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a tesla would be cool if it werent for all the extraneous bullshit but thats every car eventually some tuner's going to figure out how to reflash/jailbreak the whole car, right? is that even possible? Cactus Ghost fucked around with this message at 15:59 on May 2, 2024 |
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Cactus Ghost posted:a tesla would be cool if it werent for all the extraneous bullshit Yeah that was my conclusion as well - if Tesla took their current powertrain but wrapped it in the feel of a 1980s or 1990s Toyota with a similar price tag, that'd be perfect. But no, we get sci-fi bullshit. Cactus Ghost posted:eventually some tuner's going to figure out how to reflash/jailbreak the whole car, right? is that even possible? Its already been done, effectively.
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May 2, 2024 16:00
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yeah, it's been done to a point, but when tesla finds out that you're doing it they remotely disable a whole pile of your car's features
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May 2, 2024 16:02
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Sagebrush posted:yeah, it's been done to a point, but when tesla finds out that you're doing it they remotely disable a whole pile of your car's features Someone will likely figure out a way to disable the transciever and how to turn those back on. Their firmware is junk and insecure, so its just a matter of time.
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May 2, 2024 16:04
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Sagebrush posted:yeah, it's been done to a point, but when tesla finds out that you're doing it they remotely disable a whole pile of your car's features so what's the downside or is it like, they put your poo poo in limp mode
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May 2, 2024 16:04
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Cactus Ghost posted:or is it like, they put your poo poo in limp mode The target demographic is already well versed in having their poo poo in limp mode.
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May 2, 2024 16:08
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Nitrox posted:In my state, insurance cancellation triggers an automatic report to the DOT, who in turn, will cancel registration if updated insurance info is not provided within a short timeframe. drat that's good, does your state have a low rate of uninsured drivers due to this?
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May 2, 2024 16:53
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As another motorist on the road, I'm not sure some jailbroken poo poo is better or worse than the factory firmware.
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cursedshitbox posted:The target demographic is already well versed in having their poo poo in limp mode.  
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May 2, 2024 19:15
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There is just about everything out there to jailbreak and modify your Tesla. The only downside is that you're cut off from the Tesla network, which is kind of the point. You can roll back to whatever update you liked best, use customer settings/parameters and mix and match hardware. Rich Rebuilds and other people on YouTube are covering these developments in real time, last I checked. There is also software that will enable older versions of FSD and free supercharger support. I think the later is done by copy/pasting authentication from an existing car, not sure.
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May 2, 2024 19:54
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OBAMNA PHONE posted:drat that's good, does your state have a low rate of uninsured drivers due to this? I routinely see cars running without any metal or temporary plates that *clearly* aren't a recent purchase. Idk how they do it, must be nice to just exist in a state where you're not worried about _anything_. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7nTiqKFzrI
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Nitrox posted:There is just about everything out there to jailbreak and modify your Tesla. The only downside is that you're cut off from the Tesla network, which is kind of the point. You can roll back to whatever update you liked best, use customer settings/parameters and mix and match hardware. Rich Rebuilds and other people on YouTube are covering these developments in real time, last I checked. lol good
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May 2, 2024 20:36
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NoWake posted:I routinely see cars running without any metal or temporary plates that *clearly* aren't a recent purchase. Idk how they do it, must be nice to just exist in a state where you're not worried about _anything_.
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May 2, 2024 20:44
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Cactus Ghost posted:a tesla would be cool if it werent for all the extraneous bullshit Just inject saline into the Tesla. It's pretty safe.
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May 2, 2024 20:45
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Crimes are stored in the ball joints
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May 2, 2024 21:54
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Since I’m driving a loaner Mercedes C-class I’m just gonna bang this drum again that capacitive steering wheel controls can suck a bag of dicks large enough to collapse into a black hole. My favorite thing is on both sides of the steering wheel there is are two visually identical controls, consisting of a back button, capacitive directional, and home button. Does each one control something different? You bet your rear end they do. Would you know what they do without loving around with them? gently caress no.
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May 2, 2024 22:03
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Applebees Appetizer posted:There might be a way around insurance issues if you can somehow prove you've permanently disabled or removed FSD completely from the hard drive but then Tesla would have to do that so lol
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May 2, 2024 22:28
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:Since I’m driving a loaner Mercedes C-class I’m just gonna bang this drum again that capacitive steering wheel controls can suck a bag of dicks large enough to collapse into a black hole. And it's not like your hands are constantly on the steering wheel or anything, where there is a strong possibility of accidental touch.
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While I was waiting for my car to get looked at I was wandering around the showroom and all the new Mercedes have these steering wheels. One of the salesman came over joking about me wanting to buy one and I said I wouldn’t buy any of them if for no other reason than the steering wheel controls.
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May 2, 2024 23:14
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Just inject saline into the Tesla. It's pretty safe. It's a niche kink iirc. How would I do it though? Can I inject saline through the charge port? Just-In-Timeberlake posted:Since I’m driving a loaner Mercedes C-class I’m just gonna bang this drum again that capacitive steering wheel controls can suck a bag of dicks large enough to collapse into a black hole. loving VW does this too, the main killer of why I won't buy a Golf R even though I kinda want one is capacitative button trash. All the infotainment and the steering wheel buttons are touch sensitive bullshit that you can't discern by feel. Your eyes should be on the road not loving about with trying to find why your stereo just went to max volume when you were trying to adjust the climate controls. orange juche fucked around with this message at 23:32 on May 2, 2024 |
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May 2, 2024 23:29
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Engineers spending years painstakingly studying industry best practices and UX principles and decades of painfully learned real-world lessons, and the car companies hire them and set them to work designing new break room kiosks while the CEOs put their idiot nephews in charge of ~dIsRuPtInG~
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capacitive steering wheel controls are just one of those ideas that I cannot imagine r&d folks not laughing out of testing but we don't live in a good world like that
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orange juche posted:loving VW does this too, the main killer of why I won't buy a Golf R even though I kinda want one is capacitative button trash. All the infotainment and the steering wheel buttons are touch sensitive bullshit that you can't discern by feel. Your eyes should be on the road not loving about with trying to find why your stereo just went to max volume when you were trying to adjust the climate controls. When I got my ID.4 last March, I absolutely hated using those steering wheel buttons because I fat finger the wrong part trying to use it by feel. I've now gotten to the point where I've developed the muscle memory of know where precisely to touch but only because I just put up with it. One of the most infuriating flubs is trying to adjust the cruise control speed but accidentally hit the following distance button which causes the speed controls buttons to adjust the following distance instead (which I usually keep to the minimum distance setting) and then having to wait for the following distance prompt to time out or disengage and reengage the cruise control if I wanted to go back to change the set speed. Another annoying thing is that the volume control is oriented horizontally while the music controls is oriented vertically. Regardless of orientation preferences, the positioning of the buttons are such that the buttons closest to the center of the steering wheel cannot be reached without breaking your grip on the steering wheel which is not ideal and adds another hurdle trying to develop muscle memory. Especially because I usually listen to FM radio and tend to adjust my volume more often than seeking stations. Climate controls I only adjust while stopped or with lane-keep assist enabled because even turning on the heated seats requires multiple presses and I haven't developed the muscle memory to do any of it by feel yet and that assuming I ever will. It also doesn't help that the infortaiment system tends to have just the slightest bit of lag when interacting with it so timing button press sequences is a stretch. For all my griping, the ID.4 is at least practical, drives well, has physical stalks, and a physical drive selector that is fairly intuitive and not in the way. Also nice that I haven't had any major issues with car. That said, I'm glad VW is going back to physical buttons eventually.
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I imagine that the controls people are sitting in a lab trying their buttons not actually driving a car. The test drivers aren't turning on the stereo. The third group saying this sucks are told 2 out of 3 groups say it's good. The bean counters nod sagely and note how many less buttons have to be made.
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Edward IV posted:One of the most infuriating flubs is trying to adjust the cruise control speed but accidentally hit the following distance button which causes the speed controls buttons to adjust the following distance instead (which I usually keep to the minimum distance setting) and then having to wait for the following distance prompt to time out or disengage and reengage the cruise control if I wanted to go back to change the set speed. this is giving me a panic attack
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Didn’t VW finally admit that capacitive touch buttons are terrible and will be removing them in the next gen of cars? Doesn’t fix the current gen though.
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Edward IV posted:Another annoying thing is that the volume control is oriented horizontally while the music controls is oriented vertically. I've had this car for five years and still hit the source rocker instead of volume like 40% of the time 
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In annoying car stuff, hopped in the car today, started it and got a Big Red Warning stating "Service Charging System Soon" on my heads up display. No CEL or anything, and the battery is sitting at 14v same as usual, so I have no loving idea what's up there, other than maybe the car is trying to get me to fork money over to the dealer for something.
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Data Graham posted:Engineers spending years painstakingly studying industry best practices and UX principles and decades of painfully learned real-world lessons, and the car companies hire them and set them to work designing new break room kiosks while the CEOs put their idiot nephews in charge of ~dIsRuPtInG~ One of my friends was UI/UX for JLR until 2018 and so many times he talked about how he was hired for his particular expertise and yet head honchos in meetings and testing would override his logical choices for bullshit ones. In related news I know that JLR are getting some training materials produced for them to try and combat 'culture of execs not knowing poo poo' (I'm paraphrasing there obviously) among other things.  Anyway I came here to post a video of a guy testing the new finger chopper update on the Cybertruck but the twitter timeline updated and now I can't find it again 😢
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Olympic Mathlete posted:One of my friends was UI/UX for JLR until 2018 and so many times he talked about how he was hired for his particular expertise and yet head honchos in meetings and testing would override his logical choices for bullshit ones. Hopefully the training materials have easy to understand words and colorful pictures, wouldn't want them to strain too hard.
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god it is so loving silicon valley to have twenty grand in cameras and computers to sense every possible thing but have the trunk be dumber than a fuckin garage door. garage door hits resistance, it stops and reverses. something breaks the IR beam at the bottom, it stops and reverses. silicon valley goobermobile? cuts your fuckin finger off lmao
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There are table saws, a product designed almost exclusively for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjyC9f8LPU
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Ether Frenzy posted:There are table saws, a product designed almost exclusively for So by that measure, is the CYBERTRUKK better or worse? What if you own a business that specializes in the removal of fingers? What if you're a fixer for an organized crime boss and you have to convince someone of your boss's point of view?
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Olympic Mathlete posted:One of my friends was UI/UX for JLR until 2018 and so many times he talked about how he was hired for his particular expertise and yet head honchos in meetings and testing would override his logical choices for bullshit ones. I go you fam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOs-s8e181Q orange juche posted:In annoying car stuff, hopped in the car today, started it and got a Big Red Warning stating "Service Charging System Soon" on my heads up display. No CEL or anything, and the battery is sitting at 14v same as usual, so I have no loving idea what's up there, other than maybe the car is trying to get me to fork money over to the dealer for something. Ah yes, I forgot about the part where I was driving home in this Mercedes using cruise control and lane keeping assist and a warning came on saying the LKA was disabled due to a tire pressure issue. So after spending way too long trying to get the TPMS display to come up because every loving thing is accessed through a touchscreen and menus, why yes there is a warning about the two front tires that are displaying a PSI that falls squarely where it belongs according to the door card, and never went down the entire trip  Not sure what to do with this information, do I put more, air them down?.I'm the first person driving this loaner, it's got 68 miles on it, good stuff Mercedes.
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dissss posted:I've had this car for five years and still hit the source rocker instead of volume like 40% of the time Looking at the image on my phone far away: looks fine to control volume. Taking a closer look and seeing it's for the source: WTF???
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Ether Frenzy posted:There are table saws, a product designed almost exclusively for see? we could have single-use explosive-actuated safety features. join the 21st century, tesla
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My video about how safe the trunk edges are is raising a lot of questions about how safe are the trunk edges
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Good to know my penith is safe if I slam it in the Cybertruck frunk because the panel gaps are so large
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Cactus Ghost posted:see? we could have single-use explosive-actuated safety features. join the 21st century, tesla Sucks so much that sawstop managed to use a patent to stop Bosch's version which doesn't have that problem
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