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Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Feels Villeneuve posted:

i think he is someone who knows the vague outlines of certain strains of media criticism but doesn't actually want to read criticism and simply regurgitates them poorly for clout

Also this. First and foremost he is extremely, profoundly lazy.

I say this as a tremendously lazy person myself.

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Slotducks
Oct 16, 2008

Nobody puts Phil in a corner.


internet addicts find the negatives in everything they consume they can't help it - it's a well worn groove. No matter what that person is going to be upset about something.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

The MSJ posted:

Unfortunately many children might not even know about them from watching Digital Circus directly. The content farm channels have really taken advantage of its popularity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cifRS8-Pmr0

There are channels that built off an audience from talking about that stuff that you can see the sheer discomfort when they try to talk about more dire subject matters in the most PG-rated way possible.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

somerton's regrets in life: being born too early to be a our flag means death fanartist, being born too late to be a consultant on aaa video games with a gay side character

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

Feels Villeneuve posted:

i think he is someone who knows the vague outlines of certain strains of media criticism but doesn't actually want to read criticism and simply regurgitates them poorly for clout

He wouldn't last an hour in the asylum that raised me (a Cinema Discusso thread with Supermechagodzilla actively posting).

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

Skippy McPants posted:

I get the impression that Somerton has disdain for any and all life experiences and representations that doesn't align with his own.

I think this is giving him way too much credit. Most tumblr-brained kids cared, even if they weren't the best at expressing that in a productive way. Somerton has terminal business-guy brain and thinks that his collection of stolen shticks and branding cliches make him an expert at life.

I agree. If he was influenced by that place and time in internet history, it was only in the sense that that is where he learned to sound like someone knowledgeable and compassionate about the subjects he makes* content** about.

mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!

The MSJ posted:

He wouldn't last an hour in the asylum that raised me (a Cinema Discusso thread with Supermechagodzilla actively posting).

Every so often I think about his Duke Nukem Forever post(s) and smile

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4_2T7nTcI0

turns out there was a whole jrpg about kaijis first story arc long before the anime came out

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

The MSJ posted:

He wouldn't last an hour in the asylum that raised me (a Cinema Discusso thread with Supermechagodzilla actively posting).
he wouldnt last an hour in the asylum that raised me (arguing in the comments of a youtube upload of sailor moon about if uranus and neptune are lesbians)

cumpantry
Dec 18, 2020

The MSJ posted:

Unfortunately many children might not even know about them from watching Digital Circus directly. The content farm channels have really taken advantage of its popularity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cifRS8-Pmr0

ive seen some lovely thumbnails before but

cumpantry
Dec 18, 2020

Honest Thief posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4_2T7nTcI0

turns out there was a whole jrpg about kaijis first story arc long before the anime came out

i want to play the DS one

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

Skippy McPants posted:

I get the impression that Somerton has disdain for any and all life experiences and representations that doesn't align with his own.


That means he fancies Nazis and is turned off by soviet overcoats.

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

Crain posted:

"Purposefully", almost performatively, amateurish presentation is something that has become desirable with online media. You see it all the time: Starting a video by walking into frame and sitting down like you just turned on the camera, holding a clip mic instead of wearing it, having your audio be juuuust the right kind of distorted by being too close to it when speaking or too far away, leaving in "bad" edits/cuts/takes and cutting to the "reshoot", janky graphics and charts (also aping Jon Bois style), Animations that are mostly storyboards to show you're not "polished" enough for professional work or that the work wasn't "professionally" done even if the creator is clearly a professional doing a personal project (or it is a professional product in the first place), hell even using the same trope-y royalty free music pieces that have all been co-opted into being known as specific genre signifiers (which is also just being cheap/cost conscious).

It's one of those areas where "virtue signalling" is actually applicable. Creators do this sort of thing, either intentionally or accidentally, because audiences get wary of something that looks too good, or is too clean, or whatever because it's seen as less authentic and has a chance of being taken over by corporate interests (which is stupid because plenty of very well produced stuff that don't do these things are completely independent, while others that do have these elements are already bought and paid for by corporate overlords).

Looking at Glitch's and Gooseworx other projects and creations, it's probably not meant for "kids" (ages 5-10), but is definitely meant for that tween-teen age range. It's less Magic School Bus and OG Scooby doo and more Gargoyles and Reboot. There's no cursing but the horror elements and some subject matter lean a bit more mature than most kids media would for that age range.

older but relevant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0arvnAlV_C4

cumpantry
Dec 18, 2020

Crain posted:

"Purposefully", almost performatively, amateurish presentation is something that has become desirable with online media. You see it all the time: Starting a video by walking into frame and sitting down like you just turned on the camera, holding a clip mic instead of wearing it, having your audio be juuuust the right kind of distorted by being too close to it when speaking or too far away, leaving in "bad" edits/cuts/takes and cutting to the "reshoot", janky graphics and charts (also aping Jon Bois style), Animations that are mostly storyboards to show you're not "polished" enough for professional work or that the work wasn't "professionally" done even if the creator is clearly a professional doing a personal project (or it is a professional product in the first place), hell even using the same trope-y royalty free music pieces that have all been co-opted into being known as specific genre signifiers (which is also just being cheap/cost conscious).

It's one of those areas where "virtue signalling" is actually applicable. Creators do this sort of thing, either intentionally or accidentally, because audiences get wary of something that looks too good, or is too clean, or whatever because it's seen as less authentic and has a chance of being taken over by corporate interests (which is stupid because plenty of very well produced stuff that don't do these things are completely independent, while others that do have these elements are already bought and paid for by corporate overlords).

Looking at Glitch's and Gooseworx other projects and creations, it's probably not meant for "kids" (ages 5-10), but is definitely meant for that tween-teen age range. It's less Magic School Bus and OG Scooby doo and more Gargoyles and Reboot. There's no cursing but the horror elements and some subject matter lean a bit more mature than most kids media would for that age range.

do you animate

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

When I want to relax, I read an essay by Engels. When I want something more serious, I read Corto Maltese.

mp5 posted:

Every so often I think about his Duke Nukem Forever post(s) and smile

The fact that that thread was gotten rid of instead of goldmined was a travesty.

...unless I'm somehow mistaken that it was gotten rid of, in which case could I please have a link?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I really want someone to shave that cowlick off Somerton's head it's like an errant ice cream swirl.

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

Samovar posted:

The fact that that thread was gotten rid of instead of goldmined was a travesty.

...unless I'm somehow mistaken that it was gotten rid of, in which case could I please have a link?

At one point his posting was retrieved by a mod in QCS but hell if I saved the specific post from years ago they quoted him in.

Angryhead
Apr 4, 2009

Don't call my name
Don't call my name
Alejandro




Not sure if Jeff Gerstmann's six-hour+ episode of "Ranking the NES" featuring every Action 52 game got posted, but lemme just timestamp to this moment from his perfect, beautiful mind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEeS-Pxc6VY&t=6386s
(1h46m26s if the timestamp messes up)

Pigbuster
Sep 12, 2010

Fun Shoe

cumpantry posted:

do you animate

yeah like, most of that post is on the money but animators are absolutely not uploading storyboard-only videos for some kind of stylistic clout, it's because they don't want to spend a month animating a shitpost

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

animation is extremely difficult and time consuming, and antithetical to the YouTube algorithm. short, infrequent videos will get you nowhere on a site that prioritizes watch hours and average watch time

professionalism has nothing to do with it. those animated pilots you see are all done by teams of dozens of people over a span of many months in the hopes that maybe it will hit big and get them enough Patreon funds to do a second episode, which will inevitably perform a lot worse on YouTube than the pilot did

same with ‘story time YouTube’ channels. Jaiden’s videos are done by a team of a dozen people, ilymation’s by a team of around 7-8. gingerpale’s videos are now animated by a third party studio

The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 18:54 on May 10, 2024

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Yeah, I follow a few animators on YouTube and their output is on the scale of 20-90 second clips released every 8 months or so. It's hard to overstate just how stupidly work-intensive even "bad" or minimalistic animation is.

Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 19:33 on May 10, 2024

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

weird timing because this just popped up on twitter. ross o donovan took advantage of a sponsorship deal to pay a bunch of animators $1200 each to animate in gartic phone. 20 drawings by each animator. if i could pay rent for a month by just doing a 20 drawing animation i'd obv do that haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TgPzy7Qk9w

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW

claw game handjob posted:

At one point his posting was retrieved by a mod in QCS but hell if I saved the specific post from years ago they quoted him in.

i think all of Supermechagodzilla's DNF posts were compiled into a PDF which I might still have somewhere

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Is this it?

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

Feels Villeneuve posted:

i think he is someone who knows the vague outlines of certain strains of media criticism but doesn't actually want to read criticism and simply regurgitates them poorly for clout

Everything about how he's presented and discussed media crit reads like he half-paid attention during some film analysis undergrad courses, and then absorbed everything else from bad tumblr posts and tweet threads. Like, even when it comes to repeating talking about TV shows, movies, video games. etc. every clip it never felt like he actually interacted with the media itself by watching or playing it. Genuinely don't understand how he spends his free time besides scrolling social media feeds aka the purest form of mental torture available on the market today.

YggiDee posted:

i think all of Supermechagodzilla's DNF posts were compiled into a PDF which I might still have somewhere

I don't like that I can't tell if you're joking.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

Nuns with Guns posted:


I don't like that I can't tell if you're joking.

Pretty sure it's true. I remember someone compiling a bunch of smg stuff when everyone thought the website was gunna die off

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

like an even sadder version of the c-spam book

Crain
Jun 27, 2007

I had a beer once with Stephen Miller and now I like him.

I also tried to ban someone from a Discord for pointing out what an unrelenting shithead I am! I'm even dumb enough to think it worked!

Pigbuster posted:

yeah like, most of that post is on the money but animators are absolutely not uploading storyboard-only videos for some kind of stylistic clout, it's because they don't want to spend a month animating a shitpost

Fair enough. I know that animation takes a lot of effort and time for even a few seconds of footage. I meant that more as being more aligned with the Jon Bois style videos that use Blender and keep a certain level of "jank" in the final product seemingly on purpose (I mean stuff like screen recording an animation playback so that the UI and cursors are still in the shot), but yeah I was wrong with applying that to posting animatics over polished animation as a signifier as opposed to "that's all this shitpost deserves".

There are some channels I follow that have used some kinds of jank as a style. Like FUNKe edits his videos on like 4s or more for a really choppy style, while still clearly doing cleaner animations that's he's chopping up for the look. Though I guess it's hard to really draw a line between "doing this for a style reasons" and "doing this because animation takes a ton of time and this is easier".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs8XDWAuvEg

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

Alaois posted:

like an even sadder version of the c-spam book

I don't know... I could get behind an illuminated monk painting up a picture of Samuel L. Jackson's face with a calligraphic "CALL MACE WINDU THE N-WORD" next to it.

Pigbuster
Sep 12, 2010

Fun Shoe
People should be immortalizing SMG's actual best post

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

If you can’t be racist against fictional characters, then prove it: call Mace Windu the n-word.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

smg made some funny posts but the fact that he had a crowd of onlookers who breathlessly took everything he said as like, insightful analysis made him really annoying

Solitair
Feb 18, 2014

TODAY'S GONNA BE A GOOD MOTHERFUCKIN' DAY!!!
did you know that transformers: dark of the moon is actually a cinematic masterpiece

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
That the subversive read of Bay's transformers movies broke contain is a deep stain on this forum. We should've been more vigilant.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

Solitair posted:

did you know that transformers: dark of the moon is actually a cinematic masterpiece

That was another poster


Know the lore

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Pigbuster posted:

People should be immortalizing SMG's actual best post

still lol

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3416433

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

Wasn't supermechagodzilla a serial stalker

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



You are probably thinking of BravestoftheLamps.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

Annointed posted:

Wasn't supermechagodzilla a serial stalker

that was koos who sought to destroy SMG but was in the end destroyed himself

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DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?
Bravest of the Lamps engaged in serial off-site harassment in addition to on-forums misconduct. Fishmech had an obsessive archive of old posts that, probably incidentally, included old goon homegrown pornography from the past 20 years.

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