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SKULL.GIF posted:Why the gently caress would amputation of a single toe cost $4,000 dollars (551 hours of minimum wage)? it's drastically less than a human equivalent would cost and most vets are comically underpaid as it is for the time and cost involved to become one, plus they have one of the highest suicide rates of any career because they're treated like poo poo techs have it bad too but at least they most likely don't have half a million in debt I'm not saying it's fair but unfortunately having a pet is not a right and it can cost a lot money sometimes. get insurance is the answer
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Apr 28, 2024 23:06
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Homeless Friend posted:harder having one of the front legs, but also makes it so you get incredible rub length I was surprised how fast he adapted but yeah for a big dog like him especially it makes it hard on him. He wears himself out a lot faster. The saddest part was his favorite game at the dog park was wrestling other dogs and god bless him he still tries but now they just slip out from underneath him like nothing happened
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Apr 28, 2024 23:06
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half a million in debt to make $60-80k a year as a GP
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Apr 28, 2024 23:07
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Xaris posted:they should have unionized when they had the chance. now there's no chance if there's 10000 applications for every computer diddler job That wasn't ever happening. Each one drank the kool-aid
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Apr 28, 2024 23:08
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Raskolnikov38 posted:hmmm its almost as if the "fad" majors become fads because capital wishes to lower its outlays on some specific form of labor And then separately, there's signature shortages across most Engineering disciplines. Guess this is what happens when being an Engineering is no longer the path to becoming company CEO. Thanks Boeing!
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Apr 28, 2024 23:13
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Mr Hootington posted:That wasn't ever happening. Each one drank the kool-aid yup
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Apr 28, 2024 23:14
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Raskolnikov38 posted:as someone suffering from universities giving money from humanities to compsci
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Apr 28, 2024 23:18
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triple sulk posted:it's drastically less than a human equivalent would cost and most vets are comically underpaid as it is for the time and cost involved to become one, plus they have one of the highest suicide rates of any career because they're treated like poo poo That's nice, you're replying to a post in the middle of a conversation about how costs have ballooned multiple times thanks to private investment equity, you can't shunt off that insane charge onto "they are underpaid" and "it's cheaper than it would to be slice off a human's toe". How much should a toe amputation cost so vets are paid fairly? $8000? $12,000? $20,000? It's insanely "expensive" to do any medical procedure on a human not because of the actual cost of doing so (or even the cost of doing so combined with compensation for all staff involved) but because of enormous and exorbitant hospital administrative bloat and the private health insurance system allowing charges to spiral upwards out of control. How much of that $4000 is actually going to the veterinarian and the operating costs of the veterinary? triple sulk posted:I'm not saying it's fair but unfortunately having a pet is not a right and it can cost a lot money sometimes. get insurance is the answer Oh yeah bro that'll solve it.
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Apr 28, 2024 23:26
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:This happened in law years ago too. Tons of newly graduated law students couldn't get into practice. anecdotal but I heard from a client that there are many welders without work
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Apr 28, 2024 23:29
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:This happened in law years ago too. Tons of newly graduated law students couldn't get into practice. This narrative is already forming and it's the proof that we've reached the bottom of the barrel since the easily accessible trades jobs are much, much, much lower paying than previous lies. "Go to a boot camp and earn six figgies" is now "go to trade school and you might get lucky and make $50k." The jobs that pay better are harder, don't have the same level of demand, and are typically really vulnerable to boom/bust cycles, which makes high annual pay extremely deceiving. That's not going to change without some New Deal-level government infrastructure investment. edit- something to note is that most of the right-wing idiots who push these ideas are usually better described as small business tyrants and not tradespeople Paradoxish has issued a correction as of 23:45 on Apr 28, 2024 |
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Apr 28, 2024 23:34
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SKULL.GIF posted:How much of that $4000 is actually going to the veterinarian and the operating costs of the veterinary? way more than you think
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Apr 28, 2024 23:35
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What we're really doing is marching towards the normalization of needing a huge number of "side gigs" to make ends meet.
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Apr 28, 2024 23:38
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$25k is obviously an exorbitant number, even $10k is. $2-4k is basically covering the rotational anesthesiologist if they don't have one in house, pre and post op care in a limited space, the actual surgery itself, the vet tech salaries, the surgeon's salary, and any other auxiliary items the worst damage you'll see which I'll fully concede is a ripoff is an e collar where they'll needlessly charge you $40 for it I'm not saying corporate is bad but a lot of hospitals are running on margins right now and they can't charge more or they'll lose clients, and $4k is far from the most obscene charge I've ever seen
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Apr 28, 2024 23:42
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my cat and i both hate the vet
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Apr 28, 2024 23:44
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triple sulk posted:$25k is obviously an exorbitant number, even $10k is. $2-4k is basically covering the rotational anesthesiologist if they don't have one in house, pre and post op care in a limited space, the actual surgery itself, the vet tech salaries, the surgeon's salary, and any other auxiliary items Lol
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Apr 28, 2024 23:45
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triple sulk posted:I'm not saying it's fair but unfortunately having a pet is not a right and it can cost a lot money sometimes. get insurance is the answer the story said that few people get pet insurance bc of its pre-exclusions & low coverage of costs vs. the premiums. think dental insurance for humans.
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Apr 28, 2024 23:47
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hospitals should not be a profit center hth.
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Apr 28, 2024 23:47
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triple sulk posted:I'm not saying corporate is bad but a lot of hospitals are running on margins right now and they can't charge more or they'll lose clients, and $4k is far from the most obscene charge I've ever seen So what makes them such a fantastic investment? [ed] I have a family member who started as a vet tech at a Banfield and is now the facility manager at an independent vet. Everyone actually doing veterinary medicine is underpaid and overstretched for what they do, much like how nurses and FPs are in medicine, but the guys above them are siphoning away an incredible amount of money. BRAKE FOR MOOSE has issued a correction as of 23:52 on Apr 28, 2024 |
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Apr 28, 2024 23:48
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when something goes wrong with the dog you use the Noem Method duh
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Apr 28, 2024 23:48
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Homeless Friend posted:when something goes wrong with the dog you use the Noem Method duh the story called that something like "poverty euthanasia" which struck me as kind of 
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Apr 28, 2024 23:51
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Pets aren't for everyone anymore. They bring happiness to lives and many don't deserve that.
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Apr 29, 2024 00:03
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yeah, capitalists siphoning off veterinary medicine is particularly grim. they've already made life's necessities out of reach for many, and now they're coming for the companionship that provides the small amount of joy people could experience in their lives.
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Apr 29, 2024 00:10
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Apr 29, 2024 00:11
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Plato literally wrote dialogues !!!
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Apr 29, 2024 00:14
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HashtagGirlboss posted:Down a leg but still going strong! I also have a tripod.
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Apr 29, 2024 00:15
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Willa Rogers posted:the story said that few people get pet insurance bc of its pre-exclusions & low coverage of costs vs. the premiums. say one thing about homosapiens but bodies are pretty resilient and generally only less than a third will need major expensive care before their last <10 years of their life.
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Apr 29, 2024 00:21
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Paradoxish posted:This narrative is already forming and it's the proof that we've reached the bottom of the barrel since the easily accessible trades jobs are much, much, much lower paying than previous lies. "Go to a boot camp and earn six figgies" is now "go to trade school and you might get lucky and make $50k." The jobs that pay better are harder, don't have the same level of demand, and are typically really vulnerable to boom/bust cycles, which makes high annual pay extremely deceiving. That's not going to change without some New Deal-level government infrastructure investment. the funny thing is all the right wing tradesmen who push this not realizing they're just going to drive their own wages down lol
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Apr 29, 2024 00:30
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Let's do some arbitrary napkin math for no reason at all. An underpaid medic making, say, I don't know, $90,000 a year comes out to $43/hour. A tech assistant making $75,000 a year comes out to $36/hour. Another specialist making, say, $125,000 a year comes out to $60/hour. Let's quadruple that combined $139/hour so we have plenty of wiggle room to account for building rent/mortgage, medical supplies, pre- and post-care, gently caress I don't know employment insurance, payroll taxes, electric/utilities, etc. That's $556 per hour. How long does it take to amputate a single dog toe?
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Apr 29, 2024 00:45
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$556 per hour is 76 hours and 40 minutes of the federal minimum wage.
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Apr 29, 2024 00:49
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SKULL.GIF posted:How long does it take to amputate a single dog toe? tread tile
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Apr 29, 2024 00:49
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Willa Rogers posted:the story called that something like "poverty euthanasia" which struck me as kind of lmfao
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Apr 29, 2024 00:53
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Shipon posted:the funny thing is all the right wing tradesmen who push this not realizing they're just going to drive their own wages down lol That's because driving wages down has always been an intentional feature of these narratives. Talk to any developer or general contractor and you're absolutely guaranteed to hear about how more people should go into trades or that nobody wants to work anymore because it's all code for "I need cheaper labor."
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Apr 29, 2024 00:59
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A few pages back but alcohol rules, actually
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Apr 29, 2024 01:05
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Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:All these vet posts and no goddam pet pictures. What in the absolute gently caress. Just me and my postin' pals on a rainy Sunday. 
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Apr 29, 2024 01:05
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Xaris posted:yeah we looked into pet insurance and it's really not worth it. many exclusions, low coverage and exemptions. pet insurance is also one of those things if you think about just don't really make sense: they age much faster and are more likely to have health issues (genetic inbreeding, etc) at some point so it's not like you're going to be collecting a lot of premiums over 5+ decades for various low-risk. only great apes get coronary heart disease, the leading human cause of death...often prematurely. they don't need care because they died suddenly.
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Apr 29, 2024 01:24
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sleep with the vicious posted:A few pages back but alcohol rules, actually \ 
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Apr 29, 2024 01:29
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i got a dog she is a good girl 
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Apr 29, 2024 01:35
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post hole digger posted:i got a dog she is a good girl 
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Apr 29, 2024 01:44
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Raskolnikov38 posted:oh well, welcome to my hell computer perverts does vidya games development count as computer touching? asking for a friend
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Apr 29, 2024 01:58
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Just me and my postin' pals on a rainy Sunday. is this two cats in one lap because  mine would never dareanyway the fuckin jobs thing is always going to happen it doesn't matter what field or what specialty your Job is, your function as a wage earner is to get squoze for blood when the time comes. nothing is immune, seeing posters here providing rationale or excuses for X job or Y industry is laughable. the cycle's been done over and over with "Oh THIS industry is safe now, you'll be set for life if you become (a nurse, a lawyer, a spreadsheet wrangler, a doctor)!"
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