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Rochallor posted:I was gonna say that UPN probably had less money to throw around than WB, but looking into it UPN won the bid by offering 2.3 million an episode version 1 million from the WB. Which is... weird, because I'd agree that the show looks noticeably worse in the last few seasons. Maybe some producer was embezzling some of it. The cast was probably getting more expensive that deep into the run, especially SMG and Alyson Hannigan in the early 2000s, since they were breaking out in mainstream stuff, too. I don't think Buffy looks worse in S6 + 7 though. Although come to think of it, maybe budget was a reason they spend so much of season 7 in Buffy's house just like they spend so much of season 5 of Angel in the W+H set. Plus, they were using CGI more often and it's not good.
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Constantly using SMG as the face of the First instead of paying different actors,
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Saving a ton of wardrobe money on having Spike go shirtless
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Hulu has seasons 4 onward in 16:9 for some reason and I found my first goof. In the second part of the Buffy/Faith body swap two parter when the scoobies show up at the church where Adam's vampires are holding people hostage, Willow is visible and talking but Alyson Hannigan's mouth isn't moving. Clearly dubbed in later and wouldn't be visible if cropped for 4:3.
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Doctor Teeth posted:Hulu has seasons 4 onward in 16:9 for some reason and I found my first goof. In the second part of the Buffy/Faith body swap two parter when the scoobies show up at the church where Adam's vampires are holding people hostage, Willow is visible and talking but Alyson Hannigan's mouth isn't moving. Clearly dubbed in later and wouldn't be visible if cropped for 4:3. There is one of these in every widescreen episode. Like, every, single one.
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Dark Willow is so deeply cringe. Fremdschämen for quip kids in the 90/00s emo phase.
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G-Spot Run posted:Dark Willow is so deeply cringe. Fremdschämen for quip kids in the 90/00s emo phase. Maybe but the flaying of Warren remains fuckin brutal
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DrBouvenstein posted:Lorney Toons? "Stop calling me ... pastries."
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Rochallor posted:It's been a couple years since I last watched Angel, but I remember being pretty impressed with how Angelus was used in S4. It helps that it's a card the show plays extremely rarely, even when Angelus is an idea that baked into the title character. It's what, 3-4 episodes in this season and that one in the first season where somebody gives Angel ecstasy, and that it outside of flashbacks, right? I would say it’s the opposite, Angelus is a character they used far too much, and each time he would be written worse. If I remember correctly season 4 was the one where everyone was warned ahead of time that he would say means things to them, and they still seemed surprised by it.
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GoutPatrol posted:There is one of these in every widescreen episode. Like, every, single one. No kidding. I saw another one in the season 4 finale when Tara, Willow, Xander and Anya are in the ice cream truck in Xander's dream. Tara is talking but her mouth isn't moving. I could've found more but I haven't been actively looking. These are just the ones that stuck out so much I couldn't miss it. I forgot how weird the season 4 finale is.
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Doctor Teeth posted:No kidding. I saw another one in the season 4 finale when Tara, Willow, Xander and Anya are in the ice cream truck in Xander's dream. Tara is talking but her mouth isn't moving.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqurJiW9M3s&t=14s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kApY41_o60 Man, my lovely attention span is killing me. The reason why I never finished my Buffy re-watch is also why I'm tempted to put my Krakoa X-Men reading on hold to switch to going through the history of Daredevil comics. That and it just be so much simpler. I just pick a Daredevil issue and keep going straight ahead, instead of having to consult a separate tab's reading list like I'm doing with trying to catch up on X-men. Only exttra work I'd have to do is read the occasional mini or some Spiderman or Punisher stuff. I guess a bit more relevant here is I had no idea Joss Whedon was such an important figure for X-Men. Just hanging out in X-Men conversations for the past two months has given me a decent lay of the land in terms of opinions and the history of the franchise. Whedon's X-Men is held right there with Grant Morrison for ushering the comics out of a dark age. It's kinda funny because the only comics I ever knew from him before this were the much-ridiculed Buffy/Angel continuations.
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I lost my everloving MIND at that ending, with him on the roof. Just died laughing.
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Watching the second season of Daredevil you could really tell how TMNT was parody of Miller's Daredevil run.
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Saw the next episode of Angel, S1E17, Eternity, the one with the girl who laces Angel's drink with drugs to make him artificially happy, thus, turning him temporarily into Angelus. Couple of critiques: they play REAL fast and loose with the "vampire can't enter a building uninvited" rule, since he broke the window and dived into her home after a party went on he obviously wasn't privy to. Second, if they truly made Angel happy enough to be Angelus, why didn't they have to Orb of Thesula that soul back into him? I did appreciate how Cordy is an AWFUL actress when it's her job, but a great one when the chips are down and everything's riding on it. Cordy Dated Insult of the Episode: "He's just socially retarded."
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Good Lord, I hate Where the Wild Things Are. Spike and Anya have great repartee, but jeez, I get tired of seeing Xander be cruel to Anya and Riley and Buffy boning. Even things that should be really amazing, like Giles getting to sing, are ruined by the fact that it's a song by a band I hate, Coldplay. The whole premise is stupid anyway: lots of repressed hormones created poltergeists that use all the sexin' energy of a superpowered couple to fuel shenanigans. The next episode was pretty cool. Return of Oz, making Riley have to decide where he stood on the whole, "Every demon = bad," idea. It makes it almost understandable then, where he takes this theme next season. It's just weird that the show blatantly says, "Not every demon is bad," then treats Anya and Spike like poo poo. Not to mention, if they're torturing Oz, you know they do worse with other demons. It's giving the ethics of Tuskegee, seriously, but I suppose that's a realistic portrayal of what would happen if spookies like that did go bump in the night and the government knew. On the plus side, we finally have confirmation on Tillow!  I love them together, at least this season and the next. Season 6 though... YIKES. Take the nicest relationship and throw a Molotov cocktail into the fray.
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Behind Blue Eyes is absolutely not a Coldplay song
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Pinterest Mom posted:Behind Blue Eyes is absolutely not a Coldplay song Wasn't it a Limp Bizkit song?
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Just like Smooth Criminal is an Alien Ant Farm song, sure.
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Pinterest Mom posted:Behind Blue Eyes is absolutely not a Coldplay song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frf0HepcB7w Nah it's a Dan Stevens song
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Alhazred posted:Wasn't it a Limp Bizkit song? That's even worse. 
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Behind Blue Eyes is The Who. Pete Townshend.
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I remember always scrunching my nose up and pretending to hiss and have fangs like the vampires in this show. Spike made me gay. Sire me.
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Finished Buffy. The finale suffers somewhat for being overstuffed, meaning that we don't get a very strong final confrontation with The First, and for being the blueprint for dozens of other finales since. But that's only because it "works", though the significance of the achievement has been somewhat dulled by the ages IMO. Unfortunately, this means that the only real surprise for my friend was Anya's death, which is tremendously effective and brutal. Everything else plays out pretty much as expected. I do think the runup to the finale is surprisingly effective, and is one of the most compelling arcs on the show. I'm impressed that they were still finding new angles to work on Buffy, the character, and Buffy, the show, even this far in. Even the ending sets up a new status quo that could have run for a long period of time IMO -- though this was definitely the right place to stop -- which I think speaks to the depth of the the characters and the strength of the writing.
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Speaking of finales, the Angel finale aired almost exactly 20 years ago (and the Buffy finale a year before that.) Twenty years of no Buffyverse content other than comics. Definitely shows you how different TV/movie production was back then, when you compare it to the "no original IP, keep the inter-connected universe going perpetually" train we're on now, for better or worse. DrBouvenstein fucked around with this message at 13:32 on May 30, 2024 |
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Watched the Serenity last night with mates (so we're done with both Firefly and Buffy now, and just have the last season and a third of Angel to go). I still think it's very impressive. It looks and functions as a film, rather than a TV show finale, and is incredibly well structured -- which is something that Mutant Enemy productions still do much better than pretty much anything else out there. In particular, the transitions between the first dozen or scenes are fantastic, as are the various ways Whedon contrives to demonstrate River's psychic abilities by breaking or interrupting typical cutting patterns using partial fades, fourth wall breaks, etc. The first act vehicular chase scene is also just spectacular, and it's so nice to see that it's obviously achieved largely with practical effects. It still looks really, really good. The third act sequence space battle, on the other hand, looks less good, but even that's full of inventive and characterful ideas. There's some stuff here that doesn't work -- the film's hacker character, Mister Universe, owns an entire planet!? Sure -- but it holds together pretty drat well. I also really love the villain, and it makes me sad that Firefly never really had Big Bads in the same way other Mutant Enemy shows did. The Operative's as moral as it's possible to be while working as an embodiment of the law, which he acknowledges is actually not remotely moral. Still, he's unfailingly polite, prepared, open and diplomatic, and seems genuinely insistent upon his ethics despite generating the energy of being completely loving untrustworthy. It'd have been great to see a character like this run his course over an entire season of television, as he slowly becomes more and more delapidated and desperate -- aesthetically monstrous in a way that mirrors his personal insistence on his immorality.
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