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NoneMoreNegative posted:Yeah the idea of doing two-stick (not stick + throttle) piloting in full 6DOF is appealing, I tried it once and it is not an easy thing to get into. I would imagine if you could get comfortable with it that it would be very compelling paired with a VR hat. Full 6DOF movement in VR seems like it would result in a LOT of vomiting. Deakul posted:Descent 3 had a gangster as hell trailer. Man, Interplay was just shovelling money into Jim Cumming's wallet weren't they
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Fil5000 posted:Full 6DOF movement in VR seems like it would result in a LOT of vomiting. The system shock remake is the first 6DOF game I've played in years and even that on steam deck made me nauseous 🤢
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Fil5000 posted:Full 6DOF movement in VR seems like it would result in a LOT of vomiting. I did a lot of Elite Dangerous in VR which is technically 6DOF and was fine, but it's not nearly as fast-paced as the Descent games and also you would be at worst on a planetary surface, not dodging around in a bunch of labyrinthine tunnels. Full joystick / throttle control AND full look-around in your cockpit was a real plus for dogfighting, so much easier to track an opponent when you're trying to get on their tail in VR.
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Automata 10 Pack posted:Oh gently caress pirate doom 2 is out??
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Fil5000 posted:Full 6DOF movement in VR seems like it would result in a LOT of vomiting. Descent 3 also has the voice talents of David Warner and Adrienne Barbeau.
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Automata 10 Pack posted:Oh gently caress pirate doom 2 is out??
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Milo and POTUS posted:What were all the "killers"? You know, games that were hyped to both meet and exceed x game in quality and fun factor and then bury it in sales. Doom killer and quake killer seem the most notable but I remember PS2 killzone being hyped as a halo killer back when. I'm asking because I got Reaver recently and while I haven't played beyond the demo yet it seems kinda unfair that anyone could consider it an ultrakill-killer. Not that it's bad but because they clearly love the source material so In MMO land there were a bunch hyped as Everquest killers. Everquest actually got killed eventually, by World of Warcraft, even though I don't think it was marketed like that.
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NoneMoreNegative posted:I did a lot of Elite Dangerous in VR which is technically 6DOF and was fine, but it's not nearly as fast-paced as the Descent games and also you would be at worst on a planetary surface, not dodging around in a bunch of labyrinthine tunnels. I tried Wipeout in VR on the PS4 and it had three modes, lock camera to cockpit, lock camera to track and lock camera to pilot. I tried the first two and it was fine, tried the third and I immedately felt sick, it was quite impressive how big a difference it made. I know in general VR is ok if you're in a vehicle because most people's brains are used to dealing with that sort of thing, but yeah, speeding around tunnels spinning and sliding everywhere just seems like a bad time. Angry_Ed posted:Descent 3 also has the voice talents of David Warner and Adrienne Barbeau. And apparently Maurice LaMarche too!
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Sir Lemming posted:It's been a while, but I remember it being more "modern" for better and for worse. It attempts to have a narrative and different mission objectives and stuff to make the game about more than just shooting robots, with mixed results. Kind of a similar franchise arc to Doom now that I think about it. Yeah, all the levels are scripted and have multiple updating objectives and storylines. Sometimes this means you're flying around neat working mechanisms as you do the things, sometimes it means you go on awful key/switch hunts, sometimes it means the level glitches out and can't be finished because only 49 out of 50 targets spawned I remember some of the enemies being really, really annoying to fight because they're a little too maneuverable. Going outdoors is really cool, though, and the engine supported some pretty advanced effects like volumetric fog The music is also great, but unfortunately a lot of it can't be listened to outside the game- it's assembled dynamically from short loops and the masters were lost at some point so there is no canonical mix to track down
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Early impression of Pirate Doom 2. It’s fun. The environments aren’t as pretty as the first one so far, but it’s a public beta at this point so maybe that will get cleaned up. Gameplay-wise they feel good though. Maps are smaller so far. I liked the larger ones from the first one.
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Casimir Radon posted:Early impression of Pirate Doom 2. It’s fun. The environments aren’t as pretty as the first one so far, but it’s a public beta at this point so maybe that will get cleaned up. Gameplay-wise they feel good though. Maps are smaller so far. I liked the larger ones from the first one. The first one was a 19 map wad, this one is a 32 map wad, I guess this is why most are small. I'm pretty sure it looks the same, there may be some rosy googles in your memories      
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I wanna do another Half-Life 2 trailer for the 20th anniversary later this year. Time for another playthrough to get footage.
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Played the first level and a half of Phantom Fury, and for all of its alleged flaws, the difference in shooting from the beta to release is like night and day. They really should have put out a new demo just to prove that they fixed it.
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Mordja posted:Played the first level and a half of Phantom Fury, and for all of its alleged flaws, the difference in shooting from the beta to release is like night and day. They really should have put out a new demo just to prove that they fixed it. Yeah I'm really baffled as to why they didn't. Also baffled as to why they put out that original demo in the first place!!! Waaugh!
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If they manage to clean it up I’ll probably try it. And the last exterminator. We need more Duke clones.
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Ahoy dares ask a dumb question but nah, it actually leads to a fun philosophical exercise (and with a funny-yet-not-inaccurate result) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuyImR_dI6g
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I still think it's a platformer focused on dodging fireballs.
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Angryhead posted:Ahoy dares ask a dumb question but nah, it actually leads to a fun philosophical exercise (and with a funny-yet-not-inaccurate result) I was going to post it. And you know, it's kind of dumb question, because the answer is not as different as before: Doom is a FPS, and an action game, because the FPS genre is part of the bigger and more encompassing Action genre. Genres aren't just atomic, individual labels that exist without any relation. There is imo a hierarchy of genres, and some are inside others. Action genre encompass any other genre that is based of quick reflexes and eye-hand coordination: fighting games, third person action games, beat'em up, etc. It goes in the other direction, too, FPS can be further divided up in arena multiplayer shooter, tactical fps, immersive fps, boomer shooter, etc. The point where you start to call these divisions 'subgenres' instead of 'genres' is soft and can evolve, once a subgenre has a huge amount of games, and said games start having variations of styles themselves, the subgenre can be reclassified as genre. Like, it could be argued it precisely happened with FPS!
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DOOM is: FPS; hobby-grade coop campaign; genre-blended, multi-mode competitive e-sports; meta-growth, choice + epic DOOM Heroes!
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Yeah, it's an fps game.
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I'm watching that video right now and I'm confused by his thesis because it implies that Doom was the first FPS when that's clearly not the case, right? I guess I disagree with the sentiment that just because a genre doesn't have a proper name doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. Doom clearly codified a lot of what became standard but it's still iterating on previous games. EDIT: He calls Gauntlet an RPG? I'm supposed to trust this guy on genre categorization? FrumpleOrz fucked around with this message at 19:21 on May 3, 2024 |
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See, games are a bit different to categorize, vs other types of entertainment media. You've got the thematic genre, and also the mechanical genre. Actually, now that I think of it, something like painting, as well as movies/tv shows are also kind of separated by thematic and mechanical genres.
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Doom was the first and most faithful doom clone
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no need to watch some dumbass YouTube video lol
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It's a bad video, even if it was an attempt at a joke. I won't trust Ahoy in the future now.
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haveblue posted:Doom was the first and most faithful doom clone When you're right you're right.
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Turn the map on and doom is a twin stick shooter.
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Doom II was also the single GREATEST Doom-killer to ever hit the market.
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haveblue posted:Doom was the first and most faithful doom clone AND the original Doom Killer EDIT: In Training posted:Doom II was also the single GREATEST Doom-killer to ever hit the market. God drat it
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Jehde posted:Turn the map on and doom is a twin stick shooter. Enter the right cheat code and you're not even joking
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Quantum of Phallus posted:no need to watch some dumbass YouTube video lol Preach, brother. And apply it to everything in life.
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staking out the controversial position that it's a gun zelda
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yall dumb as hell, ahoy rules
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An Actual Princess posted:yall dumb as hell, ahoy rules I'm not going to trust a guy who calls Gauntlet an RPG. That's an insane statement to make.
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An Actual Princess posted:yall dumb as hell, ahoy rules yeah ahoy is great, silly takes happen to us all sometimes
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I want Ahoy to do more of his Iconic Arms series but I don't know what he would cover.
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FrumpleOrz posted:I'm not going to trust a guy who calls Gauntlet an RPG. That's an insane statement to make. it's an ARPG
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