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tagesschau posted:Columbia has need-based financial aid for undergraduates, which means the only people paying full price are massive outliers income-wise. Even then, a Columbia student whose parents are loaded enough that they get no financial aid at all is getting more in goods and services than they pay for. This is not true, by the way. Colleges profile the parents of an applicant as the primary metric to decide what level of both need and merit based aide they will offer. That is, need and merit based aide levels are determined not by a student's actual need/merit, but by how much they think the parents are willing to pay. In practice this means often times children of poorer parents end up paying more, as those parents will take out massive loans to afford their kid the opportunity to attend a "good school." https://slate.com/business/2022/07/college-financial-aid-sham.html pthighs fucked around with this message at 06:41 on May 4, 2024 |
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May 4, 2024 06:37
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pthighs posted:This is not true, by the way. Colleges profile the parents of an applicant as the primary metric to decide what level of both need and merit based aide they will offer. That is, need and merit based aide levels are determined not by a student's actual need/merit, but by how much they think the parents are willing to pay. The article you linked says specifically that this doesn't apply to Ivy League schools and other wealthy elite institutions. It also says that the entire point of all these algorithms is that basically nobody is paying full price.
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May 4, 2024 07:21
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punishedkissinger posted:Personally I think that recreating the '68 convention is not a winning path for the Dems but sure We seem to be testing the hypothesis that LBJ could've won if he'd stayed in 1968.
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May 4, 2024 16:24
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Bodyholes posted:We seem to be testing the hypothesis that LBJ could've won if he'd stayed in 1968. Comparing LBJ’s conduct of the Vietnam War to Biden supporting Israel is a terrible analogy on a number of levels. The U.S. was a combatant in that war. U.S. policy resulted in the people protesting on campuses to be subject to the draft and dying in that war. There is no comparison to the weight of the electoral consequences of Vietnam on LBJ to Gaza on Biden. 68 would have been a clear loss for LBJ, directly caused by his decisions on Vietnam. It’s true that in a close election losing some young voter turnout could contribute to Biden losing. But otherwise the situations are not comparable.
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May 4, 2024 16:44
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Zwabu posted:Comparing LBJ’s conduct of the Vietnam War to Biden supporting Israel is a terrible analogy on a number of levels. The young voters protesting Biden's policy regarding Gaza were not around for the greater magnitude of things the US has done in the past so this takes the same level of importance in their lives proportionately. It's relative. I'm not actually convinced LBJ would've lost had he stayed in, and I disagree with all other facets of your analysis as well. What election do you think this represents most, if not 1968?
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May 4, 2024 17:10
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Bodyholes posted:The young voters protesting Biden's policy regarding Gaza were not around for the greater magnitude of things the US has done in the past so this takes the same level of importance in their lives proportionately. It's relative. I'm not actually convinced LBJ would've lost had he stayed in, and I disagree with all other facets of your analysis as well. What election do you think this represents most, if not 1968? The fact that young people in the U.S. were subject to being drafted and killed in Vietnam means that there is no way the situation in Gaza is remotely comparable. Also I don’t think there is an analogous election. I don’t think any of these three Trump elections fit particularly closely to pre Trump elections.
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May 4, 2024 17:19
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Zwabu posted:I don’t think any of these three Trump elections fit particularly closely to pre Trump elections. Somehow I never quite thought of it that way. Trump will have been the nominee for president three times now. 
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May 4, 2024 17:30
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Fuschia tude posted:Somehow I never quite thought of it that way. Trump will have been the nominee for president three times now. The William Jennings Bryan of our time!
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May 4, 2024 17:31
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Acebuckeye13 posted:The William Jennings Bryan of our time! He's already more successful than WJB, if less coherent Also we can only hope Trump ends the same way, stroked out in a courtroom (yea I know he didn't actually have the stroke/heart attack during the Scopes trial, but Inherit the Wind is too good to pass up)
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May 4, 2024 17:35
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Let's just hope he doesn't become the Grover Cleveland of our times
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May 4, 2024 17:59
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Bodyholes posted:The young voters protesting Biden's policy regarding Gaza were not around for the greater magnitude of things the US has done in the past so this takes the same level of importance in their lives proportionately. It's relative. I'm not actually convinced LBJ would've lost had he stayed in, and I disagree with all other facets of your analysis as well. What election do you think this represents most, if not 1968? It's not about relative badness, it's about the actual impact on their lives. The student protesters in 1968 were subject to the draft and therefore had a pretty good chance of being shipped to Vietnam themselves once they graduated. Vietnam wasn't just some bad thing that was happening halfway around the globe. Millions of Americans were sent, often against their will, to go experience Vietnam for themselves, personally - with plenty of them coming back maimed or traumatized. And as soon as the student protesters graduated, they'd be eligible to potentially be sent there next.
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Main Paineframe posted:It's not about relative badness, it's about the actual impact on their lives. The student protesters in 1968 were subject to the draft and therefore had a pretty good chance of being shipped to Vietnam themselves once they graduated. Vietnam wasn't just some bad thing that was happening halfway around the globe. Millions of Americans were sent, often against their will, to go experience Vietnam for themselves, personally - with plenty of them coming back maimed or traumatized. And as soon as the student protesters graduated, they'd be eligible to potentially be sent there next. Let's also not forget the impact of the deaths were being felt at home, especially in communities of color when people weren't coming back. It was tangible and more deeply woven into the United States in a way that Gaza isn't.
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May 4, 2024 20:05
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Ole Miss, long a bastion of racial civility, showed its ugly rear end again with about 200 counter protesters showing up to about 30 pro-palestine protesters. Wearing American flag clothes, waving trump flags, flipping people off and being as offensive as you'd expect. https://www.instagram.com/p/C6e9SvduJat/?igsh=MXhhc3l3Y285azY2cw== Also apparently they were exhibiting some, shockingly I know, racist behavior that the University is now investigating. https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/04/us/mississippi-campus-protest-gaza-black-student/index.html
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May 5, 2024 03:52
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BonoMan posted:Ole Miss, long a bastion of racial civility, showed its ugly rear end again with about 200 counter protesters showing up to about 30 pro-palestine protesters. these are the people Biden is siding with against peace activists
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May 5, 2024 04:09
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punishedkissinger posted:these are the people Biden is siding with against peace activists Maga bad Biden maga Stay home let trump win (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 5, 2024 04:23
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punishedkissinger posted:these are the people Biden is siding with against peace activists No, he's not particularly siding against peace activists, and he's really not siding with counterprotest dickheads. His Thursday blurb was a limp "free speech good, vandalism bad, violence bad, blah blah" that's hard for anyone without a strong preexisting sentiment to get revved up about.
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May 5, 2024 05:07
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Goatse James Bond posted:No, he's not particularly siding against peace activists Yes he is. He is providing Israel with bombs and other military aid to genocide Palestinians, so by definition he is siding against peace activists and with the pro-Israel counterprotesters.
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May 5, 2024 05:50
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Goatse James Bond posted:No, he's not particularly siding against peace activists, and he's really not siding with counterprotest dickheads. His Thursday blurb was a limp "free speech good, vandalism bad, violence bad, blah blah" that's hard for anyone without a strong preexisting sentiment to get revved up about. They're partially protesting against him because he's supporting Israel, so he is siding against them.
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May 5, 2024 07:18
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Mind_Taker posted:Yes he is. He is providing Israel with bombs and other military aid to genocide Palestinians, so by definition he is siding against peace activists and with the pro-Israel counterprotesters. If you think the maga hat racist crowd is there to support Israel and not to trigger libs and celebrate bombing brown people then I dont know what to tell you.
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May 5, 2024 12:04
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Dietrich posted:If you think the maga hat racist crowd is there to support Israel and not to trigger libs and celebrate bombing brown people then I dont know what to tell you. Biden and Trump are both bad on multiple issues including issues that have their own threads (hint).
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May 5, 2024 12:18
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Goatse James Bond posted:No, he's not particularly siding against peace activists, and he's really not siding with counterprotest dickheads. His Thursday blurb was a limp "free speech good, vandalism bad, violence bad, blah blah" that's hard for anyone without a strong preexisting sentiment to get revved up about. neutrality helps teh oppressor, never the victim. silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented
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May 5, 2024 12:42
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Dietrich posted:If you think the maga hat racist crowd is there to support Israel and not to trigger libs and celebrate bombing brown people then I dont know what to tell you. They are there to support Israel bombing brown people, yes.
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May 5, 2024 13:31
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Dietrich posted:If you think the maga hat racist crowd is there to support Israel and not to trigger libs and celebrate bombing brown people then I dont know what to tell you. Supporting Israel and celebrating bombing brown people are literally the same thing.
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May 5, 2024 15:16
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Not to dog pile but "peaceful protest is fine but violence and vandalism or not" is absolutely siding against the demonstrators. The vast majority of these protests have been peaceful so painting them all as some pseudo insurrection plays right into the hands of the fascists and Biden knows it. It's the same language that was used to discredit the Black lives matter and occupy Wall Street movements. Also, failure to publicly criticize the massive police overreaction is itself also siding against the protesters. These pieces of poo poo put snipers on roofs. Not even mentioning that is the same as advocating for it.
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May 5, 2024 15:39
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It’s quite obvious that in this issue, Biden, Trump, and the MAGA crowd are on the same side
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May 5, 2024 15:39
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theCalamity posted:It’s quite obvious that in this issue, Biden, Trump, and the MAGA crowd are on the same side This, with the minor detail differences of one supports Israel but wishes they would do a little less obvious of a genocide, and one supports Israel but thinks they aren't genociding hard enough.
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May 5, 2024 15:45
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Tatsuta Age posted:This, with the minor detail differences of one supports Israel but wishes they would do a little less obvious of a genocide, and one supports Israel but thinks they aren't genociding hard enough. It's also important to note that these minor detail differences don't seem to make any actual difference when it comes to policy or material support for the genocidal state. They have a difference in what they view as acceptable optics, but that's it.
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May 5, 2024 15:51
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Tatsuta Age posted:This, with the minor detail differences of one supports Israel but wishes they would do a little less obvious of a genocide, and one supports Israel but thinks they aren't genociding hard enough. If you're sending Lend-Lease to the Reich, it doesn't matter if you shake your finger at them before, during and after.
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May 5, 2024 15:55
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:It's also important to note that these minor detail differences don't seem to make any actual difference when it comes to policy or material support for the genocidal state. They have a difference in what they view as acceptable optics, but that's it. Of course they do - Trump literally assassinated an Iranian general, which was cited by Iran as part of the motivation for the attack (which was denied by Hamas, but it's really hard to imagine that the attack wasn't made without their material support in some fashion, especially considering how clearly it let to direct confrontations with Israel by them later). You also probably wouldn't be surprised to find out that the biggest shithead in Israel, Netanyahu, openly supported Trump for president
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May 5, 2024 16:01
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Lmao Kristi Noem said the first thing she’d do in the White House is introduce Joe Biden’s dog commander to Cricket, the dog she murdered. https://x.com/atrupar/status/1787132619504640450?s=46&t=JBd6ZXmGQ3LmWL-ineTnAA This whole interview is wild. She says claiming she met Kim jong Un was a typo by someone else.
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May 5, 2024 16:13
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Lemming posted:You also probably wouldn't be surprised to find out that the biggest shithead in Israel, Netanyahu, openly supported Trump for president And yet Biden has been bending over backwards to support Netanyahu
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May 5, 2024 16:13
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theCalamity posted:And yet Biden has been bending over backwards to support Netanyahu Absolutely - Biden loving sucks. None of this is to discount or excuse any of his actions - but Trump did concrete things that were worse and has been explicit about things he wants to do that are even worse. Trying to rhetorically emphasize how bad Biden is by making an equivalence to Trump is stupid because it makes anyone doing it look like they just learned who Trump was today
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May 5, 2024 16:19
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Lemming posted:Absolutely - Biden loving sucks. None of this is to discount or excuse any of his actions - but Trump did concrete things that were worse and has been explicit about things he wants to do that are even worse. Trying to rhetorically emphasize how bad Biden is by making an equivalence to Trump is stupid because it makes anyone doing it look like they just learned who Trump was today Did Trump do something worse than provide material and political support to the genocide in Gaza?
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May 5, 2024 16:28
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Lemming posted:Absolutely - Biden loving sucks. None of this is to discount or excuse any of his actions - but Trump did concrete things that were worse and has been explicit about things he wants to do that are even worse. Trying to rhetorically emphasize how bad Biden is by making an equivalence to Trump is stupid because it makes anyone doing it look like they just learned who Trump was today It’s not stupid to show how bad Biden is by saying that he and Trump are on the same side on this issue. Do you believe that they are not on the same side of this?
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May 5, 2024 16:30
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FizFashizzle posted:Lmao Kristi Noem said the first thing she’d do in the White House is introduce Joe Biden’s dog commander to Cricket, the dog she murdered. can this woman’s thirst for dog death ever be slaked
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May 5, 2024 16:34
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Tiny Timbs posted:can this woman’s thirst for dog death ever be slaked See, everyone thinks she's running for VP. Really, she's running for dog catcher.
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May 5, 2024 16:38
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I think this is well past doubling down and even tripling down. I think this is the rare quadruple down.
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May 5, 2024 16:41
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Kith posted:I think this is well past doubling down and even tripling down. I think this is the rare quadruple down. Quadruple dog dare? Heavens I've been loving the puns in the news.
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