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Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer
It should also be pointed out that the FBI had the physical hard drive long before the purported hard drive image from the repairman-turned-data-thief were shopped around, and there was proof that there were files added to it after the fact, even before and after the New York Post initially broke the story about the drive. Even the repair guy himself was saying there was stuff being reported that he had not seen.

WaPo had two foresnic experts go over the data and could only verify about 20,000 emails, the hundreds of thousands of other emails, pictures, videos etc. couldn't be verified as being real or not because of the fact the data had been tampered with, copied multiple times, etc.

This is probably why no real legal repercussions for Hunter Biden came from it.

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socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 8 hours!

Angry_Ed posted:

It should also be pointed out that the FBI had the physical hard drive long before the purported hard drive image from the repairman-turned-data-thief were shopped around, and there was proof that there were files added to it after the fact, even before and after the New York Post initially broke the story about the drive. Even the repair guy himself was saying there was stuff being reported that he had not seen.

WaPo had two foresnic experts go over the data and could only verify about 20,000 emails, the hundreds of thousands of other emails, pictures, videos etc. couldn't be verified as being real or not because of the fact the data had been tampered with, copied multiple times, etc.

This is probably why no real legal repercussions for Hunter Biden came from it.

Are you sure, I heard from many leftists on this very forum that every ounce of it was 100% true.

Guess this does prove it did somewhat come from that repair shop, although seems like it was planted.

socialsecurity fucked around with this message at 03:18 on May 3, 2024

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

socialsecurity posted:

Are you sure, I heard from many leftists on this very forum that every ounce of it was 100% true.

Are you really dumb enough to believe the Washington Post? Really?

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 8 hours!

Elephant Ambush posted:

Are you really dumb enough to believe the Washington Post? Really?

I mean it's better than the nothing that's been presented otherwise.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Timeline as I understand it:

* Icloud hacked and backups downloaded
* results saved onto a laptop
* various things added
-repair shop coverstory happens here-
* physical HD given to FBI, but copies kept
* copies altered some more
* shared with various journalists/politicians
* memes about what the laptop definitely said
-we are here-

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

The Lone Badger posted:

Timeline as I understand it:

* Icloud hacked and backups downloaded
* results saved onto a laptop
* various things added
-repair shop coverstory happens here-
* physical HD given to FBI, but copies kept
* copies altered some more
* shared with various journalists/politicians
* memes about what the laptop definitely said
-we are here-

This is accurate, just insert the two Republican-led committees that found nothing that they could charge either Joe or Hunter Biden with in 2020 and 2023, and that's everything regarding his laptop and the hard drive image that was tampered with.

Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 04:45 on May 3, 2024

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Don't forget that they showed Hunter's hog on the House floor on CSPAN

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
Andy Ngo get hosed ahaaha
https://twitter.com/WilliamTurton/status/1786238180141695076

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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That is an A+ troll

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Subjunctive posted:

Is Veritas the one that bugged a congressperson's phone and still managed to not go to jail?

other James OKeefe fact.

1) he got super horny for a woman journalist and tried to do an interview on a dildo boat.
2) he's burnt a poo poo ton of money on acting and singing lessons so he could be a show tunes actor/singer and force his underlings to attend his shows

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*

PhazonLink posted:

other James OKeefe fact.
2) he's burnt a poo poo ton of money on acting and singing lessons so he could be a show tunes actor/singer and force his underlings to attend his shows

This is the most hosed up thing I have heard about OKeefe to date.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
I hadn't heard Okeefe mentioned in a long time but some WGOP radio host had Matt Gaetz on and they were discussing some new "bombshell" story or another. I forget what it was and the only info I can find is from hard right sites that I'm not gonna link.

It "takes aim at the CIA"

Also, update: Matt Gaetz remains I giant piece of poo poo

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!
O'Keefe had a similar FRIENDSHIP OVER moment with Veritas like Tucker Carlson and like Carlson his followers turned on the former employer in support of their hero.

Not surprisingly, similar to Ben Shapiro and Stephen Crowder James O Keefe is a failed entertainment guy and seems to use the undercover gig to fund his hobby of acting in musicals.

It seems like there's no greater driver of right wing ambition as being rejected by Hollywood.

Lord Stimperor
Jun 13, 2018

I'm a lovable meme.

BiggerBoat posted:

I giant piece of poo poo

don't; sign your posts

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

skeleton warrior posted:

And somehow, in rooting around in his laptop, found text messages he had sent, because text messages are definitely stored on a laptop

The laptop is absolutely russian disinfo, but it was a Macbook; you can sync your iPhone texts/iMessage/Notifications to it.

Lord Stimperor
Jun 13, 2018

I'm a lovable meme.

I'm really big on listening to Qanon anonymous, Knowledge fight, and so on. I would describe myself as pretty patient for going on 4 years now the conspiracy quacks keep rehashing Hunter Biden's laptop and generally, they haven't moved beyond 2020. I think Hunter Biden's hog was their Vietnam

Crunch Buttsteak
Feb 26, 2007

You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?
The Laptop fulfills a similar role to Hillary's e-mails, in that grifters are able to coast off of the initial "scandal" and perception of a huge cover-up to suggest the most lurid things imaginable are on there. Nobody can fact-check them and there's no consequences for lying, so why not? Either follow the Hannity narrative (proof positive that The Big Guy is Joe!) or put your own spin on it (Hunter is having dirty, dirty Democrat threesomes with Obama's daughters!). Just have fun with it!

I think the reason it all hasn't congealed into a Pizzagate-esque thing is that Qanon has too many spinoffs now, so they can't all get behind one narrative anymore. That and Hunter doesn't have the decades of hatred aimed towards him that Hillary had at that point.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Lord Stimperor posted:

I would describe myself as pretty patient for going on 4 years now the conspiracy quacks keep rehashing Hunter Biden's laptop and generally, they haven't moved beyond 2020. I think Hunter Biden's hog was their Vietnam
Hunter's laptop obsesses them because the mainsteam media treated it like an obvious Republican campaign ratfucking stunt instead of a sensational Watergate-like bombshell that would blow the doors off the Biden Crime Family. They were planning on becoming the 2020 version of Hillary's Emails (and Obama's Birth Certificate, and the Whitey Tape, and Kerry's Swift Boat, and Whitewater, and ...) and for once the mainstream media refused to take the bait and play along (because it was such obvious bullshit that IIRC even the NY Post's journalists refused to put their names on the stories about it).

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I have to say that for a Laptop From Hell it seemed pretty mundane in terms of content.

Given the overarching narrative of the Qult you'd have expected much more illegal content on it.

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
Book is not even out yet and more lies pop up.

"An upcoming book by South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem that has created an uproar over her account of shooting a dog also contains at least two instances in which she recounts meetings with world leaders that are in dispute.

In “No Going Back,” Noem says she met North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un while serving in Congress on the House Armed Services Committee. Last year as governor, she says she canceled a meeting with French President Emmanuel Macron."

"“Through my tenure on the House Armed Services Committee,” she wrote, “I had the chance to travel to many countries to meet with world leaders. I remember when I met with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un. I’m sure he underestimated me, having no clue about my experience staring down little tyrants (I’d been a children’s pastor, after all). Dealing with foreign leaders takes resolve, preparation and determination. My experiences on those many foreign trips made me a better member of Congress and a stronger governor. It allowed me to hone my deal-making skills, which play a crucial role in leadership.”"

https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1786408994342342766

Space Fish
Oct 14, 2008

The original Big Tuna.


Lord Stimperor posted:

I'm really big on listening to Qanon anonymous, Knowledge fight, and so on. I would describe myself as pretty patient for going on 4 years now the conspiracy quacks keep rehashing Hunter Biden's laptop and generally, they haven't moved beyond 2020. I think Hunter Biden's hog was their Vietnam

Conspiracy quacks will repeat their chants of "FISA court" until someone asks them what the hell that means, at which point they will begin the explanation that never ends and includes a smug grin at the end of every sentence.

The Islamic Shock
Apr 8, 2021
Sometimes I think it'd be so, so loving easy for me to grift on the side that doesn't care if you're caught lying about anything. If I didn't care that that'd be creating way more harm than my ability to do good with the money made from it

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Crunch Buttsteak posted:

T!

I think the reason it all hasn't congealed into a Pizzagate-esque thing is that Qanon has too many spinoffs now, so they can't all get behind one narrative anymore. That and Hunter doesn't have the decades of hatred aimed towards him that Hillary had at that point.

Also hunter is not and never will be a candidate for any actual office

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

OgNar posted:

Book is not even out yet and more lies pop up.

"An upcoming book by South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem that has created an uproar over her account of shooting a dog also contains at least two instances in which she recounts meetings with world leaders that are in dispute.

In “No Going Back,” Noem says she met North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un while serving in Congress on the House Armed Services Committee. Last year as governor, she says she canceled a meeting with French President Emmanuel Macron."

"“Through my tenure on the House Armed Services Committee,” she wrote, “I had the chance to travel to many countries to meet with world leaders. I remember when I met with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un. I’m sure he underestimated me, having no clue about my experience staring down little tyrants (I’d been a children’s pastor, after all). Dealing with foreign leaders takes resolve, preparation and determination. My experiences on those many foreign trips made me a better member of Congress and a stronger governor. It allowed me to hone my deal-making skills, which play a crucial role in leadership.”"

https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1786408994342342766

Setting up the defense that she never even had a dog

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!
I've definitely heard this theory thrown around back during the George Floyd riots-that some groups are just there for an opportunity to get a few licks in, and don't really believe what they are counter protesting.

https://twitter.com/ScottMGreer/status/1786390981073363291?t=9_mAao0FjVsLDBR3FuuNJA&s=19

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
lol if the law of projection is that those R leaning boys are just stupid shallow morons with no ideas of their own other than "lol trigger woke sjws, also become a social media supa star"

also maybe theyre the "outside agitators "

PhazonLink fucked around with this message at 21:59 on May 3, 2024

Xand_Man
Mar 2, 2004

If what you say is true
Wutang might be dangerous


one of the big take-away from Bob Altemeyer's research was that RWA types are there for the violence and norm-policing instead of principled reasoning

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Also hunter is not and never will be a candidate for any actual office

I don’t think that’s the only way for him to become a public figure, though. He could end up figurehead CEO of some public company, or a spokesmodel!

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!
It probably helps that the flag catchers got a massive amount of money donated to their Fraternity which no doubt will encourage more of this clownish behavior.

One long missed opportunity I believe is not appropriating the US flag for leftist causes in order to sufficiently muddle the symbolism of it by the right. The right considers the flag to be a sacred totem, it's unfortunate that it is allowed to happen. Obviously a big part of the protests is criticism of the US as an entity regarding Israel and Palestine, but the power of symbols is that they can be whatever you need them to be.

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

SET A COURSE FOR
THE FLAVOR QUADRANT

Subjunctive posted:

I don’t think that’s the only way for him to become a public figure, though. He could end up figurehead CEO of some public company, or a spokesmodel!

Cialis spokesman

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan
Everyone that has complained to me in person about Hunter’s indictment has broken the same law. It’s crazy. He lied about using drugs when he bought a gun. Dude, I’ve bought weed from you, you talk about coke a lot, and own guns. Words cannot convey how nuts this is.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
but they didnt buy or get those drugs while high?

also theyre good people and Hunter is their posting enemy .

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!
I wonder how much of an escalation we're going to see with these protests
https://mississippitoday.org/2024/0...of-mississippi/
Feels like history repeating itself. It's notable how the counter protestors weren't really organized, they just came over and heckled the protestors for lulz but the fact that it was the protestors who ended up hustled away is a bad sign.

To the right, the idea of frat boys shutting down these protests lends the idea that the counter protests are more valid than the protests. It's not the oppressive boot of the state telling them it's not ok, it's the 'good' Americans that love their country, who are clean and handsome and happy as contrasted with the screaming, angry, and dirty looking protestors.

Conservatives always need to feel everyone secretly agrees with them and seeing college students exhibit violence seems to excite them. This in turn surely encourages the behavior since the instigators not just avoid punishment but get praise and support for their antics.

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

Panfilo posted:

I wonder how much of an escalation we're going to see with these protests
https://mississippitoday.org/2024/0...of-mississippi/
Feels like history repeating itself. It's notable how the counter protestors weren't really organized, they just came over and heckled the protestors for lulz but the fact that it was the protestors who ended up hustled away is a bad sign.

To the right, the idea of frat boys shutting down these protests lends the idea that the counter protests are more valid than the protests. It's not the oppressive boot of the state telling them it's not ok, it's the 'good' Americans that love their country, who are clean and handsome and happy as contrasted with the screaming, angry, and dirty looking protestors.

Conservatives always need to feel everyone secretly agrees with them and seeing college students exhibit violence seems to excite them. This in turn surely encourages the behavior since the instigators not just avoid punishment but get praise and support for their antics.

I don't have a Bluesky account so I'm hoping this posts properly. Let me know if it doesn't:

https://bsky.app/profile/joshuajfriedman.com/post/3krkmap4zkk24
https://bsyy.app/profile/bubbaprog.ilovecitr.us/post/3krknhodcic2l

This should be a pair of posts showing a bunch of white frat boys jeering at a protestor at Ole Miss, and a similar photo from 1962 showing a bunch of young white men jeering at James Meredith in the same spot.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
I was thinking about this recently; wondering why the level of political discourse is so heated and why it's so hard to reach common ground and focus on the things we collectively care about and I realized:

SO MANY places are "not the time and place for politics".

Don't talk about politics at work. Don't bring up politics at family gatherings. Don't talk about politics at parties. No one wants to talk about politics at ________________. "I don't like politics on my social media page"

WHEN are we supposed to talk about this? We work like 75% of our waking hours.

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
Tucker still seeking that bottom line

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1786519901277982755

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

BiggerBoat posted:

WHEN are we supposed to talk about this? We work like 75% of our waking hours.

You're not supposed to. You're supposed to just trudge dutifully along generating revenue for someone else, not expressing any preferences or opinions about the system until you cease to be economically productive and/or fall over dead.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Captain_Maclaine posted:

You're not supposed to. You're supposed to just trudge dutifully along generating revenue for someone else, not expressing any preferences or opinions about the system until you cease to be economically productive and/or fall over dead.

Well...I'm working on it.

USA USA USA!!!

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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So he couldn't see all of those Sandy Hook lawsuits coming then?

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RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

Mater Dolorosa

PhazonLink posted:

lol if the law of projection is that those R leaning boys are just stupid shallow morons with no ideas of their own other than "lol trigger woke sjws, also become a social media supa star"

also maybe theyre the "outside agitators "

That's straight up what Republicans and other fascists believe.
Conservatives believe that violence is one of the foremost virtues of manhood and the first and best way to solve nearly all problems, but they still believe it is a means to an end. To the fascist, violence is no longer the means, but the end. The goal of the fascist is to hurt people and cause suffering. Full stop. And while I would argue most of what we call fascists are not and are in fact extreme conservatives - including most historical Nazis - the GOP is and has been a largely fascist organization, even by my rigid definition, for some time now. The map has been the territory for decades. Rush Limbaugh was probably the real vanguard of it. Note how he never articulated policies or had any positive arguments; all he ever did was complain about people and celebrate misery. Doing X to own the libs.

Like there's a reason the real driving force of modern Republicanism is 4chan and other dens of online trolling. Objectivism is sociopathy masquerading as philosophy, and fascism is psychopathy masquerading as politics.

He's correct in that the counter protestors have no real skin in the game or ideological beliefs and simply hate the protestors. They are fascists.

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