[P/I] from the larva to the bee

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Red Baron: Mar 9, 2007; ty slumfrog

Joementum posted:

https://twitter.com/HeathaT/status/1784322985207230562

lmao

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# ? May 11, 2024 07:07

RealityWarCriminal: Aug 10, 2016

falafel man is so incredibly racist lol

super shlumper rules though
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/s/shlumper.htm

# ? Apr 27, 2024 21:55

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019; Can't post for 43 hours!

RealityWarCriminal posted:

falafel man is so incredibly racist lol

super shlumper rules though
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/s/shlumper.htm

lol wtf
The Golem

www.internationalhero.co.uk posted:

The Golem

Real Name:
Yossi Stein

Identity/Class: Either mutated human or magically altered human

Occupation: Protector of the Jewish people, secret agent for the Magen

Affiliations: Dani-Din; Lilith; Samson; Tarzan, Marshal Bill Carter, Buck Jones

Enemies: The Jine (an Arabic demon); Reshef (a Canaanite god); Asmedey(a demon); the Hangman from Corfu; the Black Nazi; Pinkus, evil conqueror from another planet; a vampire from Transylvania; the Blue Giant; the Invincibles (a mutant group)

Known Relatives: None

Aliases: Unknown

Base of Operations: Israel

First Appearance: The Golem (2003)

Powers/Abilities: Unknown

History: The Golem is a hero who has been round since the 1940's, meeting such famous Israeli personalities as Moshe Dayan and Ariel Sharon. He has several origin stories (they changed with each decade).

Initially his "first " origin had him gain his powers from a scientist (Professor Finstein)'s invention. In the "second" of his origin stories he got his powers from the Seal of King Solomon, guarded by one of the ten lost tribes in Africa. In a third origin story he became the Golem after being accidentally exposed to radiation during an atomic experiment in the Israeli nuclear centre at Dimona.

Some of his adventures involved time travel, with the Golem meeting the likes of Samson, or going back to the Wild West where he encountered Marshall Bill Carter and ranger Buck Jones.

mawarannahr has issued a correction as of 22:02 on Apr 27, 2024

# ? Apr 27, 2024 21:59

mdemone: Mar 14, 2001

oh word? we are cutting Israel loose through leaking to Reuters

well. that'll happen.

# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:00

KomradeX: Oct 29, 2011

OctaMurk posted:

there's not gonna be a hostage deal as long as Israel exsists

Thia heavy focus on Bibi always seems to side step that everyone in Israeli politics is as bad or wrose than him with regard to Palestine. There is not a single Israeli politician thatnwouldnhave done anytbing different from him. The Israeli State does not care about the hoatages

# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:01

madmatt112: Jul 11, 2016; Is that a cat in your pants, or are you just a lonely excuse for an adult?

StashAugustine posted:

I do wanna zero in on this because this is a ~~racist~~ funny way to say "when Arabs tried to have self determination after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire the British et al hosed them over"

I might have mentioned this but I met someone who was only recently made aware that Israel was a recently founded country and not a direct continuation of the biblical kingdom

wait what

# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:10

studio mujahideen: May 3, 2005

Zodium posted:

he should be freed, and given an apology and an admin star

# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:11

Bel Shazar: Sep 14, 2012

Second Hand Meat Mouth posted:

chouhada is the french transliteration of the algerian شهداء/shuhadā which means martyr - it's from the algerian separatists during the revolution

That's awesome, other than Herbert changing the meaning to 'fighters'

# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:17

Dokapon Findom: Dec 5, 2022; They hated Futanari because His posts were shit.

mawarannahr posted:

lol wtf
The Golem

It just makes me think of the Pokemon of the same name

# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:18

Red Baron: Mar 9, 2007; ty slumfrog

KomradeX posted:

Thia heavy focus on Bibi always seems to side step that everyone in Israeli politics is as bad or wrose than him with regard to Palestine. There is not a single Israeli politician thatnwouldnhave done anytbing different from him. The Israeli State does not care about the hoatages

so what you�re saying is that until Israel as a state dies, there can be no peace?

death to Israel then.

# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:23

The Voice of Labor: Apr 8, 2020

*idf rabbi raises a golem to protect the righteous*

*golem immediately starts slaughtering the idf*

# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:29

carcinofuck: Apr 18, 2001; pink floyd still sucks

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

That's pretty much how Islam started, according to the latest research in the past 10 years.
...
So you have the Romans and Persians creating all of these conditions where Arabia is developing rapidly but won't be let into the political or ideological order on an equal footing. The idea of an Ummah, or community united by a single creed, ended two hundred years of religious violence, first within Arabia, then without. If you compare the simplicity of the shahada to, not the Nicene Creed, but the (now obscure) interpretations of specific words or phrases of the Nicene Creed that led to whole cities in Syria being destroyed in these Roman wars of religion, it seems reasonable to think that peace under the "barbarians" was preferable to persecution under one or both of the major empires.

ok but this is just materialist reach for lack of understanding vertical causation

# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:30

Second Hand Meat Mouth: Sep 12, 2001

Bel Shazar posted:

That's awesome, other than Herbert changing the meaning to 'fighters'

ah but herbert didn't say it was fighters, lady jessica did...

# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:38

Mr. Sharps: Jul 30, 2006; The only true law is that which leads to freedom. There is no other.

madmatt112 posted:

wait what

almost every American alive thinks Israel is 2024 years old

# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:41

DAD LOST MY IPOD: Feb 3, 2012; Fats Dominar is on the case

KomradeX posted:

Thia heavy focus on Bibi always seems to side step that everyone in Israeli politics is as bad or wrose than him with regard to Palestine. There is not a single Israeli politician thatnwouldnhave done anytbing different from him. The Israeli State does not care about the hoatages

that�s literally the point of the focus op

# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:44

StashAugustine: Mar 24, 2013; Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Mr. Sharps posted:

almost every American alive thinks Israel is 2024 years old

Almost every is pushing it, but yeah plenty of Americans are very ignorant

# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:50

The Voice of Labor: Apr 8, 2020

that's o.k.. they'll buy that there's a jewsish homeland in utah that's existed for just as long and that the mormons must be driven from it that it may be reclaimed

# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:53

Mr. Sharps: Jul 30, 2006; The only true law is that which leads to freedom. There is no other.

*reading the bible*

AND He was king of the jews??? wow!

# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:54

dads friend steve: Dec 24, 2004

Mr. Sharps posted:

almost every American alive thinks Israel is 2024 years old

that�s also how old Santa is

# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:55

PawParole: Nov 16, 2019

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

That's pretty much how Islam started, according to the latest research in the past 10 years.

first of all, Islam started with the prophet Adam, so jot that down.

# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:58

Orange Devil: Oct 1, 2010; Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

AnEdgelord posted:

Well there's also this thing called the 100 years war which is part of the European Wars of Religion after the Reformation

Also a little thing called the 30 years war.

Mister Bates posted:

history began when I woke up this morning and there have been no previous events of any kind

Except for the crusades and the jihads.

# ? Apr 27, 2024 23:03

Smythe: Oct 12, 2003

Tankbuster posted:

lmao super shlumper.

lmfaoooooooooo

# ? Apr 27, 2024 23:07

Google Butt: Oct 4, 2005; Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

vile shlomo just got drafted to the legion of doom, drat

# ? Apr 27, 2024 23:13

F_Shit_Fitzgerald: Feb 2, 2017

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

https://fxtwitter.com/solidarity_star/status/1784277583028220098?s=46&t=UyfxoSAUKW7QZlR_GhkuYA

Wilkerson and Napolitano both have been surprisingly good on the issue of Gaza. Wilkerson's a Vietnam era guy and he was praising student protestors for their courage, so whatever you think of him (or Andrew Napolitano), they are at least consistent in their beliefs. I respect that.

# ? Apr 27, 2024 23:16

fuctifino: Jun 11, 2001

quote:

Fierce bombardment now on the Israeli military base Meron in northern occupied Palestine. 50 Katyusha rockets directly hit the base and its surroundings.

The missile targeting is coming from Lebanon.

https://twitter.com/tamerqdh/status/1784347777905930351

I guess this means the Iron Dome is no longer functional?

fuctifino has issued a correction as of 23:52 on Apr 27, 2024

# ? Apr 27, 2024 23:26

BWV: Feb 24, 2005

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

That's pretty much how Islam started, according to the latest research in the past 10 years.

Both Romans and Persians employed Arabs as mercenaries, federated troops, and auxiliary states during the Roman-Persian Wars, and promoted the spread of Christianity and Zoroastrianism in Arabia, while at the same time, treating them pretty bad. Most importantly, neither would allow the Arabs to have a stake in their religion. For the Zoroastrians, the religion required certain holy sites, containing holy fires, all of which were in Persia, for it to be practiced.

For the Christians, most of Syria and Arabia was the "wrong" type of Christian which the Romans persecuted more fiercely than would make sense if you understood the theological minutiae this was over. The Romans also refused to appoint bishops to the Arabs, because that would be a sort of legal recognition of them as nations. This culminated in a giant, Christian, Jihad, under Mavia, which defeated the Romans. The monk Moses was appointed to be Bishop of the Arabs as part of the terms of peace. This was a fairly big deal because he was recognized as one of the holiest men of the age, he's been canonized since. It's probably not a surprise to people ITT, but the fact that the Christian Empire did not act very Christian in their dealings with subjects or people on the fringes of empire caused a lot of dissonance.

The huge amounts of money and military experience going to the Arabs from both sides of these wars, exactly like the barbarians in Northern Europe and the Balkans transformed their society. It made them better organized, created centralized political leadership, traditions of diplomacy, a sense of communal identity etc. It also made them really potent, military forces.

The Romans had just finished another cycle of their favourite thing "betray and massacre 'Barbarians' who had grown too powerful" to a few Arab tribes on the eve of Mohammed, which if you remember had already led to the destruction of a Roman army and death of an emperor at Adrianople, and would again lead to similar problems with the Bulgarians later, but apparently they couldn't help themselves.

So you have the Romans and Persians creating all of these conditions where Arabia is developing rapidly but won't be let into the political or ideological order on an equal footing. The idea of an Ummah, or community united by a single creed, ended two hundred years of religious violence, first within Arabia, then without. If you compare the simplicity of the shahada to, not the Nicene Creed, but the (now obscure) interpretations of specific words or phrases of the Nicene Creed that led to whole cities in Syria being destroyed in these Roman wars of religion, it seems reasonable to think that peace under the "barbarians" was preferable to persecution under one or both of the major empires.

I found this very interesting. Can you recommend any books/articles that explore the rise of Islam in relation to these events? Apologies if you already posted them, the thread moves fast.

# ? Apr 27, 2024 23:26

KomradeX: Oct 29, 2011

Red Baron posted:

so what you’re saying is that until Israel as a state dies, there can be no peace?

death to Israel then.

# ? Apr 27, 2024 23:29

Kopmala: Mar 28, 2024

4d3d3d posted:

Probably posted already but lol
https://twitter.com/HotSpotHotSpot/status/1783529872440062164

cannot wait for all the lawsuits

# ? Apr 27, 2024 23:36

Mister Bates: Aug 4, 2010

there is a tiny Israeli Communist Party who are vocally anti-Zionist, multiracial (although majority Arab), and have a small but consistent presence in the Knesset, including Ofer Cassif, who is Jewish

they only get a few percent of the vote in every election, their support is so heavily concentrated among Arabic speakers that their party newspaper is published in Arabic instead of Hebrew, and their representatives are constantly being censured, harassed, accused of crimes, or impeached, but they do exist

# ? Apr 27, 2024 23:42

ikanreed: Sep 25, 2009; I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Kopmala posted:

cannot wait for all the lawsuits

Not to be a doomer, but I feel like judges are all just as bought as politicians

# ? Apr 27, 2024 23:46

ded redd: Aug 1, 2010

Kopmala posted:

cannot wait for all the lawsuits

ikanreed posted:

Not to be a doomer, but I feel like judges are all just as bought as politicians

actually lawsuits are illegal now

# ? Apr 27, 2024 23:47

DJJIB-DJDCT: Feb 1, 2024

carcinofuck posted:

ok but this is just materialist reach for lack of understanding vertical causation

vertical causation in the sense of Brecht, or?

# ? Apr 27, 2024 23:49

E2M2: Mar 2, 2007; Ain't No Thang.

fuctifino posted:

https://twitter.com/tamerqdh/status/1784347777905930351

I guess this means the Iron Dome is no longer functional?

Got a feeling that that's why they pushed an Israeli aid package real loving fast

# ? Apr 28, 2024 00:04

Kopmala: Mar 28, 2024

paul_soccer12 posted:

everyone in the idf must die

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# ? Apr 28, 2024 00:06

Cao Ni Ma: May 25, 2010

fuctifino posted:

I guess this means the Iron Dome is no longer functional?

Wasnt it yesterday that the US was saying that Iran shouldn't feel confident after the attack on israel cause it was no good and failed? Lmao if thats all it took to put it on the fritz

# ? Apr 28, 2024 00:17

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

most of iran's missiles were shot down by the us, not israel. separately, hezbollah has been systematically destroying iron dome and surveillance infrastructure in the north

# ? Apr 28, 2024 00:28

Google Butt: Oct 4, 2005; Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

why doesn't Biden just grant Israel statehood already

# ? Apr 28, 2024 00:31