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Bleck posted:You can also just not greet people
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My experience with the boycott so far is that I can either shop at stores with produce that's clean and more expensive, or cheaper and probably moldy. I've chosen the former (Smiths) and I'm probably gonna take the opportunity to try to learn to bake bread myself, finally. Also yeah already seeing a lot of folks like "it's no trouble for me drive an extra two minutes," but as A Poor, the stores I'm now shopping at are an extra twenty minutes of walk on top of the twenty it already took to get to the Superstore. It's not great.
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May 2, 2024 17:04
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I mean yeah if you have no options nobody should shame you but I have a costco next door to the shoppers drug mart so I know which place I want to get my $1000 per month drugs from
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May 2, 2024 17:50
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Mr. Mercury posted:In a pinch, you can also just say " 'sup jerks" Stay fresh, cheese bags!
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May 2, 2024 18:01
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Mederlock posted:Hell even T&T is owned by Loblaws Noooooooooooooo
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May 2, 2024 18:35
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*better-than-you voice*: I've been shopping almost exclusively at a locally owned grocers for the last twenty years. 
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May 2, 2024 19:16
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TheKingofSprings posted:I mean yeah if you have no options nobody should shame you It's less about shame and more about acknowledging the kind of solution that relies on placing further difficulty on the kind of people that suffer from the problem the most. A person I know lives close to the Superstore specifically because it's the most convenient option for them for both grocery and pharmacy that involves the fewest bus trips (she's in a wheelchair). She's participating in the boycott. While I admire her commitment, I can't help but feel a little bit bitter when people talk about how easy it is to just drive somewhere else. I don't know - I feel like a lot of my political existence is just alternating between politely and sardonically reminding people that poor people exist.
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May 2, 2024 19:34
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Bleck posted:I can't help but feel a little bit bitter when people talk about how easy it is to just drive somewhere else. I'm just going to say you're a bit silly to feel bitter. "It's easy to drive somewhere else" applies to a decent amount of the target demographic of the people asking others to help with a boycott. I really don't think the intent is to ignore poor people who lack options, as numerous times i've seen people talk about the boycott it's presented alongside "can't boycott? participate by doing the following instead:"
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May 2, 2024 19:40
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"The company also owns the Asian-focused T&T Supermarket, Zehrs, Valu-Mart, Provigo, No Name, Your Independent Grocer, City Market, Fortinos, Wholesale Club, Maxi, Extra Foods and Dominion Stores in Newfoundland and Labrador." I love how a giant monopoly owns a chain called "your independent grocer". I guess names don't legally have to be truthful.
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May 2, 2024 19:41
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Oxyclean posted:I really don't think the intent is to ignore poor people who lack options, as numerous times i've seen people talk about the boycott it's presented alongside "can't boycott? participate by doing the following instead:" I haven't seen anything like this, if you could share it so I can also spread it around I would appreciate it.
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May 2, 2024 19:45
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Bleck posted:I haven't seen anything like this, if you could share it so I can also spread it around I would appreciate it. This is what I saw on reddit earlier today: 
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May 2, 2024 19:54
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Bleck posted:I can't help but feel a little bit bitter No, you’re kidding
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TheKingofSprings posted:No, you’re kidding 
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If Trudeau nationalized Loblaws I wouldn't think twice about pulling that lever for the red team
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Mr. Mercury posted:If Trudeau nationalized Loblaws I wouldn't think twice about pulling that lever for the red team
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TheKingofSprings posted:I mean yeah if you have no options nobody should shame you but I have a costco next door to the shoppers drug mart so I know which place I want to get my $1000 per month drugs from
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Albino Squirrel posted:Costco apparently pays their employees better and has better benefits than any other large food retailer. Does this mean that buying their hot dogs counts as praxis? Yes.
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May 2, 2024 21:54
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Costco is cool and good and people can make a living working there as a career rather than a job. A reminder that before vulture capitalists tore it to pieces, Sears was a lifetime gig for some people. They even paid good pensions.
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May 2, 2024 22:03
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Bleck posted:It's less about shame and more about acknowledging the kind of solution that relies on placing further difficulty on the kind of people that suffer from the problem the most. I wouldn't assume a slogan tailored specifically at drivers is deliberately ignoring those who aren't one Bleck what-abouting a simple clear statement, smh I would have thought you of all canpol would be more careful
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Blood Boils posted:Bleck what-abouting "What-abouting" is a fake fallacy. Kraftwerk posted:A reminder that before vulture capitalists tore it to pieces, Sears was a lifetime gig for some people. They even paid good pensions. When Sears went under the Best Buy I worked at hired the local Sears' GM as the new GM, and the first thing she did was find reasons to fire me and all of the other technicians in the Geek Squad that had actual knowhow but weren't so good at selling their crappy subscription service. I know it's not right but I mentally blame Sears for this
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Mr. Mercury posted:If Trudeau nationalized Loblaws I wouldn't think twice about pulling that lever for the red team I think the best we can do is nationalize losses and privatize profits. Is that acceptable?
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I have zero faith this boycott will do anything. Weston has a monopoly on food distribution and when people realize just how inconvenient it is not to shop at his stores they’ll come crawling back and they’ll pay another 5-10% for what’s on offer. That said I still hope it works out. We definitely need to stick it to him.
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May 2, 2024 22:43
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Kraftwerk posted:We definitely need to stick it to him. It only takes one pike.
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Albino Squirrel posted:Costco apparently pays their employees better and has better benefits than any other large food retailer. Does this mean that buying their hot dogs counts as praxis? Actually yes, yes it does
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Kraftwerk posted:I have zero faith this boycott will do anything. Weston has a monopoly on food distribution and when people realize just how inconvenient it is not to shop at his stores they’ll come crawling back and they’ll pay another 5-10% for what’s on offer. Is Loblaws a much more dominant force out east? Here in Alberta it would be trivial to avoid, you just go buy groceries at the Kodos chain (Empire; Sobeys, Safeway, etc.), or Costco.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Here in the GTA you have Metro or Loblaws brands, and if you live in Toronto proper, maybe a mom and pop grocer that has somehow survived the last two decades and will either disappear when the people who started it die or be subsumed into one of those two. Also, Rabba, which is neither cheaper nor better than any other option, but exists.
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PittTheElder posted:Is Loblaws a much more dominant force out east? Here in Alberta it would be trivial to avoid, you just go buy groceries at the Kodos chain (Empire; Sobeys, Safeway, etc.), or Costco. Or SaveOnFoods, from the other large grocery group. Or Co-Op. In fact, I’d have to go out of my way to find a Loblaws-affiliated store.
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infernal machines posted:Here in the GTA you have Metro or Loblaws brands, and if you live in Toronto proper, maybe a mom and pop grocer that has somehow survived the last two decades and will either disappear when the people who started it die or be subsumed into one of those two. Also, Rabba, which is neither cheaper nor better than any other option, but exists. Hey now, we also have the third leg of the triopoly, Sobeys/Freshco. e: part of the not at all ominously named Empire Company Glimpse fucked around with this message at 02:31 on May 3, 2024 |
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what happens when your 15-minute city's amenities fall out of favour?!?
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They get a badass pirate with a giant white moustache to come to the middle of your city, break it apart, and turn it into suburbs connected by highways. (I'm so sorry)
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PittTheElder posted:Is Loblaws a much more dominant force out east? Here in Alberta it would be trivial to avoid, you just go buy groceries at the Kodos chain (Empire; Sobeys, Safeway, etc.), or Costco. It’s really bad here. And loblaws rules the most convenient places. Basically in my immediate vicinity, everything is a loblaws brand. I have a superstore, a no frills, Fortinos and T&T. There is Longos a block away from me but they are even more expensive than Loblaw stores. The Longo brothers don’t play. If I drive farther out I have Costco, Coppas (formerly highland farms, formerly Knob Hill farms before that). Any of you GTA people remember Knob hill farms? They were the ultimate free laundry hamper supplier of the GTA.
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There's Farm Boy here and there but they're owned by Sobeys
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infernal machines posted:Here in the GTA you have Metro or Loblaws brands, and if you live in Toronto proper, maybe a mom and pop grocer that has somehow survived the last two decades and will either disappear when the people who started it die or be subsumed into one of those two. Also, Rabba, which is neither cheaper nor better than any other option, but exists. There's... A ton of Chinese chain brands (Bestco) and ethnic supermarkets in general. I don't know what part of the GTA this is about but it's not true in North Etobicoke Now SOUTH Etobicoke is where I guess things are bad. Anywhere without new immigrants is probably loblawland Isentropy fucked around with this message at 03:39 on May 3, 2024 |
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Isentropy posted:There's... A ton of Chinese chain brands (Bestco) and ethnic supermarkets in general. I don't know what part of the GTA this is about but it's not true in North Etobicoke. However it would be easy to miss fortinos and no frills are both in fact Sobeys brand You mean Loblaws - Fortinos and No Frills are both Loblaws, not Sobeys.
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In my part of Montréal there are just IGAs around, and I didn't realize until this conversation that they're a Sobeys joint in this province. I think the nearest Loblaws-owned place is the third-closest pharmacy, to get to an actual grocery store of theirs I'd need to take transit instead of walking. Not sure one of their stores has ever been the most convenient option in my near twenty years of living here in various neighbourhoods.
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Gully Foyle posted:You mean Loblaws - Fortinos and No Frills are both Loblaws, not Sobeys. Correct, I screwed up in the post
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Isentropy posted:There's... A ton of Chinese chain brands (Bestco) and ethnic supermarkets in general. I don't know what part of the GTA this is about but it's not true in North Etobicoke Who owns Oceans?
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McGavin posted:Yeah, it's much worse in Ontario than it was in BC. Tbh BC is so much in the iron grip of Pattison Foods that if we had more Loblaws it would actually increase competition substantially (except that it doesn't seem to matter). Standing at Main and Broadway in Vancouver and the nearest groceries are Nestors and Buy Low Foods, both Pattison. A few blocks south is Save on Foods, also Pattison. A few blocks north at Olympic Village is the Urban Fare, also Pattison. You need to go all the way to Commercial Drive to find non-Pattison with Safeway and in the other direction to Cambie, where there's a No Frills (Loblaws), Whole Foods (Amazon) and Save on (Pattison).
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infernal machines posted:Here in the GTA you have Metro or Loblaws brands, and if you live in Toronto proper, maybe a mom and pop grocer that has somehow survived the last two decades and will either disappear when the people who started it die or be subsumed into one of those two. Also, Rabba, which is neither cheaper nor better than any other option, but exists. My best alternative is Whole Foods, which is better albeit not necessarily cheaper. Sticking it to Galen Weston Jr by buying Bezos instead feels a little hollow, though.
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