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blatman
May 10, 2009

14 inc dont mez


crypto cryptids are mining bitcoin in the in-between space between this world and the next

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WEH
Feb 22, 2009

my bony fealty posted:

I've listened to the first two parts and am deeply unimpressed so far, they spend a ton of time completely speculating about "well if hoax, why did they do this, it doesn't make sense" and then just kinda act like that must be what's true. And write off all criticism of Patterson as a known fraudster as "well he doesn't seem like that to me."

Outside of the video itself the weight of evidence in favor of a hoax is tremendous. That Patterson himself drew a picture of a big titty bigfoot is kinda the smoking gun for me.

The video, idk, always just looked like a guy in a suit to me.

Maybe in 30 hours when I've finished the series they will have convinced me

iirc I had the same reaction (and definitely thought the film was fake) initially and it ended up changing my mind, but maybe I should listen to it again lol

Rickshaw
Apr 11, 2004

just a coconut going for a stroll

my bony fealty posted:

I've listened to the first two parts and am deeply unimpressed so far, they spend a ton of time completely speculating about "well if hoax, why did they do this, it doesn't make sense" and then just kinda act like that must be what's true. And write off all criticism of Patterson as a known fraudster as "well he doesn't seem like that to me."

Outside of the video itself the weight of evidence in favor of a hoax is tremendous. That Patterson himself drew a picture of a big titty bigfoot is kinda the smoking gun for me.

The video, idk, always just looked like a guy in a suit to me.

Maybe in 30 hours when I've finished the series they will have convinced me

In my experience you have to listen to astonishing legends precisely because you want to burn 30 hours listening to some dudes talk in a not particularly time-conscious sort of way. I found their patterson-gimlin series totally unconvincing but it was was fun/frustrating listening to them be convinced.

endocriminologist
May 17, 2021

SUFFERINGLOVER:press send + soul + earth lol
inncntsoul:ok

(inncntsoul has left the game)

ARCHON_MASTER:lol
MAMMON69:lol
Astonishing legends would be way better if either of the hosts had any charisma at all

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

Rickshaw posted:

If this is the same guy I used to follow on youtube (sounds like him) then he's an electric universe crank and his interest in space weather is that he thinks it causes earthquakes

been saying this

raspurtin
Apr 18, 2005

This is a great video on Bigfoot in native traditions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zJhJsdoTYQ

TLDW if you're using native american mythology to pump your grift you need to shut the gently caress up.

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

disclosure was achieved in 1997 with the release of the film The Shadow Men

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



is the plural of bigfoot bigfoots or bigfeet

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!
"friends"

helta
Jun 16, 2018

going back to my roots

https://twitter.com/ChrisKMellon/status/1788677459585519863

helta
Jun 16, 2018

going back to my roots

https://twitter.com/AskaPol_UAPs/status/1788670851010670690

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010


stop all the playing Mellon

we all know this was a long game

WEH
Feb 22, 2009


bro is at least 50 and doesnt know how to tie a tie. hitler hair cut. making synthol lue look normal smdh

helta
Jun 16, 2018

going back to my roots

Edit: in case u don't know what's going on....

https://twitter.com/TheUfoJoe/status/1788269210856202408

Ohhhhhhhh snap.

https://twitter.com/BrandonFugal/status/1788708348340187605

helta has issued a correction as of 00:58 on May 10, 2024

helta
Jun 16, 2018

going back to my roots

https://twitter.com/patternspodcast/status/1788710579588280530

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

what the gently caress is going on
it's like a stove full of pots each threatening to boil but none of them ever getting there

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!
institutional senescence, op

isaboo
Nov 11, 2002

Muay Buok
ขอให้โชคดี

What did Dragon have to say?!?!

helta
Jun 16, 2018

going back to my roots

isaboo posted:

What did Dragon have to say?!?!

Just don't dig!

helta
Jun 16, 2018

going back to my roots

Lol m(b?)illionaire mormans dunking on the mic

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Disclosure just got set back a decade:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTL44vcMj/

helta
Jun 16, 2018

going back to my roots

https://twitter.com/LueElizondo/status/1788724750992257077

https://twitter.com/jamescfox/status/1788725069910307126

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Rickshaw posted:

I've also been in one of my mystical upswings and reading / listening to / studying Richard Rose some more. I've posted about him before in this thread. There isn't a lot of information about him on the internet but with some digging I've found some of his talks and interviews with his students.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_FWhVTDZtc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28Zd6QRfGw8


As usual when I get in this state of mind it feels like I'm face-to-face with the mystery, I feel on the edge of something. The feeling ebbs and flows. Rose is the clearest, most straightforward, least compromising teacher I've found. It's plain and to the point.



Coincidentally now I'm not a Joe Rogan listener. I was watching the recent Graham Hancock debate and it led me to this clip of Joe interviewing some guy I never heard about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh3iJoG5gS0

and I want to shake this guy and say YES! I know exactly what you are talking about, I've been there! I know that feeling of it becoming too much at times. Yes we are just in God's imagination. And this poor shmuck is trying to explain these states to Joe who is confused he's not just talking about trippy visuals.

i tried to watch a neal brennan special once about 7 years ago. the entire thing was him crying about how depressed he is and that he was doing standup on advice from his doctor to help cheer him up. for some reason that doc recommendation resulted in him getting an entire netflix special despite being a total downer.

Rickshaw posted:

electric universe crank

very high pitched voice] OK today i'm going to be sending electricity 200 miles through the ground

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Spergin Morlock posted:

i tried to watch a neal brennan special once about 7 years ago. the entire thing was him crying about how depressed he is and that he was doing standup on advice from his doctor to help cheer him up. for some reason that doc recommendation resulted in him getting an entire netflix special despite being a total downer.

very high pitched voice] OK today i'm going to be sending electricity 200 miles through the ground

but doctor i am neal brennan

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

WEH posted:

bro is at least 50 and doesnt know how to tie a tie. hitler hair cut. making synthol lue look normal smdh

he also looks really shiny and wet in every video i've ever seen of him lol

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

Azathoth posted:

It's really worth listening to, but the basic assertion is that the makeup and special effects necessary to do what is seen in the Patterson Gimlin film is on par with what was seen in The Wolfen and 2001: A Space Odyssey, which cost six figures and could only have been done by a few Hollywood people with very specialized skills. In contrast, the camera it was shot on was rented because the guy (I forget if it was Patterson or Gimlin) couldn't afford a couple grand for a camera of his own.

So for it to be a fake (and I think it is very likely a fake), one needs to explain how a perpetually broke Bigfoot hunter produced special effects or costumes on par with the best of Hollywood at the time. That obviously does not preclude a fake, but it does require some variety of larger conspiracy with some deep pocketed backer who funded it for unknown reasons.

my issue is that people always want to compare it to a pro hollywood film when it's a found footage thing, bill munns for example will talk about the materials available in the 60s and fx techniques etc, how you constructed suits back then, but the needs for the pgf are completely different than for planet of the apes, 2001, etc. pro movie suits need to stand up to shooting schedules, need to be taken on and off every day, shot close/long/medium, look the same every time, every day, perform all the actions needed in a role ... patty just needs to walk across the frame and look back, and she just needs to look good doing it once. one of the struggles of pro fx work is balancing time, money, practicality, and realism/effect, but shooting the pgf film exactly as is nips a lot of that in the bud.

patterson was an artist and saddlemaker/leatherworker, i don't doubt he could have thrown together a bespoke suit that could stand up to a few hours of shooting. munns for example talks how suit heads were made at the time, but patty's head could lit. be papier mache like a 19th century costume.

munns also has a dumb thing where he says since patterson didn't try to hide any edits/cuts in the film it must be genuine, again as if the easiest way to hoax stumbling across an unknown animal isn't to just go out in the woods and film a guy in a costume the same way you'd film real bigfoot.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008


lol I recognize Fugal and Hal Puthoff but who are the other two clowns

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010


I feel much less good about Lue being on the scene with the guy who is apparently prominently featuring Jason Sands in his next groundbreaking documentary

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG0oO6c-SlY

The Demilich
Apr 9, 2020

The First Rites of Men Were Mortuary, the First Altars Tombs.



Spergin Morlock posted:

he also looks really shiny and wet in every video i've ever seen of him lol

Unbothered. Moisturized. Gordian Knotted. In My Lane. Führered. Flourishing

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through
https://twitter.com/brandonfugal/status/1788721675137090015

https://twitter.com/brandonfugal/status/1788727776574337309

https://twitter.com/brandonfugal/status/1788730297007153592

lol

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

loving hell...

helta
Jun 16, 2018

going back to my roots

Lol lmao

helta
Jun 16, 2018

going back to my roots

https://twitter.com/BrandonFugal/status/1788709072126038288

helta
Jun 16, 2018

going back to my roots

https://twitter.com/BrandonFugal/status/1788722930966253831

helta
Jun 16, 2018

going back to my roots

Pile on...

https://twitter.com/GarryPNolan/status/1788740688043012598

helta
Jun 16, 2018

going back to my roots

Sassy yall

helta
Jun 16, 2018

going back to my roots

https://twitter.com/MiddleOfMayhem/status/1788718643536330867

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Why lie about it at all

What difference does it make if Kirkpatrick was there in an official capacity?

Like clearly the DoD is being cagey as gently caress about this but we also already know they funded skinwalker research so what's the big deal

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Ben Nerevarine
Apr 14, 2006
gotta be honest, I’ve been following this stuff for years and I still don’t know what Skinwalker Ranch is

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