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Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008


Ho Chi Minh, ruler of the Vietnamese Empire.

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Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Fister Roboto posted:

Ho Chi Minh, ruler of the Vietnamese Empire.

Che I of Cuba.

ELTON JOHN
Feb 17, 2014
nm

ELTON JOHN has issued a correction as of 07:45 on May 7, 2024

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

camoseven posted:

someone explain the korean war philippines thing to me cause it was not covered in my public school history class and i never watched MASH

the Battle of Yultong was fought during the latter part of the Korean War - after MacArthur crossed over the 38th parallel and drove north close enough to the Chinese border at the Yalu river, the PRC entered the conflict and drove the US and US-aligned forces back in a headlong retreat

within that period, the US 3rd Infantry Division was set to withdraw along a road, Route 33, with the Philippine 10th Battalion Combat Team covering the crossroads of Route 33, and a Turkish brigade covering the right flank of the sector

three Chinese corps attacked along this north-south axis, and the 10th BCT's 900 soldiers held onto the critical hill at Yultong for an entire day while the 3rd Infantry made good their retreat. As the story goes, the Filipinos suffered 56 casualties while inflicting as many as ten times that number against the attacking Chinese forces

in today's age of rapidly heightening tensions with Beijing, this is held up by nationalist Filipinos as an exemplar of Philippine military might

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

americans would be like we had a land war with china?!

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable

gradenko_2000 posted:

the Battle of Yultong was fought during the latter part of the Korean War - after MacArthur crossed over the 38th parallel and drove north close enough to the Chinese border at the Yalu river, the PRC entered the conflict and drove the US and US-aligned forces back in a headlong retreat

within that period, the US 3rd Infantry Division was set to withdraw along a road, Route 33, with the Philippine 10th Battalion Combat Team covering the crossroads of Route 33, and a Turkish brigade covering the right flank of the sector

three Chinese corps attacked along this north-south axis, and the 10th BCT's 900 soldiers held onto the critical hill at Yultong for an entire day while the 3rd Infantry made good their retreat. As the story goes, the Filipinos suffered 56 casualties while inflicting as many as ten times that number against the attacking Chinese forces

in today's age of rapidly heightening tensions with Beijing, this is held up by nationalist Filipinos as an exemplar of Philippine military might

Excuse me, please correct your disinformation Valor. 3rd infantry is army, not marines as you previously stated. The audacity to disparage the 3rd, home of 15th infantry regiment, "the old China hands", named for spending the first quarter of the 20th century guarding western imperialist assets in China.

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable
Ahahah discovering the existence of the United States army dental command at 430 in the morning is loving sending me.



The U.S. Army Dental Command, known as DENCOM is a major subordinate command of the U.S. Army Medical Command that provides command and control of the Army's fixed-facility dental treatment facilities, preventive care, dental research, development and training institutions, dental treatment to ensure the oral health and readiness of the force, a trained dental force for worldwide deployment, and structures for evolving missions of the Army.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Asproigerosis posted:

Excuse me, please correct your disinformation Valor. 3rd infantry is army, not marines as you previously stated. The audacity to disparage the 3rd, home of 15th infantry regiment, "the old China hands", named for spending the first quarter of the 20th century guarding western imperialist assets in China.

Community notes!!! :argh:

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

Asproigerosis posted:

Ahahah discovering the existence of the United States army dental command at 430 in the morning is loving sending me.



The U.S. Army Dental Command, known as DENCOM is a major subordinate command of the U.S. Army Medical Command that provides command and control of the Army's fixed-facility dental treatment facilities, preventive care, dental research, development and training institutions, dental treatment to ensure the oral health and readiness of the force, a trained dental force for worldwide deployment, and structures for evolving missions of the Army.


What kind of dental war crimes do you think they get up to? Stealing children's teeth?

Rubellavator
Aug 16, 2007

sleep with the vicious posted:

what in the goddamn gently caress

she's kooky!

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

comedyblissoption posted:

americans would be like we had a land war with china?!

At least twice counting the Opium Wars.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

DrManiac posted:

What kind of dental war crimes do you think they get up to? Stealing children's teeth?

The Tooth Fairy Industrial System

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void


It’s always projection with these creepos

People starving and in jail? Couldn’t be America!

Gorson
Aug 29, 2014

We've had the world's highest incarceration rate since 2002

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011


When you want to play the monopoly game in a socialist country...

A Good Meme

CN CREW-VESSEL
Feb 1, 2024

敌人磨刀我们也磨刀

Ghost Leviathan posted:

At least twice counting the Opium Wars.

Americans didn't fight in the Opium Wars.

The Yanks started to arrive on China Station during the Taiping, and made their presence known during the Boxer Rebellion and siege of the Legations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJdGxLZ5qzE

Lin-Manuel Turtle
Jul 12, 2023

CN CREW-VESSEL posted:

Americans didn't fight in the Opium Wars.

The Yanks started to arrive on China Station during the Taiping, and made their presence known during the Boxer Rebellion and siege of the Legations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJdGxLZ5qzE

Found a good succ paper

Center for European Studies Working Paper Series #136
China as “Victim”?
The Opium War That Wasn’t
by
Harry G. Gelber
Visiting Scholar, Center for European Studies Harvard University

https://ces.fas.harvard.edu/uploads/files/Working-Papers-Archives/CES_WP136.pdf

Abstract
The 1840-42 Anglo-Chinese war (the so-called “Opium War”) is almost universally believed to have been triggered by British imperial rapacity and determination to sell more and more opium into China. That belief is mistaken. The British went to war because of Chinese military threats to defenseless British civilians, including women and children; because China refused to negotiate on terms of diplomatic equality and because China refused to open more ports than Canton to trade, not just with Britain but with everybody. The belief about British “guilt” came later, as part of China’s long catalogue of alleged Western “exploitation and aggression.”

A good quote in there:
Above all, free trade was becoming a moral imperative. A dozen years later the chief British official in China was Sir John Bowring. Passionately Christian, and well con- nected in radical circles in London, he coined the dictum: “Free trade is Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ is free trade.”

CN CREW-VESSEL
Feb 1, 2024

敌人磨刀我们也磨刀
lol I was reading British newspapers from the 1860's that made those exact arguments

:psyduck:

I didn't realize people were arguing that free trade was a moral imperative in this century.

Scarabrae
Oct 7, 2002

Asproigerosis posted:

Ahahah discovering the existence of the United States army dental command at 430 in the morning is loving sending me.



The U.S. Army Dental Command, known as DENCOM is a major subordinate command of the U.S. Army Medical Command that provides command and control of the Army's fixed-facility dental treatment facilities, preventive care, dental research, development and training institutions, dental treatment to ensure the oral health and readiness of the force, a trained dental force for worldwide deployment, and structures for evolving missions of the Army.

Starfleet Dental is real?

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

https://x.com/airplaneian/status/1787664159410102750?s=46

lol

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

"poster"

pencilhands
Aug 20, 2022

video game designer

CN CREW-VESSEL
Feb 1, 2024

敌人磨刀我们也磨刀
They've really fallen off since Depression Quest.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Lin-Manuel Turtle posted:

Found a good succ paper

Center for European Studies Working Paper Series #136
China as “Victim”?
The Opium War That Wasn’t
by
Harry G. Gelber
Visiting Scholar, Center for European Studies Harvard University

https://ces.fas.harvard.edu/uploads/files/Working-Papers-Archives/CES_WP136.pdf

Abstract
The 1840-42 Anglo-Chinese war (the so-called “Opium War”) is almost universally believed to have been triggered by British imperial rapacity and determination to sell more and more opium into China. That belief is mistaken. The British went to war because of Chinese military threats to defenseless British civilians, including women and children; because China refused to negotiate on terms of diplomatic equality and because China refused to open more ports than Canton to trade, not just with Britain but with everybody. The belief about British “guilt” came later, as part of China’s long catalogue of alleged Western “exploitation and aggression.”

A good quote in there:
Above all, free trade was becoming a moral imperative. A dozen years later the chief British official in China was Sir John Bowring. Passionately Christian, and well con- nected in radical circles in London, he coined the dictum: “Free trade is Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ is free trade.”

loving Harvard lmao

VoicesCanBe
Jul 1, 2023

"Cóż, wygląda na to, że zostaliśmy łaskawie oszczędzeni trudu decydowania o własnym losie. Jakże uprzejme z ich strony, że przearanżowali Europę bez kłopotu naszego zdania!"

Wow that guy is a moron

Even by the stupid liberal definition of imperialism most of these are nonsensical.

Stalin, okay. Still not an imperialist but working with their stupid liberal definition I guess so maybe.

Lenin? Lmao

Ho Chi Minh and Kim il-Sung, I know what he's getting at, but "the North invaded the South!" in both cases is a laughable interpretation, it's middle school tier history which tbf is probably still beyond NAFO

I can't even turn my head and squint to see where they're going with Che, that's gotta be "I don't like him therefore he's an imperialist"

Same with Pol Pot but gently caress Pol Pot anyway so don't really care.

VoicesCanBe has issued a correction as of 13:28 on May 7, 2024

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:




This is an op because there's zero chance anyone in Poland would be this supportive of a jew

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

VoicesCanBe posted:

Wow that guy is a moron

Even by the stupid liberal definition of imperialism most of these are nonsensical.

Communist Vietnam imperialistically invaded Kampuchea, tankie!

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Pol Pot sits securely in the "I've never actually met anyone who says he was good but I'm pretty sure all my enemies secretly think so" camp

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable

Scarabrae posted:

Starfleet Dental is real?

There was many other funny official military units with real designations and coat of arms like the United States army human resources command, the 215th finance Battalion, 35th Fighter Wing Sexual Assault Prevention and Response (SAPR) Office

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

https://x.com/thehill/status/1787828741118279872

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



From that article ^

quote:

The office of the State Department’s special envoy to combat antisemitism will convene technology firms to discuss how to best address antisemitic content.

e: You're right; didn't want to start a derail. Taibbi and Willa warned us and I was one of the ones who thought the Twitter Files was a lot of nothing. I was wrong; they were right.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald has issued a correction as of 15:17 on May 7, 2024

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021

So what are the new guidelines, The Hill? The gently caress is this empty press release bullshit?

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

CN CREW-VESSEL posted:

Americans didn't fight in the Opium Wars.

The Yanks started to arrive on China Station during the Taiping, and made their presence known during the Boxer Rebellion and siege of the Legations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJdGxLZ5qzE

i propose a cspam Simul-Watch thread

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

gradenko_2000 posted:

Communist Vietnam imperialistically invaded Kampuchea, tankie!

Multiple people in the comments mentioned that despite the fact that Ho Chi Minh was long dead by the time that happened.

Facts have no power here!

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

CN CREW-VESSEL posted:

Americans didn't fight in the Opium Wars.

The Yanks started to arrive on China Station during the Taiping, and made their presence known during the Boxer Rebellion and siege of the Legations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJdGxLZ5qzE

the comments on this one own, why werent there any chinese actors playing the main parts? lol

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

lol ukraine flags

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
john brown was an imperialist but y'all are not ready for that conversation

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

From that article ^

So there you go: more censorship.

Here's your form

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

SixteenShells posted:

So what are the new guidelines, The Hill? The gently caress is this empty press release bullshit?

people want to know that Something Is Being Done, but hearing any of the actual things being done would obviously make them mad because they are objectively bad things

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HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009


a giant R

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