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Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

haaretz apparently claiming that a (presumably temporary) ceasefire is “just hours away”, any truth to this or is it just zionists loudly fantasizing yet again?

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Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Comrade Koba posted:

haaretz apparently claiming that a (presumably temporary) ceasefire is “just hours away”, any truth to this or is it just zionists loudly fantasizing yet again?

nothing is true until Hamas confirms it.

we went through a similar cycle a month and a half ago where the egyptians said something similar and so did the US while hamas said no and stood their ground on their demands.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Gripweed posted:

I’ve been thinking about why the US still backs Israel to the hilt despite being willing to gently caress over all other countries. The explanations I’ve seen given don’t really hold up. We don’t need them to buy our weapons, what with Ukraine and the expansion of NATO and saber rattling over Taiwan. We don’t need them to be our guys in the ME anymore, now that pan-Arab socialism is dead and buried. We don’t need them as an irritant in the region, since the Arab countries are so pacified and ISIS works way better. So what’s the deal?

I recently read Catch and Kill, that Ronan Farrow book about the Weinstein stuff. When he talks about the Israel security company Weinstein used to investigate and intimidate victims, he talks about how all those guys are deeply connected to Mossad and that Israel is basically a factory for evil spies. Is that why Israel is so indispensable to the US still? Is it Epstein poo poo?

at this point unconditional support for israel has gone on for so long that it's taken a life of its own and as such doesn't need a rational justification

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
or its just plain old white solidarity and racism. much easier to trust a country of european colonists than it is to trust the muslim brown horde.

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!
I think gerontocracy is a quantitative factor in it. The decaying husks running the empire now are literally the same ones that were running it half a century ago.
You’re not going to get new ideas on how to run things or innovative new strategies from brains so old the grey matter has fossilized.
I think you can see it in things like Cuba, where to most people the revolution is something that happened generations ago, but to the gerontocrats it was a personal affront that they are still nursing a grudge over. Which ties in to what Al Saqr said about white solidarity and racism. Namely, do you really expect someone brought up and socialized in the culture of the 60-70’s ruling class to not be a racist?

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
to no ones surprise, israel is trying to torpedo any ceasefire effort

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‎Israeli source: We will not agree to end the war‎

‎IDF Radio quoted a political source as saying that they would not agree to end the war, adding that the army would enter Rafah whether the truce was held or not.‎

‎This comes after the arrival of the delegation of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) in Cairo, and the Qatari delegation headed to the Egyptian capital, where negotiations are expected to resume with the participation of Washington.‎


https://www.aljazeera.net/news/live...?update=6508258

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022
too many posts

:happyelf:

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Al-Saqr posted:

nothing is true until Hamas confirms it.

we went through a similar cycle a month and a half ago where the egyptians said something similar and so did the US while hamas said no and stood their ground on their demands.

it's funny when the US tries to do this assumptive close poo poo in public and it doesn't work. real hegemony behavior

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

Zesty.


Al-Saqr posted:

The houthis are dreamers and achievers, they can do it.

What are they actually up against here? We already went and showed them why we don’t have healthcare and by all evidence it seems like they said “lol bummer”

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
After arriving at Paris’ Charles De Gaulle Airport, Prof Ghassan Abu-Sitta, a plastic and reconstructive surgeon, was informed by French authorities that Germany has enforced a Schengen-wide ban on his entry to Europe.

“They are preventing me from entering France. I am supposed to speak at the French Senate Today,” said Sitta, who remains under French detention. “Fortress Europe silencing the witnesses to the genocide while Israel kills them in prison.”

During the months of October and November 2023 at the beginning of Israel’s war on Gaza that has since killed more than 34,000 Palestinians, Abu-Sittah operated from Gaza’s Al Shifa and Al Ahli Baptist hospitals. During his 43 days, he described witnessing a “massacre unfold” in Gaza and the use of white phosphorus munitions, which Israel has denied. He has also provided evidence to Scotland Yard.

The International Centre of Justice for Palestinians (ICJP) called his detention an “unacceptable harassment of a globally respected medical professional”.

“By design, the Germans are silencing a key witness to Israel’s war crimes. This follows their action taken on 12 April to bar Dr Abu Sitta’s entry to Berlin to participate in the Palestine Congress - an event which German police later disbanded,” the independent organisation said in a statement.

“ICJP are instructing lawyers in France and Germany to see that the German’s authoritarian crackdown on free speech and witness testimony won’t stand,” ICJP director Tayab Ali said.

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

Zesty.


Al-Saqr posted:

nothing is true until Hamas confirms it.

we went through a similar cycle a month and a half ago where the egyptians said something similar and so did the US while hamas said no and stood their ground on their demands.

It seems like it’s a matter of policy to just constantly be floating peace offers where it’s like “okay you guys all have to line up and let us shoot you a few times, until we feel like it’s enough, and in return we’ll stop actively murdering your families for up to two months, pending verification.” Just dogshit moron deals that nobody would ever take, because the point is to get to say HAMAS REFUSES PEACE DEAL

Maybe this is different, but I doubt it

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
But they're not even doing that because Israel keeps refusing the peace deal, and making it very clear that they won't accept any peace deal.

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


exmarx posted:

After arriving at Paris’ Charles De Gaulle Airport, Prof Ghassan Abu-Sitta, a plastic and reconstructive surgeon, was informed by French authorities that Germany has enforced a Schengen-wide ban on his entry to Europe.

“They are preventing me from entering France. I am supposed to speak at the French Senate Today,” said Sitta, who remains under French detention. “Fortress Europe silencing the witnesses to the genocide while Israel kills them in prison.”

During the months of October and November 2023 at the beginning of Israel’s war on Gaza that has since killed more than 34,000 Palestinians, Abu-Sittah operated from Gaza’s Al Shifa and Al Ahli Baptist hospitals. During his 43 days, he described witnessing a “massacre unfold” in Gaza and the use of white phosphorus munitions, which Israel has denied. He has also provided evidence to Scotland Yard.

The International Centre of Justice for Palestinians (ICJP) called his detention an “unacceptable harassment of a globally respected medical professional”.

“By design, the Germans are silencing a key witness to Israel’s war crimes. This follows their action taken on 12 April to bar Dr Abu Sitta’s entry to Berlin to participate in the Palestine Congress - an event which German police later disbanded,” the independent organisation said in a statement.

“ICJP are instructing lawyers in France and Germany to see that the German’s authoritarian crackdown on free speech and witness testimony won’t stand,” ICJP director Tayab Ali said.

The fascist state of Germany

Spoondick
Jun 9, 2000

if the jews have such an important right to self determination why weren't they given the rhineland or something as compensation for a thousand years of marginalization and murder at the hands of whites, why is it that palestinians must pay for the evils of generations of europeans with the blood of their children?

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Spoondick posted:

if the jews have such an important right to self determination why weren't they given the rhineland or something as compensation for a thousand years of marginalization and murder at the hands of whites, why is it that palestinians must pay for the evils of generations of europeans with the blood of their children?

Also I think it's about time the Romani had their own country really

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

the people who roam are called romani

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

StashAugustine posted:

Also I think it's about time the Romani had their own country really

This is why we need Doctor Doom

madmatt112
Jul 11, 2016

Is that a cat in your pants, or are you just a lonely excuse for an adult?

Spergin Morlock posted:

the people who roam are called romani

this is stolen roman valour

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Spoondick posted:

if the jews have such an important right to self determination why weren't they given the rhineland or something as compensation for a thousand years of marginalization and murder at the hands of whites, why is it that palestinians must pay for the evils of generations of europeans with the blood of their children?

I think you'll find that the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was the real perpetrator behind the Holocaust. Not looking so smug now, eh?

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
https://twitter.com/halalflow/status/1786466345619452301

i swear, these people have a temper of saints to not just jump over the table and smack destiny

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Honest Thief posted:

https://twitter.com/halalflow/status/1786466345619452301

i swear, these people have a temper of saints to not just jump over the table and smack destiny

destiny looks like an actual Muppet lmao

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

You can watch the hosts both regret having him on the show.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Honest Thief posted:

https://twitter.com/halalflow/status/1786466345619452301

i swear, these people have a temper of saints to not just jump over the table and smack destiny

i’m not sure if it’s a net positive that isreal has this guy as one of their most well known supporters or a net negative that this idiot has more publicity than he’s ever had before

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Why we still posting gamer ben shapiro

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Spergin Morlock posted:

destiny looks like an actual Muppet lmao

Tom Green if he wasn't simply pretending to be a moron

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
ill say it, freddy got fingered was funny and strangely unforgettable

Sanlav
Feb 10, 2020

We'll Meet Again

Al-Saqr posted:

ill say it, freddy got fingered was funny and strangely unforgettable

Japan 4

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


Jel Shaker posted:

i’m not sure if it’s a net positive that isreal has this guy as one of their most well known supporters or a net negative that this idiot has more publicity than he’s ever had before

not sure that destiny counts as “well known” among the majority of people who aren’t irreparably poisoned in the way people like us are

Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette
really happy that tiny idiot destroyed all his credibility and has now become JustZionistThings.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Honest Thief posted:

https://twitter.com/halalflow/status/1786466345619452301

i swear, these people have a temper of saints to not just jump over the table and smack destiny

Why do we have to hear from that dork on anything? I'm not criticizing OP for posting it but Breaking Points for treating Destiny like he's a serious commentator.

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
Old media trying to figure out how to ingratiate themselves with the new media

Son of Thunderbeast has issued a correction as of 17:56 on May 4, 2024

lousy hat
Jul 17, 2004

bone appetit
Clapping Larry

Honest Thief posted:

https://twitter.com/halalflow/status/1786466345619452301

i swear, these people have a temper of saints to not just jump over the table and smack destiny

MISTER BORRELLINI, YOU ARE SUCH AN INCOMPREHENSIBLE MORON

the only reasonable response to destiny tbh

Dokapon Findom
Dec 5, 2022

They hated Futanari because His posts were shit.

Jel Shaker posted:

i’m not sure if it’s a net positive that isreal has this guy as one of their most well known supporters or a net negative that this idiot has more publicity than he’s ever had before

One thing I've been thinking of is if all criticism of Israel is banned, all you have left are spokespeople in favor of the war- which, I don't know how taking up all the available air in the conversation is going to be of benefit to winning hearts and minds to support the war when they do poo poo like eat "Rachel Corrie Pancakes". I think of this specific example because if you did like a "man on the street" thing and said one side in the conflict murdered an American citizen with a bulldozer and eats pancakes on the anniversary of their killing in celebration, without saying which side did it, my thinking is popular sentiment is not going to be favorable to the side doing the bulldozing, which most people weren't aware was happening to begin with. They're so enthusiastic about this poo poo, and seeing them go "hey, isn't this cool?" with that ghoulish settler grin does not elicit the same response from a normal person being exposed to this to the first time. No war was ever won or lost on the basis of public opinion but it ultimately has the effect of people previously unconnected now being exposed to the bullshit to such a severe and immediate degree as to instantly see past it. Just my $0.02

E2M2
Mar 2, 2007

Ain't No Thang.
Weeks later but CNN reporting on the IDF killing those 11 kids playing football

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/02/middleeast/israeli-precision-guided-munition-maghazi-deaths-intl/index.html

Death to motherfucking Israel

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

Comrade Koba posted:

haaretz apparently claiming that a (presumably temporary) ceasefire is “just hours away”, any truth to this or is it just zionists loudly fantasizing yet again?

we've heard poo poo like this so many times and it's always bullshit and always Israel loving it up on purpose because they don't want to stop killing palestenians

Rip Testes
Jan 29, 2004

I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.

Honest Thief posted:

https://twitter.com/halalflow/status/1786466345619452301

i swear, these people have a temper of saints to not just jump over the table and smack destiny

Who is that bozo and what does he keep doodling on his notepad?

Sanlav
Feb 10, 2020

We'll Meet Again

galagazombie posted:

I think gerontocracy is a quantitative factor in it. The decaying husks running the empire now are literally the same ones that were running it half a century ago.
You’re not going to get new ideas on how to run things or innovative new strategies from brains so old the grey matter has fossilized.
I think you can see it in things like Cuba, where to most people the revolution is something that happened generations ago, but to the gerontocrats it was a personal affront that they are still nursing a grudge over. Which ties in to what Al Saqr said about white solidarity and racism. Namely, do you really expect someone brought up and socialized in the culture of the 60-70’s ruling class to not be a racist?

Rather than support black civil rights with justice, Liberals promised untold future opportunities. A few more decades of rules lawyering and we'll get through all the Jim Crow 2.0. Once all the bad old ideas get purged in due time, there's no way we'd invent new ones. Financial capitalism can't stay a step ahead of regulators they own and operate, checks and balances exist I say as I turn into a corncob.

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

RandomBlue posted:

we've heard poo poo like this so many times and it's always bullshit and always Israel loving it up on purpose because they don't want to stop killing palestenians

the only ones you can trust on this is Hamas, every other news outlet constantly makes poo poo up especially saudi, israeli and egyptian media

Al-jazeera waits for Hamas to actually respond for good reason

its been the same pattern for like 5 months "progress" israel rejects it "hamas is to blame"

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

HallelujahLee posted:

the only ones you can trust on this is Hamas, every other news outlet constantly makes poo poo up especially saudi, israeli and egyptian media

Al-jazeera waits for Hamas to actually respond for good reason

its been the same pattern for like 5 months "progress" israel rejects it "hamas is to blame"

yeah the guardian keeps repeating the same story staying its “sources” suggest an imminent break through in negotiations as hamas has suddenly decided to accept israel’s reasonable “offer”

not sure how they know considering all the western jurnos are sitting pretty in a cafe in jerusalem and only get up to put on body armour when they’re on TV

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HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

Jel Shaker posted:

yeah the guardian keeps repeating the same story staying its “sources” suggest an imminent break through in negotiations as hamas has suddenly decided to accept israel’s reasonable “offer”

not sure how they know considering all the western jurnos are sitting pretty in a cafe in jerusalem and only get up to put on body armour when they’re on TV

yeah i forgot to add western sources are the worst, as you said i have no idea who these supposed "sources" are but my guess is israeli losers making poo poo up

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