the heavier side. I expect to have to do a full setup when replacing the medium gauge strings that are already on my bass, but is there anything I should be aware of regarding tension that needs to be considered? I have vague memories of a friend ripping the bridge off of a cheap acoustic guitar after putting heavy strings on it but imagine brand-name basses are a little more durable. Still, anything to know?
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Curious as to why you want heavier string gauges? I think sometimes people believe it will give them better tone, but I have yet to see that proven.
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Seventh Arrow posted:Curious as to why you want heavier string gauges? I think sometimes people believe it will give them better tone, but I have yet to see that proven. More or less that. I'd like a little more low end and sustain, which I can do with my EQ pedal, but figure improving the sound at the source would be better. I really only started paying attention to the shape and tone of my sound beyond what I could dial in on my amp recently, so I'm trying to branch out in general. I listened to some comparisons between flat and roundwound strings and want to experiment a bit there as well. I've got three basses and only play one regularly so I've got some room and time to mess around with the others.
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BrianRx posted:More or less that. I'd like a little more low end and sustain, which I can do with my EQ pedal, but figure improving the sound at the source would be better. I really only started paying attention to the shape and tone of my sound beyond what I could dial in on my amp recently, so I'm trying to branch out in general. I listened to some comparisons between flat and roundwound strings and want to experiment a bit there as well. I've got three basses and only play one regularly so I've got some room and time to mess around with the others. If this is for recording you can try layering your bass over two tracks. Track 1 is amp+effects, and track 2 would be straight DI with a high pass filter, maybe a boost on the low end. If this is just bedroom playing, play towards the neck, maybe use a high mass bridge
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ethanol posted:that was a good suggestion but I’m working on a project and I just wanted to get something really close by Direct only is the way to go. Any recording I've done it seems the way we go.
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Shageletic posted:Direct only is the way to go. Any recording I've done it seems the way we go. You’re saying direct with no amp or cab simulation?
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Seventh Arrow posted:Curious as to why you want heavier string gauges? I think sometimes people believe it will give them better tone, but I have yet to see that proven. I think this is kinda true if you are in a low tuning and the strings are too floppy but once they're tense enough to have good attack idk if good sound continues scaling with bigger strings beyond that
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BrianRx posted:More or less that. I'd like a little more low end and sustain, which I can do with my EQ pedal, but figure improving the sound at the source would be better. I really only started paying attention to the shape and tone of my sound beyond what I could dial in on my amp recently, so I'm trying to branch out in general. I listened to some comparisons between flat and roundwound strings and want to experiment a bit there as well. I've got three basses and only play one regularly so I've got some room and time to mess around with the others. I choose strings based more on how i want the guitar to play than how i want it to sound, because no amount of EQ/effects will change how it feels to play, but you can add sustain in post production. less tension = easier to fret and bend at the price of sustain. I also find I need to be more gentle with attack. More tension = higher sustain, better note clarity for faster playing. Action can go lower, can attack heavier/faster with less flubbing. Wowporn posted:I think this is kinda true if you are in a low tuning and the strings are too floppy but once they're tense enough to have good attack idk if good sound continues scaling with bigger strings beyond that P much this. I went to 110s for my C tuned bass with a 35" neck and it plays/feels like 100s on a 34" neck in E. one of my guitars I had set up in D but i tuned it down to C as I needed a spare guitar, and the loss of tension makes it sound a little darker which totally suits the music, but not exactly the way I like my strings to feel when I play. Laserface fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Apr 26, 2024 |
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ethanol posted:You’re saying direct with no amp or cab simulation? I mean I'm gonna show my rear end since I'm not an engineer but that's been my experience, nothing but my pedals and tweaking it accordingly.
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Laserface posted:I choose strings based more on how i want the guitar to play than how i want it to sound, because no amount of EQ/effects will change how it feels to play, but you can add sustain in post production. Ah, I pretty much only play live, either at rehearsal or gigs. Feel is number one, sound is a close second. So higher tension seems like what I'm looking for. Speaking of gigs, we played a pretty mediocre set tonight. Got off stage bitching about not being able to hear ourselves, the engineer buried the vocals, blah blah blah. Then the band that followed us killed it. They were tight, their songs were good, and they brought a decent-sized, enthusiastic crowd to a venue that isn't really set up for live music. They're breaking or about to so I shouldn't really compare our performance to theirs, but they were great to watch, seemed like good people offstage, and I hated them a little because of it.
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 Look at this monstrosity my buddy has in his shop. It also has led inlays and weighs like 14.5 lbs. no idea about the maker or date, but it looked like a really early Bartolini set.
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Was that for Prince's bass player
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how is it 14.5 lb when most of the bass is missing
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ethanol posted:how is it 14.5 lb when most of the bass is missing ??? The bass is very clearly there.
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The owner is a lefty so it’s actually MOM
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In a few months my group has a gig at a venue where we're expected to bring all our own gear. I don't own an amp. Would a cab sim pedal or something similar be a good option for going into the PA?
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Can you go direct into the board? Surely they have monitors E: oh you mentioned going into the PA. I just have a DI in my pedalboard for that. It's fine i guess if it's a small gig/place
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Captain Splendid posted:In a few months my group has a gig at a venue where we're expected to bring all our own gear. Sansamp
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Yeah. I also have a darkglass b7k (that was what I talking abour with my "DI") that I can runout to gently caress with the sound on my end but Idk depends on if you actually have a good sound guy there or not
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If you’re in a band how have you been playing/rehearsing without an amp? Expecting the venue to provide an amp is definitely not the norm, and the PA capabilities (outside of vocals) of smaller venues is not something to really count on. If you are at all serious about playing you need to have an amp.
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Just a heads up, Sam Ash is closing all of their stores, may be some deals locally, the website is all but cleared out it seems.
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DrChu posted:If you’re in a band how have you been playing/rehearsing without an amp? Expecting the venue to provide an amp is definitely not the norm, and the PA capabilities (outside of vocals) of smaller venues is not something to really count on. If you are at all serious about playing you need to have an amp. im not the OP, but its not out of the ordinary for young bands around here to not have their own amps as they seem to do most of their writing in their home studio in their bedroom and then rent gear at the rehearsal space if rehearsing for a gig. people are sharing housing and living in smaller spaces, so poo poo like headphone amp pedals, the Waza wireless headphones, Positive Grid Spark amps etc are all pretty popular as you dont need an all tube SVT and 810 to make nice bass sounds any more. some venues here offer a full backline including amps (one place is sponsored by Orange so has 2 full stacks and an 810 with all tube heads, ludwig kit). some venues have just a drum kit provided, sometimes cabs . generally the norm here is headline act supplies the backline, everyone else bring your own amp and drum hardware (snare, cymbals, pedal, stool usually too). concessions made for bands coming from out of town/chill people. the studio i rehearse at has amps and cabs and full drum kits to rent if required. can book them out for gigs, too, if you need (and has saved my rear end a few times). its all mixed-bag used gear but theres a few GK/Warwick amps, ampeg/Trace Elliott cabs and plenty of guitar combos and cabs, usually marshall. I think Ive used my own cab maybe 5 out of the last 30 gigs. its definitely not a requirement for playing live around here but if you're not careful you will eventually book a gig where no one actually owns any gear and is expecting everyone else to bring something. about 12-15 years ago the landscape was pretty different and you had 20-30min changeovers between bands and everyone was expected to swap all the gear over - which has a knock on effect of taking up 4 bands worth of floor space. its a much better solution for everyone now to share cabs and kit, you can fit an extra band on the bill with the time saved in changeovers alone. Laserface fucked around with this message at 02:02 on May 6, 2024 |
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It's not unusual to share gear with other bands at a local gig either.
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I'm pretty lazy these days I don't bother to play places that don't already have a backline/bass amp. But I'm not touring just playing local spots in my neighborhood in nyc or maybe once in awhile in the city.
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Laserface posted:im not the OP, but its not out of the ordinary for young bands around here to not have their own amps as they seem to do most of their writing in their home studio in their bedroom and then rent gear at the rehearsal space if rehearsing for a gig. people are sharing housing and living in smaller spaces, so poo poo like headphone amp pedals, the Waza wireless headphones, Positive Grid Spark amps etc are all pretty popular as you dont need an all tube SVT and 810 to make nice bass sounds any more. It's this on pretty much all counts. A full-size bass amp of my own is not something I have ever needed up to this point and would definitely not see enough use to make up for the lack of practicality.
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I've always tried to organise cab/kit sharing for local gigs I've put on, and either hired it or asked the headliner to supply. Once everyone figures out that they get an extra 5-10 mins of set time, it's an easy sell.
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Would I be crazy to modify a perfectly good Stingray Special 4HH to move the pickups closer to the bridge? I feel confident that it'll sound how I want it, and would have the work done by a luthier. If anybody cares I'd be happy to describe what I'm doing and why, but for now I'm just wondering if there's some downside or alternative I'm missing. I love the Stingray and don't want to sell it, I just want it to sound different.
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