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The Acolyte trailer also has that fan-film vibe that's easy to spot but hard to articulate. Flashy fight choreography. A camera that feels unmotivated and floaty with slight push ins all over the place. Limited set sizes. Ponderous closeups. Insisting on a Cool New Twist on things you recognize and not trusting that the audience will notice if it isn't emphasized. All exacerbated by the quick cut epic trailer style and generic music. Compare to the Andor teaser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5UX1Adanis The one second shot at 0:48 was when I knew we were in good hands, just perfect. e: and the multi-directional elevators at 1:01 really sealed the deal, virtuosic take on the Lucas obsession with abstract motion and momentum. Yes it's miserable gritty Star Spies but it's still also Star Wars. Prolonged Panorama fucked around with this message at 23:00 on May 4, 2024 |
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May 4, 2024 23:22
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Larryb posted:There are no more new shows on the horizon currently after Skeleton Crew right? I know Andor and Ahsoka are getting another season eventually and I believe Mando is getting both the movie AND a Season 4 if I heard correctly More broadly it seems like The Mouse is winding down the live action Marvel shows as well.
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I saw the exclusive Acolyte scene at my TPM screening and if it helps I definitely thought "finally, a well-choreographed fight scene in a Star Wars show" though thinking on it, the butcher shop fight in BOBF was also pretty sick imo
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(sidenote: for those of you following Sector Command, my SW strategy game, we're back up and running again over in the Game Room thread)
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Darth Vader getting a chair to sit in instead of being allowed to loom ominously over the Inquisitors is a weird choice
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1st AD posted:I'm not even talking about set extensions or green screen or whatever. The cinematography and color treatment give the show the appearance of being as if I were watching a stage play that was being filmed with the most rudimentary of lighting. Compare this to scenes from Andor where, even when they are set extensions or even fully green screen, they look like they're all in a realistic world where cameras happen to be filming this scene. Prolonged Panorama posted:The Acolyte trailer also has that fan-film vibe that's easy to spot but hard to articulate. I'm glad it wasn't just who got that vibe of something being off. Star Wars shots always feel so incredibly well thought out. There's a depth to them, things happening at multiple distances to give a sense of scale and that this is an ancient, slightly run down galaxy. The Acolyte footage felt small and closed in.
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Madurai posted:(sidenote: for those of you following Sector Command, my SW strategy game, we're back up and running again over in the Game Room thread) More people should join this btw, it's really fun
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MMAgCh posted:Tales of the Empire Nothing to say about the Morgan Elsbeth stuff, it's boring and so is she. The Barris stuff is more disappointing in that there's the heart of a really good idea in her final CW appearance, though in truth her disillusionment in that episode is far too brief to really be compelling beyond the basic idea of it. This was their chance to follow up on that... and they didn't really. There are some sops thrown to the idea that she still takes umbrage with the Jedi in the first two episodes, but by the end of that she is totally onboard with calling herself a Jedi, wistfully recalling the days when the Jedi would come and take small children from their families, etc. It would have been far more interesting for Bariss to initially embrace the Empire, seeing them as the way to rid the galaxy of a class of soldiers who vindicated her ideas by trying to assassinate the chancellor and seize power in a coup. Naturally she'd eventually figure out the new boss is the same as the old boss, but the scene with the child would hit much more interestingly if she realized that the Empire was kidnapping Force-sensitive children just as the Jedi had done and that's what caused her to walk away. Also, I love the Clone Wars art style and I hope something comes along to keep using it, but the Grand Inquisitor looks really bad somehow, I can't put my finger on it. Everything else is great, though.
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Tales of the Empire was fine, but nowhere near as good as Tales of the Jedi. Just kind of…there. Morgan’s story was boring, and Barris’s story was pretty good. But nothing game changing like TofJ.
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The revelation of the Mountain Clan “Daysisters” was interesting, at least. The subtitles name them as witches, too.
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thrawn527 posted:Tales of the Empire was fine, but nowhere near as good as Tales of the Jedi. Just kind of…there. Morgan’s story was boring, and Barris’s story was pretty good. But nothing game changing like TofJ. Yeah, it paled in comparison to episodes we got about Dooku's turn to the dark side.
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Cross-Section posted:Why they made her fate so ambiguous (and why they made her look so old despite it only being 10-15 years later) is beyond me lol She's like 35 years old and looks fine. She was a full Jedi Knight when she bombed the temple. WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 15:37 on May 5, 2024 |
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Watch Tales of the Empire. I found both stories somewhat nonsensical in that both characters seem to do things without any explanation of why. Morgan especially goes from having her village wiped out by the droid separatists and then she's later a local semi-warlord who wants revenge on.. the droids? Haven't the separatists already been defeated by this point and Grievous killed? And then the last episode is her just going "gently caress everything" I guess. Even Barris I have no idea why she is in prison or going along with the Empire. I didn't watch Clone Wars or whatever so I have no idea who she is so it would have been good if the show gave us some more insight into her. Instead, she seems pretty apprehensive from the start so it wasn't particularly surprising when she turned on Lyn later. The fact that she watched Lyn wipe out that village and only gave some minor protest is kind of bizarre. And why am I supposed to care about Lyn? Is she also a character from a previous show? Her character shown onscreen is basically just Angry Fascist for like 95% of her screentime lol Altogether pretty disappointing compared to the amazing first season/series. Even knowing who Dooku is, you have a lot of empathy for him watching him deal with endless Jedi and Republic bullshit while he's the only one questioning why these things are happening koolkal fucked around with this message at 19:21 on May 5, 2024 |
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Apparently Lyn debuted in the Obi-Wan series, I forgot she existed too.
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Wait, now Morgan Elspeth invented the TIE Defender? Had we seen any hint of that kind of technical ability before?
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Madurai posted:Wait, now Morgan Elspeth invented the TIE Defender? Had we seen any hint of that kind of technical ability before? And I suppose witnessing her clan being decimated by droids would be incentive to learning how they work to destroy them solves my question "why would a Dathomir witch have any technical aptitude at all?"
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koolkal posted:Watch Tales of the Empire. Yeah, I watched Tales of the Empire with my parents, because they happened to be over this weekend and loved Tales of the Jedi but didn’t watch Clone Wars, and they had a lot of questions about Barris. When I explained her backstory, they thought it was cool, but A) thought they should have mentioned some of it in the show itself and B) were expecting it to have some ramifications with Vader. They were let down by both, understandably.
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Yeah honestly, Vader could have really hosed her up by just thanking her for helping him see the corrupt ways of the Jedi
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I like how in ep 2 of the new cartoon thrawn articulates a reasoned materialist analysis why he thinks the empire isn't sustainable and he's right but the real reason is the head of state loses a wizard fight.
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Owlbear Camus posted:I like how in ep 2 of the new cartoon thrawn articulates a reasoned materialist analysis why he thinks the empire isn't sustainable and he's right but the real reason is the head of state loses a wizard fight. Now look, he actually loses a wrestling match
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I suppose the simplest and possibly intended answer is that the person who'd have cared about her crimes and her betrayal of Ahsoka (Anakin Skywalker) is gone, while Darth Vader has no particular reason to feel strongly about Barriss either way. Which is not to say that doing nothing more with Vader than having him ominously enter the room and sit on a grim throne was a good choice, but then again her TotE arc as a whole felt fragmentary like that.
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I think a lot of the issues with this series could’ve been solved by having more than 45 minutes dedicated to each character. TotJ worked because we’ve seen Ahsoka and Dooku for years across multiple media so we already have a firm grasp of their personalities and motivations and getting various snippets of their lives helps to flesh out some long unanswered background questions about the greater world. Barriss was prominent in a few arcs of Clone Wars and her TotE episodes felt like a truncated wrap up of some stuff they didn’t have time to get to with Clone Wars’ cancellation and brief final season. Morgan was in less than a dozen live action episodes as a secondary antagonist, mostly sharing screen time with far more interesting and nuanced characters (Thrawn, Baylin). Her first episode of TotE was more interesting mostly in spite of her, but I generally liked it as an origin for her bitterness and spitefulness. I hoped the subsequent ones would’ve shown how she grew to be calculating and ruthless but she’s already installed herself as magistrate offscreen and that’s just it for her character for the remaining two episodes. She gets a decent fight with Rukh but is otherwise the same Morgan we meet in Mandalorian. No greater history or motivations beyond generalized anger. I also feel like she probably didn’t actually design the Defender herself but just brought the blueprints of a subordinate to the Empire, as she’s never once been shown to have any mechanical or technical aptitude.
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I saw the Acolyte sneak peek during TPM re-release. It looks really good. Absolutely didn't look cheap on the big screen and its got me very excited for the show, I will elaborate why but I have to talk about the scene so: Its a fight between Carrie-Ann Moss & Amanda Stenberg's character. First Stenberg takes out a bunch of bar thugs but then she goes after Moss and its just a really fun fight scene. Its in a practical set, a bar, and the scene maintains the geography of the space well and utilizes the set in good ways. Its very Crouching Tiger / Wushu / Anime inspired, from Moss doing the master martial artist basically using one hand to stenberg sliding back from the force push with a dynamic animu pose. Given that I like many of the creators involved I am going to give it the huge benefit of the doubt on the writing and directing especially. Really hope the rest of the show is in line with what the teaser showed.
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I was gonna say, I've been getting big Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon vibes from all The Acolyte stuff that's been teased.
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Finished Bad Batch and that was a really cool show. This last season was visually dark as hell, though. Watching it in a dark room, changing my TV settings, didn't really matter. Where did all the light and colour go? In hindsight after that last ep I think the season should have been way less about Omega locked up and more about them facing off against the evil mirror crew. Still fun overall but the high points of action and tension happened in earlier seasons. Might have been someone in this thread but I saw a little while ago someone being disappointed that the rest of the Bad Batch seemed to have stopped fighting after the finale but I liked it. I prefer imagining that my favourite heroic characters can actually cool it at some point in their lives instead of fighting right up until they drop dead.
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https://twitter.com/starwars/status/1787512654984081844 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O77VTIAYGVA
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Lobok posted:Finished Bad Batch and that was a really cool show. This last season was visually dark as hell, though. Watching it in a dark room, changing my TV settings, didn't really matter. Where did all the light and colour go? Someone posted a video upthread that it was because of both how they did the HD compression and that they most likely used super expensive reference monitors when making the episodes which look like rear end on a lot of different consumer level stuff. Also, the compression used in the US was different from that used in Commonwealth countries, so if you're in the UK or Australia, streaming the shows made them look like liquid rear end. e: here Vintersorg posted:It happened again with House of the Dragon. There was a nighttime beach scene and some people couldn't see poo poo.
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Darth Jar Jar 
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AndyElusive posted:Darth Jar Jar It gets better. https://x.com/AgentsFandom/status/1787522510319157457
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Huh, it’s been a while since we had a Lego series (though it’s apparently only going to be 4 episodes long)
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AndyElusive posted:Darth Jar Jar Darth Darth Binks
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I would like to know more about the ewok bounty hunters please
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Someone posted a video upthread that it was because of both how they did the HD compression and that they most likely used super expensive reference monitors when making the episodes which look like rear end on a lot of different consumer level stuff. Interesting, ok, thank you. I'm in Canada so I don't know where we fall in that definition, lol. Sometimes we are considered some distant, foreign place and other times we are domestic like sure, we're just another part of the States.
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If Jedi Bob was ever translated into live-action, I wonder who'd play him and what role he'd play in a story (Beyond biting it during Order 66, I suppose, since he's technically a PT character that came with the 2002 Lego Republic Gunship set)  Working with the Hidden Path, perhaps? Ahmed's Jedi character, since Lego Yellow™ can turn into whatever you need it to be?
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I'm very glad but I honestly just assumed it was him anyway. I feel like you can't have anyone else voice JJB if it's not Best.
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Kind of like Tony Daniels and 3PO I’m pretty sure Best has played Jar Jar in almost everything, yeah (sort of surprised he keeps coming back honestly considering all the undeserved poo poo he personally got back in the day)
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That's partially because after we all failed Jake Lloyd it's now a general consensus that anybody who shits on Best nowadays gets a fuckin slap in the mouf.
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