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P3 merciless is definitely harder than P5R hard because the latter multiplies not just the damage you take but also the damage you inflict when hitting elemental weaknesses. P3 merciless you just take more damage. Also eventually in P5R you're going to unlock a million link bonuses plus the ability to summon persona well above your level (honestly a welcome change even if it does trivialize the game).
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Ytlaya posted:I think my biggest issue is that bosses seem to have way too much loving health. I just did the September electric boss thing, and it took ages to kill. The most I could hit for was around like 300-400 with crits, and that was still only a tiny sliver of its health. It's weird, a lot of games (especially RPGs) do that, ie: turn bosses into tedious damage sponges as a big part of their hardest modes. I find myself wondering, "Does anybody actually LIKE this?" I'm certainly not a fan, but someone must be. It's one thing when you're fighting a superboss and they have a lot of HP but they also have other gimmicks to keep you on your toes. It's another thing when it's just kind of a regular boss that you have to spend 20+ minutes on. \/\/\/yeah exactly\/\/\/ Majorian fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Apr 28, 2024 |
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Apr 28, 2024 21:03
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If the boss being durable actually does add to the difficulty, such as you need to kill him before your ability to outlast its damage fails you, I think it can be an interesting challenge in figuring out how to maximize your damage output and conserve your resources. If it just results in you having to wail on the enemy for an extra 10 minutes with no more thought put into it, it’s not really hard it’s just annoying.
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Apr 28, 2024 21:12
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Question to those who played Eternal Punishment's PSP port: Is there some kind of glitch with the stat Source accessories? I had Lucky Sources equipped to the entire party and ended a fight with everyone leveling up. While everyone else got the appropriate Luck stat bonus, Maya never got it for some reason. I tried reloading the game and equipping it on/off, but she never gets the bonus stat at all. Could this be a bug in the PSP port itself, or is it a glitch somehow caused by the translation patch?
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Apr 29, 2024 09:41
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P5 was my first persona game and I loved it so much. I just finished playing P3R, P4G, and P5R back to back and P5R is definitely the weakest of the three for me. I still love it, but P4G and P3R just hit different.
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May 2, 2024 15:41
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I think I might be the only person in the world who didn’t start with P5 (I started with Revelations Persona before I knew what an SMT was) but who likes that one the best. Couldn’t tell ya why but I guess I’m a weird mutant.
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May 2, 2024 21:38
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Harrow posted:I think I might be the only person in the world who didn’t start with P5 (I started with Revelations Persona before I knew what an SMT was) but who likes that one the best. Couldn’t tell ya why but I guess I’m a weird mutant. I started with 3 and 5 is my favorite one. It’s gameplay is just so smooth to me in a way that kept me playing.
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May 2, 2024 21:57
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Yeah, as someone who played the games as they came out, it really is a wildly different experience in terms of tone and story. It's probably why 2 remains my favorite in terms of plot and characters.
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May 2, 2024 21:57
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I didn't start playing Persona until after P5 was out, but being a weirdo freak about these sort of things, my interest in P5 meant making myself go play P3FES and P4G (then Arena, Ultimax, and DAN), back-to-back-to-back, followed immediately by P5. That was a very anime-filled six months.
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Harrow posted:I think I might be the only person in the world who didn’t start with P5 (I started with Revelations Persona before I knew what an SMT was) but who likes that one the best. Couldn’t tell ya why but I guess I’m a weird mutant.
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May 2, 2024 22:21
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Okay, did a lot of searching around about the bug in EP where Maya doesn't get stat bonuses from the Source accessories and it's apparently got something to do with the translation patch. The people who made the patch mentioned that they found the source of the bug, but didn't bother posting what caused it or how to fix it. They also said they wanted to wait until other people reported a bunch of bugs to them so they can make a big final patch update....but this was back in 2022 and they haven't done anything of the sort at all, so lmao. It does seem like the patch causes a lot of problems in general, like the Legendary Weapons transforming back to base form after each fight. There's also a bug if you're playing this on an actual PSP where the game freezes while in the Velvet Room, which is apparently because of the "This patch was made by us" watermark they inserted when booting up the game that's causing memory leaks. I guess I can push through with the game, but finding out the patch is unstable is a huge momentum-killer. Especially with the drama of how the people who made this patch by inserting the PSX script (which had a really rough translation, especially around mid-game) had sniped the translation project from another group who was translating EP from the ground up.
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May 3, 2024 12:14
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my first Megami Tensei was Revelations: Persona, and then Revelations: The Demon Slayer, but only because Im a little baby with eyes too sensitive for viewing Jack Bros. in all its glory.... and for some reason I never owned a Sega Dreamcast for Maken X, one of the most epic fail and ftl descisions of my young life 
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May 3, 2024 12:43
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Every day's great at your Junes.
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For P3R: did they rewrite the Moon social link or am I just more empathetic now than I was in 2007? I can't help but feel awful for this kid.
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To my knowledge there are no changes, or least no major changes, for the script of that link. I do think voice acting for these does help accentuate the vibe that they were going for.
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I think the voice acting also changes how some of the social links come across.
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May 4, 2024 00:22
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There are fairly minor changes all over the place in the Reload Links (mainly inserted lines, from what I've seen). They don't really change my estimation of a lot of them but they're there.
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Harrow posted:I think I might be the only person in the world who didn’t start with P5 (I started with Revelations Persona before I knew what an SMT was) but who likes that one the best. Couldn’t tell ya why but I guess I’m a weird mutant. The music slaps so hard, so I’d guess that’s part of it.
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amigolupus posted:Okay, did a lot of searching around about the bug in EP where Maya doesn't get stat bonuses from the Source accessories and it's apparently got something to do with the translation patch. The people who made the patch mentioned that they found the source of the bug, but didn't bother posting what caused it or how to fix it. They also said they wanted to wait until other people reported a bunch of bugs to them so they can make a big final patch update....but this was back in 2022 and they haven't done anything of the sort at all, so lmao. It does seem like the patch causes a lot of problems in general, like the Legendary Weapons transforming back to base form after each fight. There's also a bug if you're playing this on an actual PSP where the game freezes while in the Velvet Room, which is apparently because of the "This patch was made by us" watermark they inserted when booting up the game that's causing memory leaks. woah thats p gnarly... the last comments on those from the patch maker were from last year at least so hopefully they get around to putting out a version without the bugs soon 🙏 was the cj patch going to be a fresh tl? i thought they were also pretty clear it'd just be the ps1 tl with some tweaks edit: oh maybe u could shoot the project lead an email or smth about the bugs? it might help Booky fucked around with this message at 02:59 on May 4, 2024 |
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May 4, 2024 02:55
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Clarste posted:I think the voice acting also changes how some of the social links come across. Nozomi's new portraits also help a lot I think since they go from 'angry fat kid' to 'just kinda pathetic but you don't want to punch it' face.
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May 4, 2024 02:59
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Nothing can save the gourmet king.
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I never actually went through the FemMC route besides maybe the first month or so; how much better are the new social links in comparison to the old ones?
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May 4, 2024 03:12
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a lot (except Justice for, uh, obvious reasons)
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Justice is okay if you DON'T DATE THE KID. Like it overshadows everything else about the link but if you ignore it exists then it's kind of just a SL about a kid trying to force himself to grow up too fast and there's a forced non-rank up event where you take him to That Back Alley and it's kinda nice. But nope, Atlus had to ruin it by putting that option in. But yeah, FeMC links are good, Saori's is a bit depressing but fine, and they kept the most important ones from Male MC in (Akinari and Bebe).
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Basically all of the bad links are gone, replaced with better links. That alone makes the feMC have better links.
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The only thing to know about the FeMC SLs is that Shinji and Ryoji both require fairly exacting schedules to max. Shinji might have one day of leeway (or possibly not even that) and Ryoji straight-up has zero non-mandatory events, including Sunday events, which are optional for every other character. e: also if you want to date Akihiko there's a trap option in his SL that can lock you out of it
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I do feel like the Moon link does end on a genuine high note that does make you think a little bit. In the grand scheme of things, Suemitsu is an existentially depressed kid who is eating himself to death and lashes out at the world in bizarre ways because he really doesn't have any power. Helping him realize that, move on, and turn a weakness into a strength is actually pretty interesting. I think he just could have done well to have at least one redeemable trait before you get to that point. I'd actually be really interested to see his reaction to the MC's death since he considered him a surrogate to his deceased brother.
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Yeah. If he liked, idk. To buy extra meals to hand out to the homeless so they could eat together or something, that would be appropriately pathetic and underline his loneliness while still being an objective positive thing.
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Arist posted:The only thing to know about the FeMC SLs is that Shinji and Ryoji both require fairly exacting schedules to max. Shinji might have one day of leeway (or possibly not even that) and Ryoji straight-up has zero non-mandatory events, including Sunday events, which are optional for every other character. Yeah Shinjiro has a day of leeway, from what I remember. Ryoji is pretty locked in though. One nice thing is also that three of the links get moved to nighttime, which makes them feel less dull (you'll still have more than enough time by the end of the game).
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CullenDaGaDee posted:I do feel like the Moon link does end on a genuine high note that does make you think a little bit. In the grand scheme of things, Suemitsu is an existentially depressed kid who is eating himself to death and lashes out at the world in bizarre ways because he really doesn't have any power. Helping him realize that, move on, and turn a weakness into a strength is actually pretty interesting. I think he just could have done well to have at least one redeemable trait before you get to that point. I'd actually be really interested to see his reaction to the MC's death since he considered him a surrogate to his deceased brother. I think what's making the difference this time around is that maybe the voice acting is selling what I think is Suemitsu's genuine affection for the MC. It's extra clear how he's reaching out and trying so hard to have a friend, and he really, really does care, but his worldview is just so hosed up that his care takes some pretty bizarre and ultimately harmful forms.
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ApplesandOranges posted:But yeah, FeMC links are good, Saori's is a bit depressing but fine, and they kept the most important ones from Male MC in (Akinari and Bebe). Oh man, yeah, Saori's story is a heartbreaker but very good imo. Fascinating character that I wish we could spend more time with. CullenDaGaDee posted:I do feel like the Moon link does end on a genuine high note that does make you think a little bit. In the grand scheme of things, Suemitsu is an existentially depressed kid who is eating himself to death and lashes out at the world in bizarre ways because he really doesn't have any power. Helping him realize that, move on, and turn a weakness into a strength is actually pretty interesting. I think he just could have done well to have at least one redeemable trait before you get to that point. I'd actually be really interested to see his reaction to the MC's death since he considered him a surrogate to his deceased brother. It's certainly better in the Reload, but I don't think I'll ever like that SL. I get what Atlus is trying to do with his story and I appreciate the idea, but I find his personality too grating, and the pacing's just awful. Majorian fucked around with this message at 04:41 on May 4, 2024 |
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I like it but I'm a kind hearted person. Some may say even jesus-like
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A Zack Snyder-type Christ-figure, even?
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P3 and P4 had a good batch of links with no 'everything is solved' solution (Saori, Akinari, Sayori, etc.). Doesn't really feel like P5 had that, just about everyone's conflict is resolved by the end of their link aside from the story ones.
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ApplesandOranges posted:P3 and P4 had a good batch of links with no 'everything is solved' solution (Saori, Akinari, Sayori, etc.). Doesn't really feel like P5 had that, just about everyone's conflict is resolved by the end of their link aside from the story ones. Ohya's felt pretty (purposefully) unresolved. Her former partner is still presumably catatonic. Hifumi's too, to some extent. Also on a much broader level, as much good as you've done by the end of the game, there's no hiding that Japan's institutions are still irreparably hosed. Shido's party still sweeps the elections, and while Yoshida wins his election, he's still very much a minority voice in the Diet. e: To me, the tone of P5's denouement is, "Welp, older generations (and we're not gonna say 'capitalism' but you drat well know that's at fault too) have well and truly wrecked this ship. It's up to you, now, younger generations! You've got a long road ahead of you but you can do it!" (lol, lmao) Majorian fucked around with this message at 00:02 on May 5, 2024 |
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Smash the state and destroy all the institutions of the adults, but also uhhhh uhhhh
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Your Uncle Dracula posted:Smash the state and destroy all the institutions of the adults, but also uhhhh Do your homework, do your laundry, listen to your therapist until after New Years. \/\/\/yeah, I like that better\/\/\/ Majorian fucked around with this message at 00:22 on May 5, 2024 |
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Majorian posted:Do your homework, do your laundry, listen to your therapist until after New Years. Still listen to them but realize that they might need some therapy as well.
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Sure, the institutions all failed and justice won't actually happen, but you should turn yourself in for that crime you didn't commit.
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Makoto: I'm going to become chief of police to fix the system! Zenkichi: lol, lmao Katsuya (probably): LMFAO
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