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It's such a weird doubling down. Yes if you live on a farm with lots of animals you will end up having to put a few down, usually out of sympathy and compassion to end suffering, but the story with the dog isn't that it was suffering or in pain. Instead it just wasn't a good hunter she she decided to kill it, and then figured while she was in a killing mood she should kill a goat too because why waste a good time. Did she really think it would make her look sympathetic?
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Madkal posted:It's such a weird doubling down. Yes if you live on a farm with lots of animals you will end up having to put a few down, usually out of sympathy and compassion to end suffering, but the story with the dog isn't that it was suffering or in pain. Instead it just wasn't a good hunter she she decided to kill it, and then figured while she was in a killing mood she should kill a goat too because why waste a good time. Did she really think it would make her look sympathetic? Yeah maybe it's possible to tell a story about humanely putting down an animal as a last resort that makes you look good but blowing away two animals with a shotgun for the reasons "it was hyperactive" and "I've always hated it" sure as hell is not that haveblue fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Apr 28, 2024 |
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Madkal posted:It's such a weird doubling down. Yes if you live on a farm with lots of animals you will end up having to put a few down, usually out of sympathy and compassion to end suffering, but the story with the dog isn't that it was suffering or in pain. Instead it just wasn't a good hunter she she decided to kill it, and then figured while she was in a killing mood she should kill a goat too because why waste a good time. Did she really think it would make her look sympathetic? She thought it would make her look decisive and willing to take action to solve a problem. She failed to realize that most Americans like animals (especially domesticated pets), or at a minimum are ambivalent towards them. Most folks I've known who actively disliked dogs were fearful of them due to childhood experience or trauma, and their reaction was more "That's a cute dog but please keep it away from me, I'm scared of them." I can think of 2 people I've met that just disliked dogs in general, and they were deeply weird in other ways - they saw dogs as an unrewarding time sink, an extra source of messiness in the owner's home, etc.
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Shooting Blanks posted:I can think of 2 people I've met that just disliked dogs in general, and they were deeply weird in other ways - they saw dogs as an unrewarding time sink, an extra source of messiness in the owner's home, etc. Again, though, both of those people are Donald Trump
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mutata posted:When the only tool you have is a hammer and a damaged brain, all problems look like a young puppy's face, I guess. I read this and thought "this is a really great quote, really captures some insane zeitgeist we have to witness" then i realized that it describes how so many conservatives are just doubling down on dog murderin so then i was like "the quote is even better now"
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ive known plenty of people who dont like dogs but the bulk of them are from or are the children of people from countries where dogs are not kept as pets. and it makes sense! i went to high school with a kid from ghana and he was like "its so weird that you let wild animals live in your house". i get it. but dogs rock.
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I've known people who don't like dogs/are scared of dogs but none of those people have ever had a violent reaction to dogs and wished to see them dead. The only time I have ever heard someone being glad about a dog being put down is usually after a story about some dog attacking a child and the dog being put down afterwards. By all accounts Noem's dog never attacked a child and needed to be put down. Also security needs to make sure Noem gets nowhere near Biden's pooches (though hearing the story about how the dogs like to bite the Secret Service maybe they will let Noem in)
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Madkal posted:I've known people who don't like dogs/are scared of dogs but none of those people have ever had a violent reaction to dogs and wished to see them dead. The only time I have ever heard someone being glad about a dog being put down is usually after a story about some dog attacking a child and the dog being put down afterwards. Yeah, people with genuine phobias of dogs generally react in a different way, just don't want to be around the animal or something. It makes them very anxious. This person took a gun, slowly and methodically, to a dog and blasted away. I'm not saying you specifically are doing this, but this conversation will get incredibly stupid once Wolf Blitzer or some other big media dude tries to equivocate between "shooting a puppy like you're Hannibal Lecter" and "dogs that have to be put down due to uncontrollable violence towards small children". I have a genuine difficulty understanding people who view pets as property, not buddies. It's hypocritical since I eat meat, but I'd make buddies with a chicken too I guess, it'd just be awful to imagine eating them later on. But pets in my life have always been members of the family, you care about their stupid antics and want them to be happy.
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So she's a cop is what y'all are saying.
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man remember when NYC mayor DeBlassio had his rerun against an R that said to run over cats to make the subway run on time.
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She's obviously from the "dogs are just 'filthy animals' that have a job and live outside to serve ME - as commanded by GOD!" simple minded standards, which is in alignment with the mouthbreathing, dimwitted chud base.
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PhazonLink posted:man remember when NYC mayor DeBlassio had his rerun against an R that said to run over cats to make the subway run on time.
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Shooting Blanks posted:She thought it would make her look decisive and willing to take action to solve a problem. PhazonLink posted:man remember when NYC mayor DeBlassio had his rerun against an R that said to run over cats to make the subway run on time. This is indicative of people like Noem. The line between "tough love", being decisive, and abject cruelty is indistinguishable.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Then Adams ran against a guy who has like 30 cats Hey man, don't peddle misinformation. Curtis Sliwa only had 16 cats in his 320 square feet studio apartment in the upper west side.  
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Shooting Blanks posted:She thought it would make her look decisive and willing to take action to solve a problem. She failed to realize that most Americans like animals (especially domesticated pets), or at a minimum are ambivalent towards them. Most folks I've known who actively disliked dogs were fearful of them due to childhood experience or trauma, and their reaction was more "That's a cute dog but please keep it away from me, I'm scared of them." I can think of 2 people I've met that just disliked dogs in general, and they were deeply weird in other ways - they saw dogs as an unrewarding time sink, an extra source of messiness in the owner's home, etc. I think she is also trying to tap into, I am real AMERICAN FARMER, and that makes me tough. I don't know many farmers but I am guessing this is not an actual regular occurrence. A dog that won't hunt still is worth having around, a farmer wouldn't just kill a dog because it wasn't performing to it's expectation.
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Mooseontheloose posted:I think she is also trying to tap into, I am real AMERICAN FARMER, and that makes me tough. Even if it was standard operating procedure to lead a dog to the gravel pit in your yard and shoot it in the head if it didn't make a good hunting dog, then it is still psychotic to shoot a puppy who had no training because she "hoped she would learn how to be a bird dog by watching older dogs" and you did literally nothing to train it to be a bird dog.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Even if it was standard operating procedure to lead a dog to the gravel pit in your yard and shoot it in the head if it didn't make a good hunting dog, then it is still psychotic to shoot a puppy who had no training because she "hoped she would learn how to be a bird dog by watching older dogs" and you did literally nothing to train it to be a bird dog. Not even a gravel pit in her yard, someone else's active gravel pit. Cause that's what a worker wants to deal with. The corpses of a dog and goat someone didn't want to deal with burying.
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when u read to kill a mockingbird and drew entirely the wrong lessons from the text
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Hey man, don't peddle misinformation. Curtis Sliwa only had 16 cats in his 320 square feet studio apartment in the upper west side. Man if only this guy had gotten into socialism or something, I'd have a new hero. Shame he's otherwise a piece of poo poo.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:when u read to kill a mockingbird and drew entirely the wrong lessons from the text this book offers very little useful tips on killing.
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On the other hand I'm sure there are plenty of shareholders and "small business owners" who would love to execute employees who are not performing to their expectations instead of firing them.
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USCE 2024: Kristi Noem Buried Her VP Chances in the Gravel Pit
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Mooseontheloose posted:I think she is also trying to tap into, I am real AMERICAN FARMER, and that makes me tough. My grandpas farm often had dogs dumped there, usually pregnant females, so there were always puppies about. I think the record was 17 from two moms who wandered in at roughly the same time. We just fed them and put up a ‘free puppies to good home’ sign. No shooting or drowning (usual way people used to get rid of unwanted kittens/puppies) required. The only time you’d ever shoot a dog is if it was acting extremely weird or aggressive towards people or your livestock, out of fear of rabies.
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Mooseontheloose posted:I think she is also trying to tap into, I am real AMERICAN FARMER, and that makes me tough. I do know a few farmers and this is not how sane people behave. In fact I know of one family of Black Angus cattle herders who used dogs to help move the herds around. They had a border collie who was great at it, so when she started getting old and slowing down they got another. Unfortunately she was a dud and sucked at the job. They would dunk on her constantly for being useless but it was with affection. She basically got downgraded to a pet. Any normal person can find a place for a "useless" dog, whether it's finding proper training, a different job, downgrade to family pet, or find another home to take them in. And if there's no choice but euthanize them, they'll find a vet. And if they DO have to shoot an animal because it's in pain and going to die anyway, they'll use something besides a loving shotgun
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:It's a central tenet of fascism: no matter the problem, solve it with violence Also because violence isn't just a means to end for fascism, it's an end unto itself.
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PhazonLink posted:man remember when NYC mayor DeBlassio had his rerun against an R that said to run over cats to make the subway run on time. Counterpoint: this shows dedication to functioning public transportation, a rarity in republicans
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Even if it was standard operating procedure to lead a dog to the gravel pit in your yard and shoot it in the head if it didn't make a good hunting dog, then it is still psychotic to shoot a puppy who had no training because she "hoped she would learn how to be a bird dog by watching older dogs" and you did literally nothing to train it to be a bird dog. I didn't know the dog hadn't actually been trained  Even a breed that was developed for hunting still requires several months of training to be a good hunting dog.
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Shooting Blanks posted:I didn't know the dog hadn't actually been trained Yeah but that would require Kristi Noem to do something approaching work and effort.
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those cats want those pigeons, also did he install one of those oldfashion window baby cages?
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Just a regular Saturday evening at the Noem household watching their favourite comedy movie Old Yeller
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Counterpoint: this shows dedication to functioning public transportation, a rarity in republicans Joe "Kitten Killer" Lhota was indeed the former head of the MTA vvvvvv I don't particularly want to go and read the story again, but didn't the chicken belong to someone else? Might hurt a self-defense argument after she's charged with animal cruelty haveblue fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Apr 28, 2024 |
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Kristi Noem wants people to stop calling on her to be charged with animal cruelty. She says she has the legal right to kill puppies under South Dakota law because lethal force is allowed to defend livestock and cricket had killed a chicken - which is livestock and allows for the use of lethal force. The goat murder was justifiable self-defense because it had headbutted her children. https://twitter.com/KristiNoem/status/1784631108207849781
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some R poo poo posters are trying to say libs care more about dog health than a
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Conservatives still give Jimmy Carter poo poo for murking a rabbit.
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FizFashizzle posted:Conservatives still give Jimmy Carter poo poo for murking a rabbit. I don't think he even killed the rabbit, just like waved a paddle at it and it eventually swam off?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Kristi Noem wants people to stop calling on her to be charged with animal cruelty. She says she has the legal right to kill puppies under South Dakota law because lethal force is allowed to defend livestock and cricket had killed a chicken - which is livestock and allows for the use of lethal force. I’m not sure what the best way for Noem to mitigate the situation would be, but I’m pretty sure continuing to talk about it every day is not helping her, so I fully endorse her releasing more statements
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Thaddius the Large posted:I’m not sure what the best way for Noem to mitigate the situation would be, but I’m pretty sure continuing to talk about it every day is not helping her, so I fully endorse her releasing more statements
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Going full on cruelty is the point probably a decent plan B in terms of wing nut welfare. Better book sales and some rightwing media outlet will give her a home to stick it to the dog loving libs.
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I don't think we're yet at the point where even the worst CHUDS cheer cruelty to animals though Now, they will if Trump says it, but not Kristi Noem
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Madkal posted:It's such a weird doubling down. Yes if you live on a farm with lots of animals you will end up having to put a few down, usually out of sympathy and compassion to end suffering, but the story with the dog isn't that it was suffering or in pain. Instead it just wasn't a good hunter she she decided to kill it, and then figured while she was in a killing mood she should kill a goat too because why waste a good time. Did she really think it would make her look sympathetic? I’ve seen this sentiment come up to dismiss animal cruelty throughout my life: “you see animal life differently when you grow up on a farm” Sending lambs off to slaughter or euthanizing a wounded animal is very, very different from casually murdering for convenience
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