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Jerusalem posted:Yep! I remember earlier in the season seeing the Ferengi bartender and thinking it was a bit too fan-servicey (I guess Quark's REALLY had staying power as a franchise!) but then I noticed Morn and gently caress it, I'm good with the idea that he's just eternally always at the bar. Any bar. EVERY bar. There is more than one way to Ascend. When Ascended Badgy found he could be everywhere at once he lost his homicidal urges. When Ascended Morn found he could be everywhere at once, he chose to manifest in every bar everywhere, forever. There's probably a Q somewhere mad they didn't think of it first.
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Facebook Aunt posted:Shimerman is getting a little old for fight scenes. So is Dorn, for that matter. Best to have skilled stuntmen work with him so he doesn't hurt himself. Shatner though, Shatner still got it! Just you watch, he could re-do the gorn fight any day of the week!!!
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# ? Apr 27, 2024 11:06 |
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dr_rat posted:Shatner though, Shatner still got it! He can't though. Neither of them can. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hnBp7x2QAE
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Accipiter posted:He can't though. Neither of them can. I do love this. To be clear, the Shat/og Gorn bit, not that horrible game.
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Cojawfee posted:I really hope the Breen aren't even looking for them. They are both idiots, as John Wick of Dogs pointed out. When the guy was all "I'm putting an erigah on you", it would be hilarious if that was just a way for him to make Moll and Lak go away forever. There is no blood bounty or whatever. They are just running around the galaxy all "Oh no, the Breen are going to find us, we have to keep hiding!" Meanwhile the guy's uncle is living it up now that his dipshit nephew isn't loving up the docks anymore.
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# ? Apr 27, 2024 17:15 |
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Because L’ak is still Breen royalty and presumably they’d be bringing the Progenitor weapon back to his uncle. The assumption would be that since they’re family, all would be forgiven given the power of the device could tip the Breen infighting in their favor.
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# ? Apr 27, 2024 17:22 |
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I mean that doesn't stop them from just killing them both, the Breen are pretty ruthless generally
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# ? Apr 27, 2024 17:28 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:Moll and L'ak's plan is extraordinarily stupid. They are going to bring the Breen the ancient tech, and then why wouldn't the Breen just kill them immediately? They have no reason to not gently caress them over. Pretty sure Michael makes the same point in the episode.
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# ? Apr 27, 2024 17:31 |
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The galaxy’s a big place, just go hide on some middle of nowhere planet and raise space sheep or something. You’ve got a ship, you can go anywhere! I hope this ep killed Book’s drive to help her. Like, she gave you nothing and hated her father. You’ve got no in.
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The_Doctor posted:I hope this ep killed Book’s drive to help her. Like, she gave you nothing and hated her father. You’ve got no in. That guy is the king of lost causes, between these two mercs and that guy last season who was willing to gently caress over the galaxy to get to another universe
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# ? Apr 27, 2024 18:07 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:I mean that doesn't stop them from just killing them both, the Breen are pretty ruthless generally Granted, but they’re still just desperate fugitives. Not exactly the kind of motivation that leads to well-thought-out plans.
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# ? Apr 27, 2024 18:13 |
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Why didn't Michael just tell them "hey that cute time spider thing showed me the timeline where you win and it's loving trashed by the Breen"?
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# ? Apr 27, 2024 18:21 |
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pik_d posted:Why didn't Michael just tell them "hey that cute time spider thing showed me the timeline where you win and it's loving trashed by the Breen"? Not trashed, just conquered by the Breen and Moll already said she didn’t give a poo poo so long as she and L’ak were safe
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FlamingLiberal posted:I wouldn’t count on it Book goes Qowat Milat is a twist I didn't see coming but makes perfect sense
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# ? Apr 27, 2024 18:51 |
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I don’t believe they have said either way if the Dominion is still a thing in this time, but I would not want to be going to live in the Gamma Quadrant to find out
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# ? Apr 27, 2024 19:33 |
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Me: Ok so let me get this straight, there's an erigah on you Lok: Yes Me: Because of your forbidden love with a human, and for showing your face Lok: Yes Me: Also you killed two guys and shot your uncle who is high royalty Lok: Correct Me: And your plan is, you found out about an ancient technology that might let you do anything Lok: Yes Me: And you are following clues left by ancient scientists step by step Lok: Yes Me: And then when you get this you are going to give it to your uncle Lok: Yes Me: Because he said he would lift the erigah? Lok: No Me: He didn't? Lol: No Me: But you know he is looking for it? Lok: No Me: Has he even ever heard of it? Lok: No Me: But now you're on the run from the Breen and Starfleet Lok: Yes Me: And Starfleet says the Breen will destroy the galaxy if they get that technology Lok: Yes Me: And you've been on the run for years trying to get it Lok: Yes Me: Have you seen any other Breen or been pursued by any in that time? Lok: No Me: Ok. I have a few more questions Moll: Look, man, you don't understand what it's like! You weren't around for THE BURN. Things are different!
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 01:18 |
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Why wouldn’t they just use the ancient tech to make their own paradise planet, with blackjack and hookers
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 02:08 |
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I'm pretty sure, outside of Moll actually saying,"Progenitors" in an earlier episode when she shouldn't have any idea about them, that they actually have no idea what the tech is or what it does, just that it is very powerful and valuable and gigantic organizations like Starfleet are willing to pour a ton of resources into getting it. In the latest episode, Burnham straight up asks L'ak if he knows what they're chasing and he says all he knows is that it is valuable. So their plan is to find it, then go to the Breen and say,"Here's a thing that we don't know what it is, forgive our unforgivable crimes now thanks."
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 02:42 |
Sometimes a species threatens to destroy the galaxy and everything in it and you just gotta do what they say. Worked for the mass effect aliens, why not Breen?
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 02:52 |
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The finale should just be the Breen activating the technology and then every ship and starbase in the Milky Way explodes. And everybody’s skeletons explode. Violently. Smash cut to a spooky child’s choir singing the Star Trek theme in a minor key as the galaxy is sanitized, ala firing the Halo Array. Ultra grimdark ending. Also slaps an expiration date on all future Star Trek shows. “Cannot make any Star Trek shows that take place in the prime universe which happen after the 32nd century.”
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 09:11 |
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Gonz posted:The finale should just be the Breen activating the technology and then every ship and starbase in the Milky Way explodes. Smash cut to Riker and Troi in the Holodeck on TNG enterprise. "well certainly glad that was all a holodeck simulation, all that seems awful!", "yes, now lets forget that all happened and tell Picard not to do all that awfulstuff in the future that we also just saw on the holodeck." "yeah, I think we can make a better future than that".
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 09:51 |
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dr_rat posted:Smash cut to Riker and Troi in the Holodeck on TNG enterprise. "well certainly glad that was all a holodeck simulation, all that seems awful!", "yes, now lets forget that all happened and tell Picard not to do all that awfulstuff in the future that we also just saw on the holodeck." "yeah, I think we can make a better future than that". Alternatively, the entire Discovery series is a dream that Reg Barclay had. He wakes up from it, shrugs it off, and then goes to check some old isolinear chips as part of his daily chores.
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 10:44 |
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Gonz posted:Alternatively, the entire Discovery series is a dream that Reg Barclay had.
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 10:57 |
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"Counselor, I'm having these freaky dreams about Ensign 3rd class Burnham."
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 14:11 |
Burnham is just another creepy Geordi holo
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 16:38 |
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This season would be much better if it didn't have Moll and L'ak in it. Just have Discovery using it's Spore Drive to jump around the galaxy collecting all the pieces and having Trek adventures along the way.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 05:19 |
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How would a season be better if you removed the main antagonists?
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 06:26 |
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Guessing the reasoning is that the main antagonists kinda suck
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 06:42 |
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They aren't good antagonists. They are easily tricked, and magically get away every time, without the macguffin. The only reason why they can keep up is because the writers keep deus ex machinaing them to have magical devices like that time bug. How are they going to figure out how to beat Discovery to the next thing? I doubt they were able to sneak another tracking device, and even if they did, the discovery can jump anywhere in the universe. They shouldn't be able to get anywhere before Discovery can. And what is their plan for even getting the device if they don't have the clue things? it's clearly leading up to them being put together and then that reveals the final clue that shows where the device is. The dipshit squad is never going to convince star fleet to hand over the pieces they already have. It's not like the Discovery crew even want the progenitor device, they just want to find it so it can be locked up so no one else can use it. So wingus and dingus collect the rest of the clues and, what, take those to the Breen and say "These will tell you where a powerful device is. All you have to do is defeat the federation to get the rest of the pieces."
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 06:58 |
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Big Mean Jerk posted:How would a season be better if you removed the main antagonists? Think about Picard season 3 I guess maybe it's just "the antagonist shouldn't be stupid poo poo from a butt"
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 07:07 |
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Big Mean Jerk posted:How would a season be better if you removed the main antagonists?
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 07:29 |
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The OP was not “the antagonists are bad”, it was “this season shouldn’t have any antagonists, it should just be a scavenger hunt”. That’s what I was replying to.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 07:50 |
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Big Mean Jerk posted:How would a season be better if you removed the main antagonists? Who were the main antagonists of a season of TNG?
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 09:00 |
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Senor Tron posted:Who were the main antagonists of a season of TNG? I mean it's not like for like but first the Ferengi, then the Romulans, then the Borg very occasionally but mostly the Romulans. I agree that Star Trek doesn't need a main antagonist for a lot of its stories but the writers always knew that sometimes good drama requires an antagonist who opposes the protagonists getting what they want.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 09:13 |
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Alchenar posted:I mean it's not like for like but first the Ferengi, then the Romulans, then the Borg very occasionally but mostly the Romulans. Yeah, most episodes need an antagonist of some kind, but if you're gonna do one (or in this case a pair) across the whole season they need a massive amount of depth to feel like there is a payoff from learning more about them and their motivations.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 09:49 |
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Oh yeah I'm not watching Discovery but I can believe the antagonists exist only to provide someone for Burnham to shoot/persuade with an impassioned speech in the finale and are basically unnecessary to the story.
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Alchenar posted:Oh yeah I'm not watching Discovery but I can believe the antagonists exist only to provide someone for Burnham to shoot/persuade with an impassioned speech in the finale and are basically unnecessary to the story. Or both at the same time.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:The OP was not “the antagonists are bad”, it was “this season shouldn’t have any antagonists, it should just be a scavenger hunt”. That’s what I was replying to. "The antagonists are bad" is still a perfectly cromulent answer to your question though
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Big Mean Jerk posted:How would a season be better if you removed the main antagonists? That would've also improved every season of Picard.
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A Star Trek season does NOT need a villain antagonist, let alone one for the entire season.
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