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Alchenar posted:Oh yeah I'm not watching Discovery but I can believe the antagonists exist only to provide someone for Burnham to shoot/persuade with an impassioned speech in the finale and are basically unnecessary to the story.
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Cojawfee posted:They aren't good antagonists. They are easily tricked, and magically get away every time, without the macguffin. The only reason why they can keep up is because the writers keep deus ex machinaing them to have magical devices like that time bug. Yeah that was hilarious when they repeatedly said "all the shuttles and escape pods are gone" and then at the end "oh I guess the ISS Enterprise had a "warp pod" (??) hidden away all along" just so Lak and Moll could get away again
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I haven't watched Discovery since S2 because it's terrible, but every so often I skim some of the details posted here. I can't believe the writers are STILL furiously milking the mirror universe. Amazing how out of all the imperial ships to survive 1000 years after the fact, OF COURSE it's the loving ISS Enterprise. So glad I used my warp pod(?) to GTFO as early as I did. Holy poo poo.
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Apr 29, 2024 18:00
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Too bad they couldn't catch up to a escape pod from a 900 year old ship with their infinitely fast starship Though my expectation would actually be the life signs on that pod are fake and Moll and Lak are still hiding on the enterprise. That's what I would do in their situation.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Yeah that was hilarious when they repeatedly said "all the shuttles and escape pods are gone" and then at the end "oh I guess the ISS Enterprise had a "warp pod" (??) hidden away all along" just so Lak and Moll could get away again It's very Dr. Claw. Next time, This season is literally just The Chase stretched over ten hours. I think that's the only reason we even have the antagonists at all but beyond that they don't make sense. Discovery has collected clues they now can't get, has information they can't possibly posses. The chase is over - how are they still involved? Actually wait, how did the time bug thing make sense at all? Did Lak and Moll somehow get the (two?) piece(s) of the map/key thing while Discovery was time looping? Is it going to turn out to not matter at all? Maybe I missed a scene.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Too bad they couldn't catch up to a escape pod from a 900 year old ship with their infinitely fast starship To be fair, that's like expecting a modern automobile to be able to catch up to a Roman chariot. Wait...
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Gollom posted:Actually wait, how did the time bug thing make sense at all? Did Lak and Moll somehow get the (two?) piece(s) of the map/key thing while Discovery was time looping? Is it going to turn out to not matter at all? Maybe I missed a scene.
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The chase can just end now. Starfleet doesn't want to create new life so they don't need to find the rest. They can just lock up the pieces they have forever and then no one can get the tech. Unless that scientist was stupid enough to make it just be a linear search for clues and it doesn't require you to put all the pieces together at the end for the final clue which is that it's hidden under the tree at Starfleet academy that every special boy studies under. They have to contact boothby from beyond the grave, where it is revealed that he was Kirk and Spock's best friend at the academy.
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And here I thought Discovery would pull an Enterprise and git gud at the end, but it still remains Discovery. 
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I gave up on the last season or two. It sounds like this season is semi ridiculous. Does it acknowledge the ridiculousness, in which case I might watch it? If it doesn't know it's ridiculous then that's potentially an issue
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in the six hours where Disco was getting time burped, they showed up at Disco's last known coordinates, found the wormhole, tried to enter it, got their ship torn apart, evacuated to the ISS Enterprise, found the key piece, and holed up in sickbay to either work out an escape plan or hijack whatever Federation officers followed them in I try not to write my own script when the writers forget to do it themselves, but I think this is a pretty straightforward thing to conclude from what they showed on-screen
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Khanstant posted:A Star Trek season does NOT need a villain antagonist, let alone one for the entire season. Would have been very easy for them to simply be racing Klingons or some other group rather group. I guess for that to work there would have to be Klingons in the 32nd century though. Shame they all died out apparently.
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Hell, have it be a friendly race against the Vulcaroms Science Academy
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Ezri said they would, she was right
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T.C. posted:I gave up on the last season or two. It sounds like this season is semi ridiculous. Does it acknowledge the ridiculousness, in which case I might watch it? If it doesn't know it's ridiculous then that's potentially an issue They appear to be deadly serious and earnest about all the crazy poo poo
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Modern Star Trek Megathread: Waves and Waves of Dumb
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Rubber Chicken posted:Waves and Waves of Dumb 
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No one ever remembers the Captain's Yacht. Even the Captain.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:No one ever remembers the Captain's Yacht. Put this up there with transporters and computers in shuttlecraft. Not to mention all the dilithium, deuterium, replicators, weapons, etc,etc And Discovery apparently has more support craft than Voyager (infinite/ writers don't give a poo poo)
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Rubber Chicken posted:And Discovery apparently has more support craft than Voyager (infinite/ writers don't give a poo poo) Canonically, Starfleet has had the ability to fabricate spacecraft entirely on-ship since the late 24th century. I genuinely thought it was hilarious when Prodigy went that route, given how often fans had cracked jokes about how Voyager must have had a shuttle craft replicator.
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This season is significantly better than the last few so far. It’s largely smoothed out its biggest flaws and has been producing some very watchable TV. Its biggest problem is that they decided that the time pressure for the scavenger hunt needed to be antagonists, then wrote some kinda boring ones. The only weak episode so far has, not coincidentally, been the one primarily focused on those antagonists. Also, the last episode took place on the ISS enterprise because the Enterprise sets were right next door and sticking some swords on the wall is very cheap compared to building a new set.
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blastron posted:Also, the last episode took place on the ISS enterprise because the Enterprise sets were right next door and sticking some swords on the wall is very cheap compared to building a new set. Doesn't mean they couldn't have used literally any other ship name.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:No one ever remembers the Captain's Yacht. Lower Decks uses it multiple times!!
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Accipiter posted:Doesn't mean they couldn't have used literally any other ship name. It should always be the ISS Defiant. Every time there's a mirror ship, any place, any time, always the ISS Defiant. Just jutting out in every direction of spacetime
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Brawnfire posted:It should always be the ISS Defiant. Every time there's a mirror ship, any place, any time, always the ISS Defiant. Just jutting out in every direction of spacetime They should of said they were picking up a transponder for the ISS Defiant, then have the DS9 defiant show up do a fun fakeout.
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The Chairman posted:in the six hours where Disco was getting time burped, they showed up at Disco's last known coordinates, found the wormhole, tried to enter it, got their ship torn apart, evacuated to the ISS Enterprise, found the key piece, and holed up in sickbay to either work out an escape plan or hijack whatever Federation officers followed them in Don't forget that the two of them reached Discovery's coordinates and found a way into the wormhole in under 6 hours. Even leaving the dots running for six hours, plus the time before the time bug activated, the dozens of smartypants starfleet officers didn't detect that wormhole at all. They only found it at all because they followed the other guy's ion trail into a dead end. Moll is smarter than an entire crew of experienced officers with a not-quite-omniscient AI. Their ship is faster than a ship that can literally travel anywhere in the galaxy instantly. Their sensors are better than a ship that recently had a complete refit to federation state-of-the-art. gently caress sending them to prison, the federation needs to recruit Moll for their mad scientist program.
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Facebook Aunt posted:gently caress sending them to prison, the federation needs to recruit Moll for their Fixed this for likelihood
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Accipiter posted:Doesn't mean they couldn't have used literally any other ship name. It is on the Enterprise very specifically because it was as best possible lightly undoing or at least offering a little bit of welcome redemption to DS9's absolutely dogshit take on the Mirror Universe
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Moll and Lak are a backdoor pilot pair They want to spin off Star Trek [Most Wanted] like marvel failed to do The fan base demanded more Pike, surely this will be the same!
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Seemlar posted:It is on the Enterprise very specifically because it was as best possible lightly undoing or at least offering a little bit of welcome redemption to DS9's absolutely dogshit take on the Mirror Universe It's lazy writing is what it is. And Discovery has been using the mirror universe as a crutch from the get-go. DS9's handling was dumb and ultra camp but at least the actors had some fun with it. But as a concept it should have began and ended with Mirror, Mirror. I'm praying SNW never touches it.
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Things are going great at Paramount, why do you ask https://twitter.com/annaknicolaou/status/1785047941784199660?s=46&t=BHs6Pl38GJXGN2Y4xeriNA
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The fact they were using the mirror universe for at least the entire first season and that at this point the majority of Trek involving the MU are from Disco, it would be weird to not cap it off with some too.
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Really if they want to do The Chase they should of have multiple antagonists who become allies or betray as the season goes by, that makes it more realistic than two randos know everything and gives multiple ways to have connections beyond those two randos are connected to everyone in the galaxy. Heck, last season they introduced characters trying to take over Emerald Chain remnants, they should be in the mix and easily disposable later in the season for drama.
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I'm pretty sure it was the enterprise because they have the loving sets, it's like free production value
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Facebook Aunt posted:Shimerman is getting a little old for fight scenes. So is Dorn, for that matter. Best to have skilled stuntmen work with him so he doesn't hurt himself. Dorn looks great.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Things are going great at Paramount, why do you ask RIParamount
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Did they fire the CEO for cancelling too many Star Treks?
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They didn’t even bother to threaten the shareholders with Corbomite. Shameful.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:I'm pretty sure it was the enterprise because they have the loving sets, it's like free production value Well, it could've been any Connie.
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MikeJF posted:Well, it could've been any Connie. Now imagine the average Discovery enjoyer But godDAMN is it stupid that Lt Connie-lover played no part and didn't even geek out
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