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reignonyourparade posted:"Child should be able to draw it" rule is massively misunderstood. US flag still counts even though the drawing will almost certainly have the wrong number of stars and has a good chance of the wrong number of stripes, for example. Yeah the point isn't that a child needs to get it perfect, it's that a child should be able to get close enough that it won't be mistaken for anything else. His Albanian eagle, for example, will probably look more like Jackson Pollock Batman, but as long as it's a black thing with wings on a red field it's done its job.
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Waddle Bourgeoidee posted:Thank you for offering this profoundly constructive and insightful dialogue. Its sheer depth and insightfulness have permanently altered our understanding of flags and the intricate details therein. Regdate/post combo 
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reignonyourparade posted:"Child should be able to draw it" rule is massively misunderstood. Where a unicycle becomes a bicycle, that's too complicated.
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Even if some, or perhaps all, of the things the North American Vexillological Association say are reasonable, they can absolutely go gently caress themselves for pretending to be an authority on flag design. Who died and made them flag kings? I can hate state seals on monochrome backgrounds because I personally hate them, without someone telling me they're against some dumb made up rules.
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Eiba posted:Even if some, or perhaps all, of the things the North American Vexillological Association say are reasonable, they can absolutely go gently caress themselves for pretending to be an authority on flag design. Who died and made them flag kings? I can hate state seals on monochrome backgrounds because I personally hate them, without someone telling me they're against some dumb made up rules. Furthermore, the existence and promotion of a strict standard encourages creative minds to break the rules, resulting in something that's likely to be far more interesting and satisfying than what someone who does not know the rules in the first place will produce. In short, we need rules to know what to break.
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May 9, 2024 05:54
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Eiba posted:Even if some, or perhaps all, of the things the North American Vexillological Association say are reasonable, they can absolutely go gently caress themselves for pretending to be an authority on flag design. Who died and made them flag kings? George III 
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SlothfulCobra posted:which I guess provokes the question of how the Houthis even generally see themselves as a state in the ongoing Yemeni civil war.
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Who wore it better? Angola  Ejército Popular Boricua  Parti Communiste Révolutionnaire de Côte d'Ivoire Arguably if that last one counts, which I think is a billhook, so should all the sickles.
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May 9, 2024 23:03
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That doesn't look anything like a billhook.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:That doesn't look anything like a billhook. Need a chart like this for agricultural implements. 
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May 9, 2024 23:12
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Now *that's* a flag
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Count Roland posted:Now *that's* a flag Looks like something from Tropico
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Platystemon posted:Who wore it better? Controversial take, but modern technology and contemporary machinery don't belong on flags, so no guns, gears, or the like. It really pains me to say this because the Angola flag is an objectively amazing design, but the huge gear is such a turn-off. The same can also be said for Mozambique, which just inexplicably repulses because of its very conspicuous rifle. I should probably see a doctor. Waddle Bourgeoidee fucked around with this message at 03:21 on May 10, 2024 |
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Waddle Bourgeoidee posted:Controversial take, but modern technology and contemporary machinery don't belong on flags, so no guns, gears, or the like. It really pains me to say this because the Angola flag is an objectively amazing design, but the huge gear is such a turn-off. The same can also be said for Mozambique, which just inexplicably repulses because of its very conspicuous rifle. Count Roland posted:Now *that's* a flag
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I think the gear is pretty rad and the black and yellow design really pops. I prefer a machete to a sickle because I've known more people who ended up using a machete than people who have used sickles.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Even assuming we accept this notion, how old are you that gears are a new-fangled idea? They're about contemporary with the founding of the Roman Republic. Yeah they’ve got machetes beat by about twenty centuries. Sickles are more or less as old as agriculture though.
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 Wikipedia calls these arms on the emblem of Djibouti “machetes”, but they’re clearly not. I don’t know what they’re called in Djibouti, but leaf‐shaped blades of that size are classic. In ancient Greece, it would be a kopis (Κόπις). Thailand has e‐neps and the Philippines has barongs. There’s a proposal to make some skyscrapers based on the emblem, which is cool. 
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Waddle Bourgeoidee posted:an attempt to whitewash Islam what, uh, does this mean,
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The Angolan flag I always thought was really good. I know the black band represents Africa, but aesthetically it has a lot in common with black-and-red anarchist and syndicalist flags. It's a good color combination if you want to express defiance and vitality. It was also a good decision to center the yellow tools + star and make them appropriately sized. Most other communist flags are atrocious, though. Oh, another tiny yellow hammer-and-sickle and/or star on an otherwise featureless red background? How original. I guess designing a flag that isn't lame as hell is bourgeois decadence, I wish someone with a functioning sense of aesthetics would seize the means of flag production.
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Waddle Bourgeoidee posted:Controversial take, but modern technology and contemporary machinery don't belong on flags, so no guns, gears, or the like. It really pains me to say this because the Angola flag is an objectively amazing design, but the huge gear is such a turn-off. The same can also be said for Mozambique, which just inexplicably repulses because of its very conspicuous rifle. Is somebody paying you to discredit vexillologists by parading around the worst possible takes about flags, or do you come up with them naturally?
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Phlegmish posted:I guess designing a flag that isn't lame as hell is bourgeois decadence, I wish someone with a functioning sense of aesthetics would seize the means of flag production. 
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Phlegmish posted:The Angolan flag I always thought was really good. I know the black band represents Africa, but aesthetically it has a lot in common with black-and-red anarchist and syndicalist flags. It's a good color combination if you want to express defiance and vitality. It was also a good decision to center the yellow tools + star and make them appropriately sized.  Which would've been a tragedy if it had come to pass. The flag is one of the all-time greats, with an excellent use of color and a nicely balanced but dynamic collection of symbols. Phlegmish posted:Most other communist flags are atrocious, though. Oh, another tiny yellow hammer-and-sickle and/or star on an otherwise featureless red background? How original. I guess designing a flag that isn't lame as hell is bourgeois decadence, I wish someone with a functioning sense of aesthetics would seize the means of flag production.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Parliament proposed this flag to replace it: Uh, that sun emblem looks like it should be emblazoned on some failed competitor to Iomega Zip Drive (now I'm going to wait for somebody to point out I've disrespected a universally beloved symbol of Angola's historical heritage)
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I feel like you're vastly overstating the number of red flag, yellow symbol, communist flags. Not so much anymore, but I invite you to peruse the old flags of the Soviet republics. "Yellow symbol in the canton of a red flag with maybe an extra stripe or something" was basically the USSR's version of "state seal on a blue background".
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steinrokkan posted:Uh, that sun emblem looks like it should be emblazoned on some failed competitor to Iomega Zip Drive (now I'm going to wait for somebody to point out I've disrespected a universally beloved symbol of Angola's historical heritage) But it also looks like it was drawn by a child, which is ideal.
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There's the whole academic atheist angle of having to create new symbology from first principles in order to get away from symbols connected with religion and the old order. It often seems really dorky and out of touch. The Rural French Revolutionary Calendar is another example of that idea where they tried remaking time itself to get away from religious influences and the way that peasants were used to the Catholic church associating every day with a saint. Instead of that, why not instead commemorate the 22nd of Floreal by considering the fratillary? Consider it harder.A Buttery Pastry posted:Parliament proposed this flag to replace it: Too close to Costa Rica and North Korea.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Parliament proposed this flag to replace it: It's got a very Caribbean or Pacific feel to it - some sort of small island, anyway.
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Or a travel agency from the early aughts
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Angry Salami posted:It's got a very Caribbean or Pacific feel to it - some sort of small island, anyway. Maybe a Caribbean or Pacific cruise line, rather
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Pope Hilarius II posted:Or a travel agency from the early aughts I was going to say 'early-2000s low-cost charter airline serving the Mediterranean'
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Powered Descent posted:Not so much anymore, but I invite you to peruse the old flags of the Soviet republics. "Yellow symbol in the canton of a red flag with maybe an extra stripe or something" was basically the USSR's version of "state seal on a blue background". Also, while they're not great, they specifically aren't just red with a yellow symbol. Hell, some of them even have unique features like waves.
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steinrokkan posted:Is somebody paying you to discredit vexillologists by parading around the worst possible takes about flags, or do you come up with them naturally? I think I made it more than abundantly clear that my visceral hatred for guns and other machinery on flags is irrational and without merit. I never explicitly stated or tried to imply that this assertion was justified or reasonable. Next time, please do yourself a favor and exercise critical thinking when reading and responding to posts so you don't make your subpar reading comprehension skills so apparent. Thanks.
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Waddle Bourgeoidee posted:I think I made it more than abundantly clear that my visceral hatred for guns and other machinery on flags is irrational and without merit. I never explicitly stated or tried to imply that this assertion was justified or reasonable. So which terminally angry banned user are you?
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Minnesota's new state flag goes into effect as of midnight tonight, Minnesota time (CDT). Old:  New:  Just in case any of you want to hold a New-Year's-Eve style countdown.
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EasilyConfused posted:So which terminally angry banned user are you? Please consider for a moment that SA is still accepting payment for and allowing new users to register accounts. I know it seems farfetched, but not everyone with a recent join date is a permabanned degenerate political extremist.
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Phlegmish posted:Most other communist flags are atrocious, though. Oh, another tiny yellow hammer-and-sickle and/or star on an otherwise featureless red background? I honestly find a lot of the SSR flags quite distinct and original, especially Estonia and Latvia, with that alluring wave formation. .jpg)  Along with the gold star you mentioned, another common trope exhibited by communist flags is the dreaded tricolor with an overlayed coat of arms (topped by a red star, of course). .svg) .svg) .svg) To be fair, though, tricolors and seals on a bedsheet transcend communism and plague a wide array of states, all with varying political allegiances.
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Powered Descent posted:Minnesota's new state flag goes into effect as of midnight tonight, Minnesota time (CDT). Why the gently caress did they discard this glorious design? 
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Waddle Bourgeoidee posted:Please consider for a moment that SA is still accepting payment for and allowing new users to register accounts. I know it seems farfetched, but not everyone with a recent join date is a permabanned degenerate political extremist. Being a rereg is the less sad alternative here.
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Platystemon posted:Being a rereg is the less sad alternative here. in the eye of the beholder
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Waddle Bourgeoidee posted:Why the gently caress did they discard this glorious design? Star was swapping it out for an existing star motif from the capital building that was actually already uses as minor symbol of government, stripes for color because they liked the effect it had when the flag was hanging without wind. Star change unfortunately correct change to for Minnesota specifically even though the original star is nicer in a vacuum, stripes change... much more eh.
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