rotor posted:

in 1998 or whatever getting apache running on windows was not the simplest thing ever

rotor posted:

which is the real reason he couldn't stand up a simple webservice without a lot of effort, leading him to just roll his own telnet clone

rotor posted:

in 1998 or whatever getting apache running on windows was not the simplest thing ever

gschmidl posted:

He also did not do that.

Beeftweeter posted:

no but you could use frontpage (which iirc came with office at the time) to spin up a pseudo-IIS instance lol, even on 9x

i wonder if they were using NT (knowing elon, probably not). but if so NT 4 had a pretty easy to use server edition too

DarkSol posted:

didn't he get ousted from paypal because he insisted on running the backend on Windows NT instead of Linux?

Cat Face Joe posted:

4lokos basilisk posted:

not sure it was nt specifically but he did insist windows to be supreme because all the games ran on windows therefore it was the better os

some kinda jackal posted:

but it... is a dumpster

Jonny 290 posted:

I know this is a wild, controversial take - and may get me in trouble - but I do not in fact think elon is 'good with computers' at all.

Jonny 290 posted:

I know this is a wild, controversial take - and may get me in trouble - but I do not in fact think elon is 'good with computers' at all.

FAUXTON posted:

is boeris carbomb still playing his mummy on twitter

Jonny 290 posted:

I know this is a wild, controversial take - and may get me in trouble - but I do not in fact think elon is 'good with computers' at all.

4lokos basilisk posted:

not sure it was nt specifically but he did insist windows to be supreme because all the games ran on windows therefore it was the better os

rotor posted:

in 1998 or whatever getting apache running on windows was not the simplest thing ever

Beeftweeter posted:

no but you could use frontpage (which iirc came with office at the time) to spin up a pseudo-IIS instance lol, even on 9x

i wonder if they were using NT (knowing elon, probably not). but if so NT 4 had a pretty easy to use server edition too

DaTroof posted:

istr running o'reilly website on win95 without reading whitepapers or emulating cisco routers around 1998

gschmidl posted:

He also did not do that.

Beeftweeter posted:

no but you could use frontpage (which iirc came with office at the time) to spin up a pseudo-IIS instance lol, even on 9x

infernal machines posted:

i actually ran an apache server on windows in 1998, as a 13 year old. assuming you were functionally literate and had a grade school education, it was possible to do on 9x and nt4

it just wasn't point and click and you had to manually edit your httpd.conf

rotor posted:

implementing a lovely telnet is insanely easy

4lokos basilisk posted:

isn’t http on port 80 by default/convention though?

rotor posted:

really? maybe i'm remembering dates wrong.

shackleford posted:

this was back in the HTTP/0.9 / HTTP/1.0-draft days when the early commercial internet was the total wild west, people can and did run production web poo poo on port 8080. you just stick the :8080 in the URL and it works

especially since name-based virtual hosting (Host header is HTTP/1.1) and Server Name Indication didn't come until much later

that reminds me, this was also years before people figured out you could do crazy poo poo like use browsers to send spam by connecting directly to port 25

https://www-archive.mozilla.org/projects/netlib/portbanning

4lokos basilisk posted:

right, but you did not go to google.com:8080, you went to google.com, meaning that there was a thing - some kind of web thing, that served your computer a response based on the http request it sent out, listening on port 80 somewhere in the google datacenter

not sure elons made up brag stories are worth this much attention to detail, though

shackleford posted:

this was back in the HTTP/0.9 / HTTP/1.0-draft days when the early commercial internet was the total wild west, people can and did run production web poo poo on port 8080. you just stick the :8080 in the URL and it works

especially since name-based virtual hosting (Host header is HTTP/1.1) and Server Name Indication didn't come until much later

that reminds me, this was also years before people figured out you could do crazy poo poo like use browsers to send spam by connecting directly to port 25

https://www-archive.mozilla.org/projects/netlib/portbanning

quote:

Exclusive: Tesla retreats from next-generation ‘gigacasting’ manufacturing process

AUSTIN, Texas, May 1 (Reuters) - Tesla (TSLA.O), opens new tab has backed away from an ambitious plan for innovations in gigacasting, its pioneering manufacturing process, according to two sources familiar with the matter, in another sign that the electric-vehicle maker is retrenching amid falling sales and rising competition.

Tesla has been a leader in gigacasting, a cutting-edge technique that uses huge presses with thousands of tons of clamping pressure to die-cast large sections of the car’s underbody. On a typical vehicle, the underbody can consist of hundreds of individual parts.

Last year, as Tesla developed a new small-vehicle platform, it aimed to punch out the underbody in a single piece, Reuters exclusively reported last September, citing five sources familiar with the automaker’s gigacasting operations. The long-term goal was to radically simplify manufacturing and slash costs.

But Tesla has since halted the effort, opting to stick with its more proven method of casting vehicle underbodies in three pieces: two gigacasted front and rear sections and a midsection made of aluminum and steel frames to store batteries, according to the two sources familiar with the matter. That is largely the same three-piece method the company has used for its last two new models, the Model Y crossover SUV and the Cybertruck pickup.

Tesla’s retreat from one-piece gigacasting has not been previously reported. The automaker did not respond to a request for comment.
The decision to hold off on the potential manufacturing breakthrough marks another example of Tesla slashing short-term spending as it adjusts to falling sales and profit margins, softening EV demand globally, and intensifying competition from rival EV makers such as China’s BYD (002594.SZ), opens new tab.

4lokos basilisk posted:

right, but you did not go to google.com:8080, you went to google.com, meaning that there was a thing - some kind of web thing, that served your computer a response based on the http request it sent out, listening on port 80 somewhere in the google datacenter

not sure elons made up brag stories are worth this much attention to detail, though

Pinterest Mom posted:

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-retreats-next-generation-gigacasting-manufacturing-process-2024-05-01/

rotor posted:

i had not heard of this process before and maybe you hadnt either so heres a thing
https://www.spglobal.com/mobility/en/research-analysis/gigacasting-the-hottest-trend-in-car-manufacturing.html

tl;dr basically huge, really complex aluminum castings instead of a bunch of subassemblies. sounds neat until you think of what happens if part of the casting is damaged.

Endless Mike posted:

surprise surprise there's a reason no one has bothered

Nfcknblvbl posted:

tesla's been an american ploy to bait china into poor manufacturing techniques all along, masterful

rotor posted:

i had not heard of this process before and maybe you hadnt either so heres a thing
https://www.spglobal.com/mobility/en/research-analysis/gigacasting-the-hottest-trend-in-car-manufacturing.html

tl;dr basically huge, really complex aluminum castings instead of a bunch of subassemblies. sounds neat until you think of what happens if part of the casting is damaged.

rotor posted:

tl;dr basically huge, really complex aluminum castings instead of a bunch of subassemblies. sounds neat until you think of what happens if part of the casting is damaged.