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# ? May 21, 2024 17:11 |
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 09:18 |
Waffleman_ posted:EVO Japan ran a Fighting Vipers tournament, but they did it in Judgement lmao RGG does more for game preservation than anyone else in the industry lmao
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 14:44 |
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eventually they'll put sonic 2 & knuckles in an RGG game and i'll never play anything again also speaking of old games i love that outrun and space harrier are basically in every single RGG game since yakuza 0, after the mandatory 1-4 hours of introductory sequences i always beeline to the nearest arcade to slap my names on the high score screen and win a UFO catcher prize and yet i'm loving terrible at outrun? i've never made it past the second leg of the road, and this time when i was hitting it up as homeless Ichiban i realized the sole reason i like it so much is the extremely chill music and the nice sunset high score screen:
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 16:22 |
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Nobody is good at both Outrun and Space Harrier, you can only have the skills for one.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 16:26 |
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 16:27 |
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Finished LAD8. As per usual, they find a way to make me tear up at the ending. I'd definitely say I liked the game, but I'd also say it was pretty dang uneven overall. Maybe it's because we really paced out our playing of the game, but the plot just really didn't work as much for me and the lack of substories was pretty disappointing. I loved the addition of way more of the skits though, and as I'd expect the cast of characters was genuinely great. For LAD9 I mostly just hope the pacing is a bit more even and the villain can be more directly involved with the story. I'd also like to see them space out the whole "getting to know your party members" pieces a little more if that feature returns. I love that you have so many little skits and scenes with them but I think having them all available right away means it's just too easy to do every one of them right away and then have nothing more than the random skits going forwards. Solid game overall, but definitely not my favorite in the series.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 16:36 |
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History Comes Inside! posted:Nobody is good at both Outrun and Space Harrier, you can only have the skills for one. Its true, thank the lords i own at outrun (in my head)
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 19:07 |
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Been playing Ishin recently and really getting addicted to it. Forever amused by all the constant distractions you gotta go through: oh sure I'll meet you for my first day job training, just hang on, gotta help this old man chop logs, and this lady wants me to listen to her stories, and I gotta feed this dog, work at the udon shop, fight these bandits, tend my garden, etc etc. Kinda surprised I'm enjoying it so much: I mean, I like the Yakuza games a lot, but this one seems to be grabbing me a bit more both from a combat and an adventure/sidequest perspective. Wonder if it's the fact that everything has a bar to fill and contributes to virtue, or I think it was a bit quicker to let you off the leash? I wonder. Anyone have any tips for gear and smithing? Not sure how necessary it is to get other swords/guns instead of just enhancing your starters, not sure whether spear/odachi are worth it, and not sure how best to level the smithy (should I just donate a bunch of cheap swords? or disassembly? or crafting?) Also, am I wrong or is Wild Dancer just too good and cool that I'm not even sure it's necessary to use the others? For example, I like swordsman but it's so slow and stiff for the small damage boost it gives comparatively. FutureCop fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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I asked a few pages ago about playing Infinite Wealth without having played any of the others and got a response to play 0 and another to play 7. I see Gaiden also recommended on reddit. I've never had interest in these since I don't play any JRPGs, but I like the Besties podcast and they think 8 will definitely be in their GOTY discussion despite none of them previously being big Yakuza fans. I have Game Pass so I could play 0, 7, or Gaiden easily so would the beginning of one of those be the closest representation to start with to see if I would even like 8? I suppose if I like that I would know if I would like 8, and it would be easier to convince myself to play whichever of those 3 are needed first.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 21:07 |
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KingKapalone posted:I asked a few pages ago about playing Infinite Wealth without having played any of the others and got a response to play 0 and another to play 7. I see Gaiden also recommended on reddit. I've never had interest in these since I don't play any JRPGs, but I like the Besties podcast and they think 8 will definitely be in their GOTY discussion despite none of them previously being big Yakuza fans. 0 is the place to start, but if you're looking to not play a dozen brawlers then 7 was a soft reboot and is the second best place to start. definitely do NOT start with Gaiden or 8, 8 is a direct sequel to 7 and almost totally opaque without knowing the characters/plot of 7, and Gaiden is a kind of vibes sequel to 0-6 and so bursting with fan service to the entire series that starting there would be like watching the last 20 minutes of Return of the King without even really knowing what a hobbit is
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 21:14 |
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7 would probably be the best indication of if you'll like Infinite Wealth because they share a protagonist and combat system, and 7 seems to be kind of a soft-reboot sort of thing because it's a whole new cast that doesn't expect you to know wtf was happening in the previous 6+ games.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 21:14 |
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7 is the only one that’s anything like 8 mechanically, but when you get to 8 half the story is focused on a character with 8 other games worth of story behind him. Chronologically they go 0-7, Gaiden, 8. 0-6 are all about Kiryu, and Gaiden is about what he was up to between 6 and throughout 7 leading in to 8 because 7 is about a whole new cast with a few returning faces in the main story.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 21:15 |
7 is the most like 8 since they're the only ones with Ichiban and with turn based combat, and is the one that got me to try the rest of the series, so I'd say start with 7. It is a slow beginning with a lot of cutscenes so stick with it but it's totally worth it. It really opens up around chapter 4 or 5. My play order has been 7, 0, Kiwami (the remake of the first game), Gaiden, and 8 and honestly it has worked out better than expected I'm sure there's stuff I've missed but the major character work still landed. Solenna fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 21:15 |
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7 might be good to start at if you're new, but holy poo poo if you've been playing along the boss fight in the Omi HQ with Majima and Saejima is the hypest poo poo ever.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 21:50 |
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Still one of the best bits from LAD7: https://twitter.com/137Force/status/1784832091219501466
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 23:25 |
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FutureCop posted:Been playing Ishin recently and really getting addicted to it. Forever amused by all the constant distractions you gotta go through: oh sure I'll meet you for my first day job training, just hang on, gotta help this old man chop logs, and this lady wants me to listen to her stories, and I gotta feed this dog, work at the udon shop, fight these bandits, tend my garden, etc etc. Kinda surprised I'm enjoying it so much: I mean, I like the Yakuza games a lot, but this one seems to be grabbing me a bit more both from a combat and an adventure/sidequest perspective. Wonder if it's the fact that everything has a bar to fill and contributes to virtue, or I think it was a bit quicker to let you off the leash? I wonder. Wild dancer is cool but it sucks for single target damage and does not have good defense. It’s oriented towards crowd control. Best for single target damage is gun which is super good but has no defense and you will be hosed if an enemy gets past your damage and range (output is really good so it’s honestly op anyway because most guys won’t.) swordsman is actually defense oriented. It’s best for bosses because it’s a good balance between output and guarding. Brawler is oriented towards… well there’s not really anything brawler is good at. It’s for completionists really. Theoretically it’s crowd control but worse at it than wild dancer
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 00:04 |
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Mordiceius posted:Still one of the best bits from LAD7: https://twitter.com/137Force/status/1784832091219501466 https://x.com/Beyondroryttv/status/1784959502003163316
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FutureCop posted:Also, am I wrong or is Wild Dancer just too good and cool that I'm not even sure it's necessary to use the others? For example, I like swordsman but it's so slow and stiff for the small damage boost it gives comparatively. The gap definitely widens, you will wanna be using swordsman or gunman for single target eventually because wild dancer just can't keep up. It remains great for AoE and being a slippery little guy, though.
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 00:26 |
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Wolfsheim posted:0 is the place to start, but if you're looking to not play a dozen brawlers then 7 was a soft reboot and is the second best place to start. It's funny because a lot of times sequels will have a sorta like.. "catch you up on what happened in the previous game" segment and man yakuza 8 did not really have that Technically the stories are pretty separate I supposed, but man the intro would be weird if you'd never played 7
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 00:40 |
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Weird Pumpkin posted:It's funny because a lot of times sequels will have a sorta like.. "catch you up on what happened in the previous game" segment and man yakuza 8 did not really have that Did you skip on the option for Ichiban to reflect on the things that happened while he was praying to Arakawa and Masato at the very start of the game? Because he totally summarizes the events of 7 there.
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 09:22 |
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amigolupus posted:Did you skip on the option for Ichiban to reflect on the things that happened while he was praying to Arakawa and Masato at the very start of the game? Because he totally summarizes the events of 7 there. oh geez, tbh I completely forgot about it since it's been months since I played that part you're right yeah
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 13:48 |
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KingKapalone posted:I asked a few pages ago about playing Infinite Wealth without having played any of the others and got a response to play 0 and another to play 7. I see Gaiden also recommended on reddit. I've never had interest in these since I don't play any JRPGs, but I like the Besties podcast and they think 8 will definitely be in their GOTY discussion despite none of them previously being big Yakuza fans. I started with 7 because the trailers for 8 made me really want to play 8 and I don't have a ton of time to get into the whole series. If you start with 7 and go straight to 8 you will miss out on a ton of backstory with one of the characters which I guess you can catch up on later or watch a youtube video. Do not go straight into 8. As for 8 I'm about 55 hours in and I kind of feel like I've spent most of my time playing Pokemon and Animal Crossing. My major complaint so far is having to mash to get sujimon.
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 20:50 |
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I think 8 gives you enough context for Kiryu to get his whole deal, so going straight from 7 to 8 is still fine in my opinion. And really even understanding all the callbacks a lot of his content is very truncated; like its nice to see Sayama again but it's a brief cutscene that glosses over her life even more than 3 did so it's just kind of like...whatever. It doesn't really touch the highs of Gaiden's or even 6's emotional arc and it feels like they did that so as not to alienate new fans so much which I understand but it makes it so anything involving him is very much a B-plot to Ichiban's tropical adventures. If anything playing all the Kiryu games can give you too MUCH context so you'll be like "wait did they really just kill Hanawa in a totally throwaway cutscene wasn't he an important character" and "wait shouldn't Majima have been in this more" and etc etc Wolfsheim fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Apr 30, 2024 |
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I feel like 0/the Kiwamis kind of give a skewed view of how central Majima is to the series, seems like he gets like 10 minutes per game after that.
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Wolfsheim posted:I think 8 gives you enough context for Kiryu to get his whole deal, so going straight from 7 to 8 is still fine in my opinion. And really even understanding all the callbacks a lot of his content is very truncated; like its nice to see Sayama again but it's a brief cutscene that glosses over her life even more than 3 did so it's just kind of like...whatever. Yeah fwiw we haven't played past Yakuza 4 of the original series yet and I thought the Kiryu stuff landed decently well. I'm sure there's some stuff that would've had way more impact, but all the major points still worked for us at least
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 23:48 |
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robot roll call posted:I feel like 0/the Kiwamis kind of give a skewed view of how central Majima is to the series, seems like he gets like 10 minutes per game after that. You say this like the absence of Majima wasn't half the plot of 5.
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 23:54 |
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Whenever Majima isn't on screen the characters should be asking, "Where's Majima?"
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 23:56 |
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Majima is always on screen he's just not always visible.
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 23:57 |
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Featuring Majima more than 20 minutes per game would completely break any semblance of tension the games try to have, so they always bend backwards trying to justify why he's not solving the problems he's more than capable of solving Then again, who knows how many Kiryu Yakuza plots we avoided with him technically being the Tojo captain off-screen for all these years
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 23:57 |
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Whenever majima is not on screen he is running a cabaret
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 23:59 |
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Ainsley McTree posted:Whenever majima is not on screen he is running a construction company
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AlphaKeny1 posted:I started with 7 because the trailers for 8 made me really want to play 8 and I don't have a ton of time to get into the whole series. Did you play any others after 7 and before 8 then or are you saying you are disappointed that you're missing a lot of Kiryu? And yeah I don't have a ton of time. Playing 7 and then 8 looks like it would be almost 100 hours when just the main story meaning it would probably take me like 4 months.
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# ? May 1, 2024 00:58 |
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100 hours for both games combined? Yeah maybe if you’re a speed runner
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# ? May 1, 2024 01:03 |
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Forget if I posted this before, but Ichiban's whole attitude/philosophy reminds me of the scene from the 12 Kingdoms anime where Youko decides that whether someone betrays or wrongs her has no bearing on how she decides to treat them. Amazing show btw, highly recommend it. Dissonance related to the Ichiban Confections stuff aside, I like that "Ichiban is genuinely charismatic in a way that makes people like him" is an established part of his characterization. It's one thing for a protagonist to functionally be charismatic to their allies, or to be charismatic solely based off of their actions/attitude (like Kiryu), but it seems pretty unusual to have a protagonist in a game like this who is just outright "good at interacting with other human beings." He isn't just winning people over with his protagonist behavior - he's also just good at speaking to other random people. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 01:15 on May 1, 2024 |
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He's a big dumb golden retriever and I love him (he is my friend)
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# ? May 1, 2024 01:38 |
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Ytlaya posted:Forget if I posted this before, but Ichiban's whole attitude/philosophy reminds me of the scene from the 12 Kingdoms anime where Youko decides that whether someone betrays or wrongs her has no bearing on how she decides to treat them. Amazing show btw, highly recommend it. goddamn i have not thought about that series in a long time
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Ytlaya posted:Forget if I posted this before, but Ichiban's whole attitude/philosophy reminds me of the scene from the 12 Kingdoms anime where Youko decides that whether someone betrays or wrongs her has no bearing on how she decides to treat them. Amazing show btw, highly recommend it. Yeah, like Kiryu's got incredible presence, but I think if you put him on top of a campaign bus and told him to fight an election he'd absolutely flounder. The part where you're running around Ijinchou with people on the street making comments about how excited they are by Ichiban's campaign was really nice.
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# ? May 1, 2024 02:04 |
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KingKapalone posted:Did you play any others after 7 and before 8 then or are you saying you are disappointed that you're missing a lot of Kiryu? No unfortunately due stuff I was only able to play 7, nearly finish it before FF7 Rebirth, and now I'm on 8 currently. I feel like it might have hit harder to know certain things about Kiryu like he used to run an orphanage? And I just saw a cutscene in Y8 where a little girl shot up people in a bar and that's why he's so invested in saving Lani maybe???? Just started ch7 right now. Y7 took me about 70 hours and I'm trying not to spoil anything but Y8 seems like a 100 hr game. I do want to play the previous entries but I honestly don't think I have the time due to other games/obligations. Looking at Elden Ring dlc after Y8... I might just have some Let's Play on in the background as I work edit: You mentioned not playing a lot of RPGs so I want to say that the RPG elements in 7 and 8 are not amazing by any means but the novelty really carries it. 8 has some improvements but its still not as great as The Good JRPGs™️. Someone in this thread said you're basically playing Dragon Quest and that's largely true plus the weird absurd humor of Yakuza. AlphaKeny1 fucked around with this message at 04:24 on May 1, 2024 |
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70 + 100, that's a lot of game... I played FF7 remake and I think that's the only JRPG I've ever played. I play other RPGs though.
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