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Diabetic posted:Meanwhile, Liz can't have enough attention and did by far the dumbest vote despite her supervillain nemesis Q, she voted Venus and it made zero sense. KingKapalone posted:I heard they got rid of the challenges where you physically engage with others. The one in Cook Islands where they had to drag someone off a pole was brutal. The lady cop was getting choked out. I assume they got rid of these awhile ago, but they drat sure weren't making it past 2020...
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Diabetic posted:Meanwhile, Liz can't have enough attention and did by far the dumbest vote despite her supervillain nemesis Q, she voted Venus and it made zero sense. KingKapalone posted:I heard they got rid of the challenges where you physically engage with others. The one in Cook Islands where they had to drag someone off a pole was brutal. The lady cop was getting choked out. I assume they got rid of these awhile ago, but they drat sure weren't making it past 2020...
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Fast Luck posted:I mean, I figure Charlie told Liz and Kenzie that Venus had some mysterious advantage and they needed to take her out. With Charlie voting Venus they didn’t have the numbers for anything else, so might as well vote Venus also. That makes sense. I figured Charlie would have went for Venus but I didn't see any reason for Liz too.
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May 10, 2024 13:05
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A friend sent me a clip of Venus's interview from RHAP yesterday. Apparently this is a very bitter jury. Venus said that the only person who would even speak to her at Ponderosa was Hunter, and everybody else completely ignored her.
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May 10, 2024 14:11
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Guess that’s the endgame of casting superfans, take the game show super seriously. Just have fun at your free vacation goobers. Least the chaos is kinda entertaining.
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May 10, 2024 15:04
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I’m not even sure why they hate Venus so much. She’s not screwing anyone or throwing tantrums or whatever. She’s just kind of a dumb overzealous player no one wants to play with. My best guess is just that this cast is so overwhelmed by self serious puppetmaster wannabes that Venus never just going along with the flow pisses them off and threatens them the same way they turned on their allies for small game divergences.
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May 10, 2024 15:13
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Saw Ben perform with his band last night and it was a very enjoyable fever dream
A+++++ would absolutely go again, he's playing Philly (Ukie Club, 5/16), NY (Mercury Lounge, 5/23), Orlando (Will's Pub, 5/25) and Fort Lauderdale (Revolution, FL, 6/1) coming up if you want to share in weird nerdery
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Invalid Validation posted:Guess that’s the endgame of casting superfans, take the game show super seriously. Just have fun at your free vacation goobers. Least the chaos is kinda entertaining. Looking at the Jury, Venus is only the 5th jury member. The rest, aside from Hunter, are Soda, Tevin, and Tiff, all people who thought they were running the game. The problem is, while Venus was convinced that she was the orchestrator behind the Tevin vote, she wasn't, and Tiff knows this. Venus was pretty much a non-entity in this game, so there does seem to be an undeserved amount of hate towards her. She must have been very difficult to live with or something out there.
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May 10, 2024 15:22
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I guess, but having the whole cast shun you is weird especially when we didn’t see anything crazy. If there was anything even remotely interesting they’d have showed a snippet of it. They absolutely hated her from day one. I just think it’s a group of sociopaths.
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May 10, 2024 15:28
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Invalid Validation posted:I just think it’s a group of sociopaths.
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May 10, 2024 15:41
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Even Ben seems to hate her and he seems like one of the handful of cast members who possesses empathy. But he also seems like he’s mostly operating on wanting to cruise with no game drama.
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May 10, 2024 15:45
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Nihonniboku posted:A friend sent me a clip of Venus's interview from RHAP yesterday. Apparently this is a very bitter jury. Venus said that the only person who would even speak to her at Ponderosa was Hunter, and everybody else completely ignored her. Every single cast member except Venus was spotted together hanging out at some party earlier in the airing of the season, and Jess and Kenzie were beefing even then. I do still think the cast is pretty lame but even from what we saw on the show (Hunter interacting with Venus leading up to his boot) and her exit interviews, it’s not that unusual that they’d all decide not to associate with her. Most of the cast can be jerks, and Venus can also be an extremely exhausting person to be around. Without doing armchair diagnosis I will just say I’ve known people who behaved like Venus did and it can be highly off-putting and draining for other people. There are a lot of tradeoffs with having a cast entirely full of hooting superfans but this isn’t one of them STAC Goat posted:Even Ben seems to hate her and he seems like one of the handful of cast members who possesses empathy. But he also seems like he’s mostly operating on wanting to cruise with no game drama. He probably doesn’t hate her, like you said this is a guy who hates *drama*, and has told us he’s wanted Q out of the game for weeks because of it
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May 10, 2024 15:56
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Where are our damned Ponderosa videos. I miss DVD extras.
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STAC Goat posted:I’m not even sure why they hate Venus so much. She’s not screwing anyone or throwing tantrums or whatever. She’s just kind of a dumb overzealous player no one wants to play with. She's pretty, she's thin, and even after however long on the island, she still looks like she's wearing a full face of makeup. Everybody pegged her as 'bitchy airhead' the moment they saw her.
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May 10, 2024 16:04
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Ugh now Kenzie is whining about "her moves." Shut up forever about your drat moves, all survivor players. I don't wanna hear that term in that context until the last episode, during the final jury that I usually skip these days. Lol Venus checking her invisible watch while Kenzie hunts for no idol. I can't beleive she's going home this episode. No idol using goober crew. edit: Ah, Venus laying out her plan to be voted out by not using her idol, as a strategy. Khanstant fucked around with this message at 16:49 on May 10, 2024 |
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Poque posted:Saw Ben perform with his band last night and it was a very enjoyable fever dream This rocks
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Ben's band is good! If he comes up to  I'd definitely go see them
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May 10, 2024 16:47
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TheCenturion posted:She's pretty, she's thin, and even after however long on the island, she still looks like she's wearing a full face of makeup. Everybody pegged her as 'bitchy airhead' the moment they saw her. Yeah I think it's episode 1 that Tevin says something like "The moment I saw you pre-game I was like 'oh she's a princess". I'm not gonna pretend Venus couldn't have been more self-aware (trying to throw a pity party for herself when her toe got run over in the comp was particularly bad social play), but I think a bunch of players saw her as the mactor who was supposed to do what they said and get voted off at a convenient time. Basically they wanted her to be Morgan but she was Eliza.
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I do wonder how much Venus maybe could have chilled if people hadn’t iced her out so early. It seems a bit chicken or egg. She was playing a little too hard out of the gate and got labeled for it and ostracized because she was on a tribe that never had to go to tribal. But like maybe if anyone had been willing to play with her she could have found a balance. There was that whole Soda thing where apparently they had a game relationship and then Soda just iced her out. It seems like that kind of just made Venus more paranoid and anxious to play.
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May 10, 2024 17:30
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Venus has been shown to be super abrasive all the time lmao. Like, her conversation with Randen about why Hunter was running the tribe was Real Blunt in an annoying way ("I know because I'm not blind"). I don't think it's even a judge of character! Being annoying to live with on an island while starving and competing in a game show and super physical tasks is not a day to day quality to be worried about.
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May 10, 2024 17:41
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If everyone finds her obnoxious, she's probably obnoxious But who knows? Not us
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Venus said in her exit press that she realized that she can come across very differently from how she thinks she's coming across. Like in that conversation with Charlie where she came off as shady and suspicious, she thought she was being cute and teasing. So honestly I think it was a lot of unawareness and bluntness. She's probably learned a little from the show how she comes across, it's just whether or not the cast believes her to be capable of that change. I don't think she's a bad person necessarily, and it's not like she's the only person out there on this cast with an inflated ego.
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Poque posted:Saw Ben perform with his band last night and it was a very enjoyable fever dream The best part was during Florida Man when Ben shouted "Florida Man didn't get Applebee's! He didn't get the bourbon burger!" Also specifically Ben had a Gibson Flying V guitar, which is the most 80s/90s metal guitar in existence.
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STAC Goat posted:I do wonder how much Venus maybe could have chilled if people hadn’t iced her out so early. It seems a bit chicken or egg. She was playing a little too hard out of the gate and got labeled for it and ostracized because she was on a tribe that never had to go to tribal. But like maybe if anyone had been willing to play with her she could have found a balance. There was that whole Soda thing where apparently they had a game relationship and then Soda just iced her out. It seems like that kind of just made Venus more paranoid and anxious to play. Yeah this is my thinking too. Tevin was leading the charge against her Day 1 before she ever really had a conversation with anyone, and iirc his motivation was essentially "Parvati was hot and really dangerous to associate with :: Venus is also hot, and so also might be dangerous as well?" Rubber Chicken posted:But who knows? Not us But on the other hand, this. We only know what the producers deign to show us, it's useless to try to read tea leaves that have already been arranged for you
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Venus is like 20 right? She came across exactly like a smart 20 year old who thinks they have everything in the bag. Honestly she acred less of a cocky twenty year old than Carson last year. But she is also a woman. And don’t get me wrong I don’t want to spend even a couple of days with a cocky twenty year old so I can totally imagine why people would get tired of her. Edit: holy poo poo she is 25???? Ok then nevermind I would have bet my life savings she was super young. Voodoofly fucked around with this message at 20:03 on May 10, 2024 |
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25 IS super young, especially when her entire life since turning 21 has been ruined by the pandemic
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Poque posted:25 IS super young, especially when her entire life since turning 21 has been ruined by the pandemic I mean yes it is not trying to say 25 isn’t young but also there is a massive difference between a 20 year old and a 25 year old. That’s like second year college versus graduating grad school. Or at least I used to think so. Honestly yeah no idea how Covid will affect that.
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May 10, 2024 20:07
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We've had younger contestants than Venus who still seem less... Venus, at least, even in new era.
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ApplesandOranges posted:We've had younger contestants than Venus who still seem less... Venus, at least, even in new era. Probably. I just assumed she was someone who had basically never interacted with adults on a constant basis because she was still in college. I still get the impression she is someone who has never interacted with adults on a constant basis
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May 10, 2024 20:40
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I get being annoying on island but if your ostracized by the whole cast when you’re chillin at the hotel is weird. Like nobody wants to talk to you and hang out at the pool even a little bit? I’ve never met anyone that annoying without someone outright saying why.
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Invalid Validation posted:I get being annoying on island but if your ostracized by the whole cast when you’re chillin at the hotel is weird. Like nobody wants to talk to you and hang out at the pool even a little bit? I’ve never met anyone that annoying without someone outright saying why. tbf that was after the super underhanded and emotionally devastating game
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The last time I remember hearing about a person being completely ostracized at Ponderosa was Crystal from Gabon and that certainly looked worse on the people doing the ostracizing; I don’t remember if they eventually got over themselves, I believe Randy at least was talking to her by the next day.
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Kass in Cagayan was completely iced out, but iirc she was the last person voted out before Final so she only really spent a couple days there
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Voodoofly posted:I mean yes it is not trying to say 25 isn’t young but also there is a massive difference between a 20 year old and a 25 year old. That’s like second year college versus graduating grad school. That analysis is bull. My mom graduated undergrad at age 28 and retired in a position of tenure. I myself am pushing 40 with that undergrad, and I loving dare you to put some kind of high-achieving young Carson against me. Maturity and life experience somehow doesn't get very much credit even though literally everybody who hasn't died young is subject to it.
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Propaganda Machine posted:That analysis is bull. My mom graduated undergrad at age 28 and retired in a position of tenure. I myself am pushing 40 with that undergrad, and I loving dare you to put some kind of high-achieving young Carson against me. ??? I don’t think we disagree. I was saying 20 year olds are idiots by and large, especially ones in college. Voodoofly fucked around with this message at 22:13 on May 10, 2024 |
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Okay. But I don't think that going on to a grad degree in your 20s changes that very much. Sorry to get incensed. It does suck to be pushing 40 and working on college so I'm sorry for taking it personally.
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Propaganda Machine posted:Okay. But I don't think that going on to a grad degree in your 20s changes that very much. Oh grad students are ducking stupid too I just remember her talking about college and I was just using that as a reference for her age/life experience. If anything I think a 25 year old who never went to school would do better than a 25 year old grad student on this show. Also my dad was career army so he got his undergrad degree six months before I got my undergrad degree. He was in his 50s. My mom is still working on that AA degree she started at 19. She is retired in her 70s. Good luck with yours.
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Venus was fun, looks like she's been getting the bad end of the Twitter stick too. Always sucks to see, and far from the worst person on Survivor to dump on even in the meanest interpretation of anything she did. I don't think I care at all who wins or loses at this point, hoping someone gets buckwild silly in the last few episodes to keep it interesting.
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I have no idea why they hated Venus other than her appearance. I chalk it up more to the edit leaving out a ton of stuff, like how everyone liked Gabler yet I never saw him make a move, he just looked like Darrell Sheets from Storage Wars and played like him too. I kinda hope it got better for Venus, she didn't really do anything and really doesn't deserve that hate.
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