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JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

toasterwarrior posted:

lorewise ulthuan is basically like elden ring: beautiful, lush temperate climate that is so suffused with magic that it made the wildlife really big and scary

It just stinks like elf. Horrible creatures.

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Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011

Squibbles posted:

a bit of an unusual situation to be fighting an army with zero range or flying units. But still a crazy result. I wonder if the ammo is only for the big main gun or something that wasn't firing much? I dunno

What's the slaanesh and khorne counter to a thunderbarge? chaos furies get shot up and route even if it stands still instead of outrunning them, or it just sits near their own gun line and they clear any flyers off it.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

JBP posted:

It just stinks like elf. Horrible creatures.

that old human saying about someone liking the smell of their own farts? an entire island full of 'em. that smells like elf farts.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

What's the slaanesh and khorne counter to a thunderbarge? chaos furies get shot up and route even if it stands still instead of outrunning them, or it just sits near their own gun line and they clear any flyers off it.

Khorne has Bloodthirsters they could probably take down a Thunderbarge.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
And Slaanesh?

Babylon Astronaut
Apr 19, 2012
Actually the barge wins in a 2v1 against two bloodthirsters.

Rogue AI Goddess
May 10, 2012

I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
That was a joke... unless..?

Jeff the Mediocre posted:

Dumb lore question, but do the chaos lords choose a new name or are they born with it? I thin Archeon chose a new one but Valkia didn't. Does this mean that Mr and Mrs Slaymaim named their child Kilgore? What happens if little Bloodskull decides to worship Tzeentch or decides to go the Empire to worship Shalia as a gently caress you to their parents?
Their 40K counterparts definitely do (the Black Crusade book mentions that "Horus" is a particularly popular choice among new converts to Chaos), so I imagine that the answer is yes.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
Are dwarf balloons available for allied recruitment

TaintedBalance
Dec 21, 2006

hope, n: desire accompanied by expectation of or belief in fulfilment

JBP posted:

The ai doesn't give a poo poo about attrition on any difficulty more or less.

It's still fairly gnarly on them on easy (only 30% resistance), and is something they should pull out into the tweaking tab like they did with stat buffs to the enemy imo, because it is pretty bad in its current implementation. The AI is absolute poo poo about understanding attrition, so giving it some resistance to it just to deal with the "dumb as poo poo" aspect makes sense, but at higher difficulty levels its just a malus against the player and that sucks rear end, in addition to a number of factions pretend that its something you should be using against the AI, which also makes it a player trap. The ultimate game design sin.

As a note, I suspect this is part of why the AI is so bad on the Old World map - you actually need to move across some considerable distances in the map and the AI is soooooooo bad at dealing with bad terrain/corruption.

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

What's the slaanesh and khorne counter to a thunderbarge? chaos furies get shot up and route even if it stands still instead of outrunning them, or it just sits near their own gun line and they clear any flyers off it.

I'd be curious what an aggressive cycle charging of furies could do to them. I've been rethinking harpies/furies since Mercy demonstrated during a livestream the other week that they are crazy effective against towers as long as you cycle charge.

TaintedBalance fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Apr 30, 2024

Dramicus
Mar 26, 2010
Grimey Drawer

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

And Slaanesh?

I'd bet any kind of magic missile spell would be effective especially since it would be shooting up at the barge. Terrain is the bane of magic missile DPS.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
Thunderbarges have 13k hp, are missile spells able to dent that before running out of magic or time before it pays for itself?

Dramicus
Mar 26, 2010
Grimey Drawer

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

Thunderbarges have 13k hp, are missile spells able to dent that before running out of magic or time before it pays for itself?

They usually melt large single targets. It will certainly be better than nothing.

Francis
Jul 23, 2007

Thanks for the input, Jeff.
Just exempt defensive attrition effects like TK/Kislev/Cathay have from the AI reduction.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

And Slaanesh?

Couldn't you just cast pavane of slaanesh on it repeatedly while your speedy little dudes go around making GBS threads on the underwhelming ground forces?

Grumio
Sep 20, 2001

in culina est
Since this DLC introduced Nurgle Chieftains for Tamurkhan, maybe next time we'll get Khorne Colonels

Alctel
Jan 16, 2004

I love snails


Kazzah posted:

No Toddy in ToD?!?!

Massively sad over here bout that

TaintedBalance
Dec 21, 2006

hope, n: desire accompanied by expectation of or belief in fulfilment

Grumio posted:

Since this DLC introduced Nurgle Chieftains for Tamurkhan, maybe next time we'll get Khorne Colonels

Khornel Sanders FLC or bust

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Chickhorne

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
At this point I'm sure Toddy will become playable once they release the Middenheim DLC, considering we know there's another Empire dlc coming.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
Demon units getting +5-15 leadership is exactly what I said they needed, good patch change.

Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 09:19 on Apr 30, 2024

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

Demon units getting +5-15 leadership is exactly what I said they needed, good patch change.

yeah ok johnny patches

Kuiperdolin
Sep 5, 2011

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

ZearothK posted:

Guns, Germs and Steel.

:drat:

Syphilicious!
Jul 26, 2007
When will I be able to download this update?

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Azran posted:

At this point I'm sure Toddy will become playable once they release the Middenheim DLC, considering we know there's another Empire dlc coming.

I often wonder if they'll do themed DLCs like a proper storm of chaos or a proper end times. Just to milk this a bit further.

Scott Forstall
Aug 16, 2003

MMM THAT FAUX LEATHER

Syphilicious! posted:

When will I be able to download this update?

The Steam store usually refreshes at 10am PT, right? I'd imagine then.

Rookersh
Aug 19, 2010

Azran posted:

At this point I'm sure Toddy will become playable once they release the Middenheim DLC, considering we know there's another Empire dlc coming.

I don't see Toddy ( or Red Duke ) coming with a DLC. Both are already ingame, and CA has spoken in the past about how they view taking content that's already been released and reselling it as a red line they won't cross.

I'm also not sure what they'd do in a proverbial Middenheim DLC. The Ulric units that people on Reddit keep yelling about were ( mostly ) kitbashes, they are statistically the same as the Sigmarite units we already have. They just have different furs/weapons on their model. This would also run into serious issues with GW as these units would need to be usable by every current LL, so CA would have to figure out a way for Ulrician units to be fighting for Volkmar in the Southlands.

I think the more realistic approach will be Kurt Helborg LL, Ludwig Schwarzhelm LH, Toddy FLC with a focus on finishing off the various knightly orders/Imperial Foot. Add in a few Ulrician kitbash models of current units you can only use if you own Middenheim and Toddy starts there.

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

TaintedBalance posted:


I'd be curious what an aggressive cycle charging of furies could do to them. I've been rethinking harpies/furies since Mercy demonstrated during a livestream the other week that they are crazy effective against towers as long as you cycle charge.

Assuming they can even catch and attack it, very little unless they can somehow stay in the front/back arcs, which is incredibly unlikely. Any side attack from small fliers just gets shredded fairly quickly by the onboard Thunderers.


JBP posted:

Couldn't you just cast pavane of slaanesh on it repeatedly while your speedy little dudes go around making GBS threads on the underwhelming ground forces?

Didn't they change Rampage a while back, so it triggers at dropping below 75% and 25% HP? Pavane applies the effect, but you still have to somehow deal enough damage to trigger it as well. Also only works twice.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Syphilicious! posted:

When will I be able to download this update?

It's available now.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

OK I bought Thrones of Decay, when does TW2 go on sale, I want that too, chop chop

Arbite
Nov 4, 2009





Also the bundle doesn't show up on the main TWW3 page, you need to click on one of the three individual DLC and scroll down to find it.

kanonvandekempen
Mar 14, 2009

StrixNebulosa posted:

OK I bought Thrones of Decay, when does TW2 go on sale, I want that too, chop chop

If you're anxious to try that game's races (lizardmen, skaven, high and dark elves), you should just buy one of the expansions for those races so you get the extra units from those expansions. Queen and the Crone (high and dark elves) is currently less than €6 at indiegala, and Prophet and the Warlock (best skaven dlc + lizardmen) is €7.5 at Gambebillet, so for about €12 you can get all 4 races of TW:WH2, plus the extra DLC units.

To clarify: you don't need to own the base game to play that game's base races.

kanonvandekempen fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Apr 30, 2024

ScootsMcSkirt
Oct 29, 2013

im guessing there will be a total warhammer sale when steam updates to the new day, so id hold off until then

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Lord Koth posted:


Didn't they change Rampage a while back, so it triggers at dropping below 75% and 25% HP? Pavane applies the effect, but you still have to somehow deal enough damage to trigger it as well. Also only works twice.

I haven't played Slaanesh for a while, but pavane of slaanesh used to cause the unit to rampage. I don't recall it needing other boxes ticked as that was the whole point of the spell.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Says I can buy the DLC now on down under time

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Link to the bundle: https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/39887/Total_War_WARHAMMER_III__Thrones_of_Decay/

I do not regret giving CA 23$ for more content n' stuff, I've gotten at least that much enjoyment out of this trailer's music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv4sOuRWIT0

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

kanonvandekempen posted:

If you're anxious to try that game's races (lizardmen, skaven, high and dark elves), you should just buy one of the expansions for those races so you get the extra units from those expansions. Queen and the Crone (high and dark elves) is currently less than €6 at indiegala, and Prophet and the Warlock (best skaven dlc + lizardmen) is €7.5 at Gambebillet, so for about €12 you can get all 4 races of TW:WH2, plus the extra DLC units.

To clarify: you don't need to own the base game to play that game's base races.

Noted! We'll see what goes on sale first, I am not made of enough money to buy all of my missing DLC without sales.

Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.
Love this unbundled bundle. I will prob never play Nurgle, so way better for me to get Malakai and then maybe Elspeth down the road.

Just a shame I didn't finish my Tiktaq'to campaign before the siren song of Spirit of Grungi appeared.

DaysBefore
Jan 24, 2019
Yeah it seems like a better option. Plenty of DLCs with lords I've never played. It is poo poo if you decide later you want all three after all but oh well

house of the dad
Jul 4, 2005

I'm happy to jump back in. The whole Shadows of Change debacle killed my interest in the game for a while, but it looks like CA has made a genuine effort to improve their communication and actually make something that people want to buy.

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Anno
May 10, 2017

I'm going to drown! For no reason at all!

The three packs are currently 9, 10 and 11 in the global revenue ranks so I assume most people are buying the bundle.

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