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fans who've dealt with a more typical bad GM experience thinking that someone who's sat through the Al Davis twilight years and the Mayock/Gruden run are gonna be fazed by only the low end of the draft sucking is a funny one outside of the brief blip of Reggie McKenzie, I don't even know what it's like for your team to understand what the first round of the draft is
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The medical stuff brings up a good question since I honestly don't know. I assume that medical staff is controlled by ownership but is it actually a GM thing? I always thought that the Chargers medical failures were just a result of ownership being cheap and/or stupid.
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 18:38 |
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The337th posted:fans who've dealt with a more typical bad GM experience thinking that someone who's sat through the Al Davis twilight years and the Mayock/Gruden run are gonna be fazed by only the low end of the draft sucking is a funny one Telesco is just barely good enough to keep his job for several years. Maybe mediocrity is a step up, but when every year it feels like the Raiders are a dark horse to make the playoffs and always fall far short of their potential, it's a ride that you'll be happy to get off of once it's reached its final obvious conclusion. The only real difference between Telesco on the Chargers and Telesco on the Raiders is that he didn't get to choose his own head coach this time. If that makes all the difference, congrats, have hope. But as of right now, Telesco remains a fraud until proven otherwise.
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 18:49 |
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no one's ever happy to be mired in mediocrity it's just comical to act like being a perpetual mediocre dark horse is the nadir of football fandom, particularly in relation to one of the absolute biggest tire fire franchises of this century I can't imagine a Chargers fan even considering swapping the Telesco era for what the Raiders were doing in the same time frame, especially if that included the Chargers current post-Telesco era where they could easily bounce into success with no real hiccups (possible franchise curses not withstanding) The337th fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Apr 28, 2024 |
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Telesco has missed on a good share of early picks. The Raiders absolutely should have gone all in on Penix and moved up in this draft and rode that magical ride until his body exploded. 3 DONG HORSE posted:Love the absolute hype around Worthy, drafted by the Chiefs who are known for their quality WRs Either he will be a bust or somehow in trouble with the law. LiquidFriend fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Apr 28, 2024 |
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The337th posted:no one's ever happy to be mired in mediocrity I would take the Telesco era a thousand times out of a thousand compared to what the Raiders were doing
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 19:07 |
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Penix won't even reach what Carr was at his peak, why sacrifice any extra picks for that ? really bold hot take since I don't even have to remember it by the time the dude isn't benchwarming
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 19:08 |
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a neat cape posted:I would take the Telesco era a thousand times out of a thousand compared to what the Raiders were doing I still don't think the Reggie era was all that horrible. The337th posted:Penix won't even reach what Carr was at his peak, why sacrifice any extra picks for that ?
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 19:15 |
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Honestly I think every AFC West team drafted pretty well. Nobody had a perfect draft, there were some dart throws, but they all hit positions of need for the most part even if the value was questionable at times. So I'm giving everyone a B+ and everyone passes the class!!!!!!
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 19:25 |
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this conversation suckered me into looking back at past drafts and that just reinforces how pleasantly surprised I'll be if Bowers pans out as good, much less great
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 19:35 |
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I like the Chiefs draft but wish they had picked another WR in the mid rounds some point like Baker or Washington need to push Skyy and Toney as far down the depth chart as possible and we are one Hollywood ankle injury away from them starting
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 20:01 |
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Pron on VHS posted:I like the Chiefs draft but wish they had picked another WR in the mid rounds some point like Baker or Washington need to push Skyy and Toney as far down the depth chart as possible and we are one Hollywood ankle injury away from them starting By just ok they might have a Byron Prigle kind of year if they try hard. More concerned at RB where if Pacheco needs a breath, MEH is taking the field.
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 20:08 |
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I think the Chargers draft was pretty good. I wanted Nabers, but getting the best OL prospect since Sewell is a nice consolation. We've also had good results with middle linebackers named Junior
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The337th posted:this conversation suckered me into looking back at past drafts and that just reinforces how pleasantly surprised I'll be if Bowers pans out as good, much less great Yeah seriously, going by the rule of having to wait 3 years to judge a draft puts us at 2021 and the top 3 rounds have given us: 2021 Alex Leatherwood: F Tre'von Moehrig: B- Malcolm Koonce: C (still questionable) Divine Deablo - C (serviceable LB with a boss name) 2020 Henry Ruggs: F- (murderer of humans and dogs) Damon Arnette: F (loves guns and threatening to murder people) Lynn Bowden Jr: F Tanner Muse: F 2019 Clelin Ferrell: D (decent rotational player, not great for a #4 overall pick as Khalil Mack's successor) Josh Jacobs: A Jonathan Abram: F Trayvon Mullen: D 2018 Kolton Miller: A PJ Hall: F Brandon Parker: D+ Arden Key: D- 2017 Gareon Conley: F Obi Melifonwu: F Eddie Vanderdoes: F 2016 Karl Joseph: D Jihad Ward: F Shilique Calhoun: F 2015 Amari Cooper: A Mario Edwards: D Clive Walford: F 2014 Khalil Mack: A+ Derek Carr: B+ Gabe Jackson: B 2013 DJ Hayden: D- Menelik Watson: F Sio Moore: F 2012 Tony Bergstrom: F I could keep going but this leads to even more depravity when we get deep into the Seabass/Lechler MVP years and I'm not sure I can get through that without a mental breakdown akin to BPP watching the Raiders play the Broncos. Since 2004 the Raiders have drafted exactly 4 elite players in the first 3 rounds of the draft (Jacobs, Mack, Cooper and Miller) and you can even throw in Carr if you're feeling generous enough to include him based on 2016 and the importance of the position which would make 5. Extending it out to all 7 rounds only adds 1 more player in Maxx Crosby. 5 (or 6) elite players chosen in almost 20 years of the NFL draft out of 145 (!!!) selections is absolutely abysmal and anyone presented with this should understand why most of us are okay with Telesco usually nailing the top picks but making GBS threads himself the rest of the draft. Can't believe I wrote that all out, it's like reliving the nightmare. Time to drink beer, eat some BBQ and pass out from mental exhaustion. Black Sunshine fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Apr 28, 2024 |
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a neat cape posted:We've also had good results with middle linebackers named Junior Someone's going to gently caress you up with a bad joke but it won't be me
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 20:49 |
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it's an added bonus that at least half the good-great picks have a sour ending to their Raiders run too, lol The337th fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Apr 28, 2024 |
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I'm sorry friend 😭
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 20:54 |
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Oh my god. Maybe the Reggie era wasn't so good.
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 21:12 |
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LiquidFriend posted:Oh my god. Maybe the Reggie era wasn't so good. 2014 was really propping up his era, and it was nosediving fast after that Gruden-Mayock just did a great job escalating from there
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 21:16 |
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I’m really curious if Chiefs are signing a vet tackle or going let the young guys battle it out. I really like the Chiefs TE and DB picks. Keep taking shots at a Kelce replacement and letting Spags develop guys over a couple years. I want see stack formations with Worthy/Brown.
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 21:21 |
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I could see them bringing back Smith or maybe going for Bakhtiari unless they really think Morris made a big leap. Kingley shouldn't see the field at all this year.
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 21:25 |
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Black Sunshine posted:Yeah seriously, going by the rule of having to wait 3 years to judge a draft puts us at 2021 and the top 3 rounds have given us: This makes me sad in real life. I'm so sorry.
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 21:38 |
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Black Sunshine posted:5 (or 6) elite players chosen in almost 20 years of the NFL draft out of 145 (!!!) selections is absolutely abysmal and anyone presented with this should understand why most of us are okay with Telesco usually nailing the top picks but making GBS threads himself the rest of the draft. So this is what Kadarius Toney looks like spread out over 15 years. Yeah, Telesco's a step up from all this, and that might be the most damning thing about this whole situation.
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 21:42 |
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Black Sunshine posted:Someone's going to gently caress you up with a bad joke but it won't be me His post playing career, were gonna have to watch him
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 21:57 |
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Black Sunshine posted:I could keep going but this leads to even more depravity when we get deep into the Seabass/Lechler MVP years and I'm not sure I can get through that without a mental breakdown akin to BPP watching the Raiders play the Broncos. that pigeon was awesome
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 22:34 |
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this is funny now https://kckingdom.com/posts/chiefs-reportedly-targeting-surprise-prospect-first-round-nfl-draft-01hw82hfxnx8
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solarjetman posted:If Nix doesn't work out, he'll take Payton with him, so root accordingly. Yeah I can't wait to watch this unfold. :popcorn: Don't worry, maybe Falcons will go for the dead money record and release Cousins early and then he'll be ready to Let's Ride.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 13:43 |
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Broncos apparently drafted a runningback with one Magic the Gathering-rear end name
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 17:12 |
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Xavier Worthy's speed is unreal. I knew he was fast but https://twitter.com/RAanalytics/status/1726686134825345506 quote:
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# ? May 3, 2024 21:30 |
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Been seeing a lot of clips on FB reels since I act like a boomer and am not on the Tiktok. Words can't even begin to describe how wild the last decade as a Chiefs fan was. From the puff puff pass rush, Tyreek Hill somehow teleporting through the entire Cowboys Defense right before half-time, MNF vs Rams, 4th down vs Baltimore, ending Luck's career, 13 Seconds, vs the Bangos, this entire last playoff run and every Super Bowl win. Absolutely incredible. Especially knowing there are still years to go with a possibility of 3 in a row.
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# ? May 5, 2024 04:44 |
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i am so happy for you
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# ? May 5, 2024 04:46 |
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Thank you. The Chargers games had a lot of thrillers too.
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LiquidFriend posted:Thank you. The Chargers games had a lot of thrillers too. It seems like Chargers/Chiefs games over the last 15 years have been more fun than they should be
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# ? May 5, 2024 04:58 |
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Chargers / Chiefs battles are about to get a lot more competitive in my opinion. Harbaugh just took my second favorite player in the draft even though he doesn't need him. I was simultaneously annoyed, relieved and...worried. They are going to protect Herbert and run all over teams. It's going to make Herbert more effective when he does pass, it's going to slow games down to make every possession more valuable. I mean, I think they should have drafted Nabers but taking Alt and turning him into one of the best right tackles immediately is weird on value but it also makes the Chargers tough to beat I admit. While I'd be pissed if I was Alt, I have to say I wouldn't be pissed if I'm a Chargers fan. Let's see if they can keep up with the scoring, but still
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# ? May 5, 2024 14:20 |
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I like how the Broncos ended up at 8-9.
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# ? May 5, 2024 16:19 |
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I’m optimistic about this year. We’ve upgraded our server to Bonix.
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# ? May 5, 2024 20:06 |
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kiimo posted:Chargers / Chiefs battles are about to get a lot more competitive in my opinion. Did Herbert start doing State Farm commercials or something?
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# ? May 6, 2024 00:55 |
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MrLogan posted:Did Herbert start doing State Farm commercials or something? Subway
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# ? May 6, 2024 01:13 |
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a neat cape posted:Subway So he'll either end up the most boring human being alive that thinks bell peppers are SPICY or he might be a pedophile. Well that sucks
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# ? May 30, 2024 14:13 |
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I very much love the AFC west right now. Even when teams are dogshit (broncos, raiders, chargers) it’s a fight. Just loving this specific part of my sports life because I get to experience a chiefs dynasty and I genuinely hope that my chargers friends get the same when we are done.
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