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There was also a pretty clear allusion to Matthew Shepard with Bastion's line: "Who knows, maybe a mutant flirts with one of them at a local dive bar". That was in 1998, so it does line up with the year the show is taking place in. I can't imagine the OG cartoon would've made such a clear reference to it when it was so recent though. And while what Magneto did is pretty drat extreme, at least they didn't take the Ultimate Comics approach which was waaay worse. And that's what immediately jumped into my head until I saw it all play out and I was like holy poo poo, they're really going there?! Gavok posted:There's all this talk in this thread about a continuation of the Spider-Man cartoon, but they DID continue it with Spider-Man Unlimited... and... ...I remember liking Spider-Man Unlimited. But then again I was a kid and I liked just about everything I watched.
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I don't have a lot to add to what people have been saying, I just wanted to chime in with holy poo poo, this show keeps being so incredibly good. That may be the best episode yet, it's either this or episode 5 (probably 5 for how much of a game changer it was, but god drat this was good). I thought I was getting bored with Marvel stuff. Turns out I was bored with boring Marvel stuff.
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No bad notes. No myth notes. We are in balls to the wall X-Men craziness and social commentary territory and I love it. I don’t know just how aware and ironic the writers are being with the source material and current right conspiracy theories…but, Bastion and Prime Sentinels are the “transhumanist agenda” Alex Jones thinks the ‘globalists’ are pushing.
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May 1, 2024 16:08
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loving Harmony, Pennsylvania, lmao. Chosen because they were able to draw every single person who lives there, surely. This show is supposed to be low-effort millenial bait, why is it so loving good???
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NowonSA posted:There was also a pretty clear allusion to Matthew Shepard with Bastion's line: "Who knows, maybe a mutant flirts with one of them at a local dive bar". God drat, I didn't even pick up on that. It is *insane* what they're managing to do with this quasi-reboot of a Saturday morning cartoon series Adrianics fucked around with this message at 16:57 on May 1, 2024 |
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May 1, 2024 16:52
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Another 'What if...' reference: Beast mentions Absolute Points in time from 'What If Dr. Strange Lost His Heart Instead of His Hands'.
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Skios posted:Also, I wonder if this episode puts an end to the theory that dr. Cooper is Mystique in disguise. Towards the end of her speech she says something like running from giant robot meant to crush you, not them. So still possible?
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Wondering the same thing. It will probably turn out that whatever she is doing undercover is so important she couldn't even risk blowing it then.
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Technowolf posted:Another 'What if...' reference: Beast mentions Absolute Points in time from 'What If Dr. Strange Lost His Heart Instead of His Hands'.
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Dr. Cooper is clearly Mephisto.
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Technowolf posted:Dr. Cooper is clearly Mephisto. 
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King Of Coons posted:Towards the end of her speech she says something like running from giant robot meant to crush you, not them. So still possible? I mean, the Prime Sentinels are pretty lovely if they can't detect her
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Yeah, she's not hiding from super sentinels, Mr Sinister and Bastion.
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Sockser posted:loving Harmony, Pennsylvania, lmao. Chosen because they were able to draw every single person who lives there, surely. Good? They missed the opportunity to have Bastion being driven insane by Harmony's weird one handed apocalypse clock.
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I can't believe Bastion's dad got the same treatment as the dad from Batman Beyond.
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Technowolf posted:Dr. Cooper is clearly Mephisto. God, keep her away from Spider-Man then.
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As much as I've railed against attempts to tie this to the MCU specifically, I do think the use of Absolute Points in time was deliberately using that established concept from the MCU to basically say 'yo, we ain't undoing poo poo via time travel'. I do wonder, though, if the White Hot Room might not end up being a thing.
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Gaz-L posted:As much as I've railed against attempts to tie this to the MCU specifically, I do think the use of Absolute Points in time was deliberately using that established concept from the MCU to basically say 'yo, we ain't undoing poo poo via time travel'. Showrunner is saying exactly that. https://x.com/BeauDemayo/status/1785566156449087524
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He also said to watch One Man's Worth, so I'm thinking "to get us out of this one" is doing some heavy lifting there. There's gonna be time travel, it's just gonna make things worse. Yay, we saved Gambit! Boo, it's now the Age of... uh, Mr. Sinister?
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Defiance Industries posted:He also said to watch One Man's Worth, so I'm thinking "to get us out of this one" is doing some heavy lifting there. There's gonna be time travel, it's just gonna make things worse. Doesn't really roll off the tongue, does it. But with the global EMP attack which apparently is part of the arc where Wolverine gets his adamantium torn out an Magneto gets lobotomized by Prof X, people are predicting Onslaught for next season.
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Defiance Industries posted:He also said to watch One Man's Worth, so I'm thinking "to get us out of this one" is doing some heavy lifting there. There's gonna be time travel, it's just gonna make things worse. This is why he said to watch One Man's Worth. https://x.com/BeauDemayo/status/1785680344819319237 That's Bastian's dad. And this, which I'll put in a url because the description he posts is a spoiler. https://www.twitter.com/BeauDemayo/status/1785678276503236678
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Really great cameos in this episode from other Marvel characters but there was one villain I didn't recognize: After Dr Doom says his thing to Bastion, another guy appears on a different screen who looks to be wearing a black mask and outfit with shoulder spikes or something? edit: this guy, who is he?  VVV - Thank you 
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Turpitude posted:Really great cameos in this episode from other Marvel characters but there was one villain I didn't recognize: Zemo. VA is even doing a passable Daniel Bruhl.
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Turpitude posted:Really great cameos in this episode from other Marvel characters but there was one villain I didn't recognize: That's Baron Zemo 
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Fair to say they are not constrained to what the old cartoon could do. Well over a TV half hour and even an actual half hour. You used to get away with chopping up Foot Soldiers and such by making them robots, does that still count when they were very recently humans? Either way we saw a lot of people die. And with them pulling back from post-2000 stuff after the fall of Genosha I'm wondering does "Magneto was right" present the possibility of Quentin showing up? Obviously they pulled out Emma in her Diamond form last week but seem to have cut off any strife (partial pun) between Scott and Jean for the time being. Maybe a slow burn into Morrison stuff once they're rebuilding from however this season resolves? Did they ever sell the t-shirt? Hope they do this time. BizarroAzrael fucked around with this message at 20:21 on May 1, 2024 |
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Turpitude posted:Really great cameos in this episode from other Marvel characters but there was one villain I didn't recognize: Baron Zemo is the guy with the mask and the fur on his shoulders. No idea who the woman after was, Madame Masque or something perhaps. Edit: I was way slow.
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This show has been, by and large, dramatically better than it has any right to be. This week's episode was haunting given the backdrop of the shocking apathy displayed globally to the plight of Palestinians, and the whole "They weren't surprised" speech hit me like a freight train. Every episode has been surprising me with how lovingly crafted and straight up respectful this show is to the intent of the source material, and I really hope that this quality holds through the finale.
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thebardyspoon posted:Baron Zemo is the guy with the mask and the fur on his shoulders. No idea who the woman after was, Madame Masque or something perhaps. DeMayo said she was just a nameless human UN rep to show that the UN were full of poo poo
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BizarroAzrael posted:Fair to say they are not constrained to what the old cartoon could do. Well over a TV half hour and even an actual half hour. You used to get away with chopping up Foot Soldiers and such by making them robots, does that still count when they were very recently humans? Either way we saw a lot of people die. In the show, the sign they showed in Genosha said Magneto is Right. The shirts happened post Genosha in the comics. It would be great if Quentin showed up but I don't see how you can do that this season. His initial plot doesn't work without the school having a decent sized student body. It always makes me laugh the first time the school had a decent sized student body was the Morrison era.
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  I definitely didn't see this, credit to a far more observant person on CBR for pointing out this copying from the films.
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NikkolasKing posted:Doesn't really roll off the tongue, does it. I'd be up to see the show's take on that next season. I expect that particular issue wouldn't be resolved just by fighting, but man I'd enjoy seeing a full 10+ minute fight involving the x-men and that character.
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thrawn527 posted:Showrunner is saying exactly that. Says nothing about the multiverse tho!
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What an episode. I may have yelled when Dr Doom and then Spider Man showed up.
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How is ever episode of this an A+? I like how everyones slowly getting modern costumes, though Jubes actually buys hers, Logan is just wearing it. Sinister going "I am just using Bastion" reminded me of all those villain team ups where they're just looking to betray each other./spoiler] Also in the flash forward [spoiler] I think thats the first time Rachael Grey/Summers has appeared?
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I would like Quire, and Necrosha in future seasons.
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Bastion/Prime Sentinel talk Nobody here really believes Bastion that all the Prime Sentinels were members, even unwitting ones, of his little hate group, right? His old-rear end mom was on some AOL chat room bitching about muties? Trish, who was there to apologize to Hank for her insensitivity, went to a meeting of bigots to join up? Sure, some of them were probably did join up with an anti-mutant group and were forced into this scientific horror, but it seems just as likely many were just plain abducted and used for convenience.
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I assume back in the 90's Magnus was a survivor of an ambiguous atrocity rather than explicitly the Holocaust for both character age and kids broadcast reasons? Pretty far from name dropping Mengele. And sort of ambiguously European and not necessarily every name Erik Lehnshurr? Do we still think Val Cooper is Mystique? I thought she might reveal herself to Bastion but obviously not yet. With her being referenced so much and having since had a redemption I figured they might get her involved. Could just be she just privately reflects on things to the audience before electing not to directly involve herself in Rogue and Kurt's lives right now. BizarroAzrael fucked around with this message at 23:05 on May 1, 2024 |
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