zoux posted:https://twitter.com/HowardMortman/status/1788562242457240041 quote:Rick Scott, the Republican Florida senator who is seated in the front row of the courtroom today, appeared alongside Donald Trump as the former president addressed the media before court proceedings began.
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Apparently Janine Pirro is there too, in the overflow room. Presumably it's easier to hide the box of wine in there.
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# ? May 9, 2024 15:23 |
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Does that gaggle have any actual legal function or are these just emotional support toadies?
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Kagrenak posted:Wow you're not kidding he went to what seems to be literally the worst law school in the country. Like the University of American Samoa, only Saul Goodman was an excellent lawyer/fixer.
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bird food bathtub posted:Does that gaggle have any actual legal function or are these just emotional support toadies? They are groveling
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Auditioning his new VP nomination?
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The Question IRL posted:I think the question is, what are you expecting out of this. The biggest, most likely consequence if convicted is Trump will just be referred to as a convicted criminal, and any future sentences he gets will be harder hitting?
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I assumed they were all lawyers, who didn't really have to be there but were getting those billable hours showing up, so sure why not.
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CapnAndy posted:so he can’t campaign Don't worry he isn't. Though he did schedule a fundraiser for the same day as Barron's graduation.
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bird food bathtub posted:Does that gaggle have any actual legal function or are these just emotional support toadies? I think it is both common and desirable to permit criminal defendants to have supporters accompany them to trial.
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Zapp Brannigan posted:Does the title "Convicted Felon" go away while the appeal plays out? Nope!
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"convicted felon" also doesn't go away if you're pardoned, it just becomes "convicted and pardoned felon"
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# ? May 9, 2024 16:01 |
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At least by continuing to delay the trials through legal shenanigans, all Trump's Judicial accomplices are ensuring the party remains broke and all political fundraising is siphoned off to the nation's worst lawyers.
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# ? May 9, 2024 16:16 |
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Can someone clarify for me what the penalties are for this election funds-fraud case? There's 30+ counts to it. I've heard that each count brings a fine; also heard that each may have required jail/prison time. Is any particular penalty mandatory, or is it entirely up to the judge at sentencing?
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PainterofCrap posted:Can someone clarify for me what the penalties are for this election funds-fraud case? There's 30+ counts to it. I've heard that each count brings a fine; also heard that each may have required jail/prison time. Anything from a fine and probation up to 120 years in prison. Since it’s his first conviction and it’s a class E felony (the lowest class of felony in NY) I think jail is extremely unlikely.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Noted brain genius Michael Cohen was on Tiktok live last night wearing a T-shirt with a caracature of Trump in jail on it. You know, as a smart witness does. Jesus Cohen, just stop. While I do want Trump nailed up for his intimidation, I'm of the opinion that if the witness is publicly poking at him then it isn't a violation of the gag order to yell back. I think one of the violations of the first round of contempt hearings was dropped for that fact too.
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# ? May 9, 2024 16:47 |
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You know, i never followed the Daniels stuff in any detail, but reading the discussion of what appears to have happened is... Ugh. I am friends with a bunch of sex worked and always just (incorrectly) assumed that it was an escorting situation. But this is pretty clearly just sexual assault. It is Weinstein poo poo and I'm honestly baffled that there aren't more (by which I mean hundreds) of credible allegations. Because this screams 'I am comfortable intimidating women into sex'
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Caros posted:You know, i never followed the Daniels stuff in any detail, but reading the discussion of what appears to have happened is... Ugh. When the next witness, Karen Mcdougal, originally spoke out, many of her details about being intimidated into sex are similar.
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Glenn Howerton did an interview where he said Dennis Reynolds is trump without money and now I’m thinking about the boat episode. ‘She’s just going up to a billionaire’s hotel room for dinner because he cares about his wife and doesn’t want to be seen in public with a porn star. There’s a bodyguard outside, but she’s not in any real danger. She’s free to leave of course, but she won’t; because of the implication.’
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Caros posted:You know, i never followed the Daniels stuff in any detail, but reading the discussion of what appears to have happened is... Ugh. Yeah… about that. quote:At least 26 women accused President Donald Trump of sexual misconduct, including assault, since the 1970s. Most are terrified to come forward or just don’t want to relive it in a public spectacle, but dozens came out after the Access Hollywood tape. It’s predictably gone nowhere, as the vast majority of these things do but after seeing Jean Carroll actually succeed some are taking another shot.
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Oracle posted:Yeah… about that. I was listening to Behind the Bastards about Weinstein last week and they talked about Lisa Bloom who was hired by Weinstein in a PR move at one point, she claims to have not known about his assault accusations when she took the job. But she represented three of the women who accused Bill O'Reilly of sexual harassment, and she also was talking about accusers of Trump back in 2016: quote:Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations Which just makes me wonder how an unnamed accuser gets death threats unless the accused knows enough based off the age given who to threaten, which would mean something likely DID happen and there's truth in the accusation if they make this kind of move to silence it? But the other options are "the accuser was lying" or "the representative was making the accuser up" and I think people make that leap much easier than otherwise. Trump and other creeps love to follow the playbook of "they shouldn't hide if they have something so damning to say about me" as if we don't have hundreds of examples of accusers being disbelieved and massively harrased in the name of politics? And all so Trump can just be a huge prick and say things like he never met you and you're too ugly for him to sexually assault? Like I'm going to blame anyone for being scared of that spotlight lol So idk, what am I, an easily convinced Rube? Fed up with how women are treated when they come forward? Those aren't mutually exclusive, I guess.
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Tenkaris posted:Trump and other creeps love to follow the playbook of "they shouldn't hide if they have something so damning to say about me" as if we don't have hundreds of examples of accusers being disbelieved and massively harrased in the name of politics? These women shouldn't have any reason to hide if they really believed it happened I will threaten to murder these women once I get names No I do not see why this might discourage someone from coming forth If that sounds like the racist playbook, yes. These minorities have nothing to fear from the police if they are innocent I will support the police murdering the innocent No I do not see why this instills fear in anyone Edit: as for the above thirteen year-old business, I really think people like Trump do it less for being actually attracted to the kid and more for the rush of having the power to do one of the things you're really not supposed to be able to get away with. The Islamic Shock fucked around with this message at 21:11 on May 9, 2024 |
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If only he could testify in court or something as a response. https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1788669030015893721
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Is it just me, or what was the defenses goal with Stormy? Did they actually think she was going to break down crying with of the aggressive questioning? As far as I can tell, she held her ground.
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Gucci Loafers posted:Is it just me, or what was the defenses goal with Stormy? Did they actually think she was going to break down crying with of the aggressive questioning? If they were looking for a weak woman, the porn industry is not where they would try to find one. She's been through all kinds of hell.
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Gucci Loafers posted:Is it just me, or what was the defenses goal with Stormy? Did they actually think she was going to break down crying with of the aggressive questioning? Trump is insisting that she's a liar and the encounter never happened, so the defense was trying to pick apart every little inconsistency in her story over time to imply that she'd made it up. The defense was dutifully following their client's orders. Of course, whether or not she's lying is completely irrelevant to the case. It's about falsified business records, not Stormy Daniels.
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mdemone posted:If they were looking for a weak woman, the porn industry is not where they would try to find one. She's been through all kinds of hell.
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Gucci Loafers posted:Is it just me, or what was the defenses goal with Stormy? Did they actually think she was going to break down crying with of the aggressive questioning? Try to get her to say Trump raped her and file for mistrial or because she talked about something that was not allowed and use that as the basis for a mistrial? Except that the judge isn't a loving moron and saw right through that?
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Deteriorata posted:Trump is insisting that she's a liar and the encounter never happened, so the defense was trying to pick apart every little inconsistency in her story over time to imply that she'd made it up. The defense was dutifully following their client's orders. Best part is because he's insisting a part of his defense be that she's lying it was allowed testimony for her to go into "some" detail about it all to the jury. Trump: "She's lying!" Stormy: "Lemme prove it real quick" Trump: "Wait......poo poo"
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That's the best (or worst) thing about Trump, honestly. It doesn't matter how far down the line he is, he still wants to just give a blanket denial that anything ever happened. Like he's at a hearing to determine how much they are going to fine him, and he's still insisting he be able to claim it never happened even though that's two trials ago you dumb gently caress, that's not up for argument at all! Idk what makes him think anything will improve for him if he is allowed to lie in court, like how does he think anyone will believe him? Not only that, jurors are instructed to determine the credibility of the person speaking and can disregard anything you say once they're convinced you've lied in testimony. It's insanely stupid. And because he's white and rich and now a former president of the loving USA, he gets gentle reprimands for this while getting to pry open any small conflict of interest and leverage it, to the point where anyone involved in prosecuting him is held to an insane standard of behavior. Fani Willis' office romance was poorly timed but hardly anything to do with the trial, and yet it has thrown this massive wrench into the process. But Trump is a perpetual fart machine and everyone just has to smell it. This is why I wish he could actually end up in prison, because it just seems impossible in the world we live in today. What I would give to see that image, ugh. I'd know anything is possible.
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mdemone posted:If they were looking for a weak woman, the porn industry is not where they would try to find one. She's been through all kinds of hell. Deteriorata posted:Trump is insisting that she's a liar and the encounter never happened, so the defense was trying to pick apart every little inconsistency in her story over time to imply that she'd made it up. The defense was dutifully following their client's orders. That makes more sense but to me I feel like that whole approach was just... really bad but I guess when the guy paying you is Trump you don't have a much of a choice. I can't imagine any of the jury felt that circus helped Trump's position, she looks way, way more credible than he does.
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Gucci Loafers posted:I can't imagine any of the jury felt that circus helped Trump's position, she looks way, way more credible than he does. El Chapo is more credible than Trump, but that never stopped our big wet boy from anything Deteriorata posted:Of course, whether or not she's lying is completely irrelevant to the case. It's about falsified business records, not Stormy Daniels. reminds me of
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Caros posted:Is there even any real value to lose at truth social? I thought most of the costs are just execs. Can't really see them missing debt payments when the majority of their costs are staffing. 90% of silicon valley is companies with zero real value and a pile of venture capital investment just in case they turn out to be the next Paypal. Uber, to use an example, posted its first profitable year in 2023. It was founded in 2009.
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# ? May 10, 2024 02:27 |
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Trump truly believes he’s so important and well regarded that if he just says it, and enough people hear it, they’ll all totally believe it. Like he’s incapable of believing that anyone would think him a liar. That’s why he just constantly insists the same repetitive poo poo every day. It’s end stage narcissism.
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One of the greatest moments in sports history
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mdemone posted:One of the greatest moments in sports history before or after the mashup of Donald Sterling voice clips with Master Shake? That other en-scandaled Donald. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikUcRUbZbas
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# ? May 10, 2024 05:23 |
It's so telling that this isn't bigger news: Trump promised to scrap climate laws if US oil bosses donated $1bn quote:Trump promised to 20 executives at Mar-a-Lago dinner to increase oil drilling and reverse pollution rules among other pitches
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fool of sound posted:Nah they’re just fascists and don’t care. Evangelicals have been reactionaries playacting at religious revival for a century and a half 19th century Evangelicals were all in on postmillenial theology which is why they supported the reform movements of the days. In contrast most modern Evangelicals are premillenialists who think nothing can be done to improve the world.
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He crimes faster than the news cycle can keep up.
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DTurtle posted:It's so telling that this isn't bigger news: It's because democrats and Republicans have been doing it for decades already. They just aren't so incredibly stupid about it. There's no way he can be prosecuted for such an obvious crime where the evidence is right there because it'd spoil the game for the rest of the uniparty.
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