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PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011


Seems like this is mocking Palestine

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PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Red Metal posted:

then why isn't canada in eurovision

Canada has a black prime minister.

Disqualified.

Leandros
Dec 14, 2008

I've never been a violent person but lately I've noticed that whenever I see videos of these Zionist agitators, I get pretty worked up and the feeling I would go utterly bananas on them if confronted in real life. Like full lizard brain takeover aggression, no backing down before blows have been exchanged. Not that I'd necessarily win or anything, just saying the discipline of these protestors is something to behold.

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable
You have contracted hamas

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

There's a white Zionist rapper called Kosha Dillz that's been leading counter protests of the encampments

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

Cool. Just like Baked Alaska I guess

Ace Transmuter
May 19, 2017

I like video games

Atrocious Joe posted:

There's a white Zionist rapper called Kosha Dillz that's been leading counter protests of the encampments

Giving pickles a bad name :(

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
https://twitter.com/CanadianCMF/status/1788798093171024360?t=MDIPwyAqdwtb9-q7Ovb8uA&s=19

Unsurprisingly the first encampment to get dismantled in Canada happened in Alberta.

Lenny Nero
Apr 14, 2007

I'm the magic man...The Santa Claus of the subconscious
Truly insane stuff coming from Columbia's president as an opinion piece in today's FT:
https://www.ft.com/content/18432ba2-d1f7-4661-99c8-6fd9d064b7ea

Minouche Shafik posted:

When I was inaugurated as Columbia’s 20th president on October 4, 2023, I called for strengthening the bond between universities and society through a recommitment to academia’s contribution to the common good. The horrors of the Hamas attack three days later, the ensuing war with Israel and the tragic loss of civilian lives in Gaza have tested that bond in unimaginable ways. I have seen the campus engulfed in tensions and divisions deepened by powerful external forces. 

The wave of protests, encampments, and building takeovers has since spread across the US and around the world. Whatever one thinks of the response of university leaders — denouncing hurtful rhetoric, enforcing rules and discipline, and summoning police to restore order — these are actions, not solutions. All of us who believe in higher education must now engage in serious soul searching about why this is happening. Only then can universities recover and begin to realise their potential to heal and unify.

From my perspective, there are two issues at stake. First, we must do a better job of defining the boundaries between the free speech rights of one part of our community and the rights of others to be educated in a place free of discrimination and harassment.

It would be a mistake to think that a small group of students with connections to the Arab world drove these protests. What I saw was a broad representation of young people of every ethnic and religious background — passionate, intelligent and committed. Unfortunately, the actions and antisemitic comments of some — especially among those from outside our community — stirred fear and discomfort. While civil disobedience aims to disrupt, the bounds of peaceful protest were crossed with the forceful takeover of a campus building.

Free speech is the bedrock of academic inquiry and excellence. The threats it faces are real — many places ban books, curricula are sometimes determined by politicians rather than educational experts and scholars are at serious risk in many countries. 

For me, the lesson is clear. If colleges and universities cannot better define the boundaries between free speech and discrimination, government will move to fill that gap, and in ways that do not necessarily protect academic freedom. Just as our predecessors fought for desegregation and the admission of women, we need to create an educational environment where we fight all forms of prejudice, including against Arabs, Jews and Muslims. 

Second, what is the university’s role in the context of a major political crisis like the war in Gaza? There is a long history of political activism on campuses, which has contributed to many important examples of progress, such as opposition to the Vietnam war, the anti-apartheid struggle and the civil rights movement. 

Over the past few weeks, we have engaged in serious, good faith dialogue with protesters. Columbia has offered to look at fresh proposals on shareholder activism and divestment, to reaffirm our commitment to free speech, to enhance access to our global centres and dual degree programmes, and to start programmes on health and education in the occupied West Bank and Gaza. We were unable to come to agreement but this cannot be the end of the dialogue.

The protests raise an important question about how universities contribute to the common good in a crisis such as that in the Middle East. Teaching students about the issues, arranging joint study visits and research programmes, enabling conversations that cannot happen in the halls of power, providing medical and mental health support to victims are all concrete examples. In the months ahead, universities need to bring a multitude of perspectives together to focus on what more we can do.

This crisis has also revealed how vulnerable universities are to those who seek to divide us. In normal times, students and faculty can hold different views and debate them vigorously in classrooms, labs and dorm rooms, often late into the night. When external forces step in, however, this delicate coexistence can fray. We have struggled all year to curtail the doxxing and the more incendiary protests that have taken place outside our gates, as well as the relentless barrage of social-media disinformation and hate speech. We need to be more realistic about the threats these pose and aggressive in countering their impact.

Rather than tearing ourselves apart, universities must rebuild the bonds within ourselves and between society and the academy based on our shared values and on what we do best: education, research, service and public engagement. If academic communities cannot serve as a place of civil debate, what hope is there for those in the midst of war? Universities must heal themselves in order to better contribute to healing the world.

Bolton Hairy-Bore
Jul 31, 2013
FT should publish this communique from hind's hall

https://thenewinquiry.com/from-harlem-to-palestine-globalize-the-intifada/

Pink Mist
Sep 28, 2021

Lenny Nero posted:

Truly insane stuff coming from Columbia's president as an opinion piece in today's FT:
https://www.ft.com/content/18432ba2-d1f7-4661-99c8-6fd9d064b7ea

i can’t tell what she means through all the mealy mouthed garbage

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Pink Mist posted:

i can’t tell what she means through all the mealy mouthed garbage

it means they hold all the power so they will be making the decisions, but if you write a strongly worded letter they promise to read it before they shred it

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Lenny Nero posted:

Truly insane stuff coming from Columbia's president as an opinion piece in today's FT:
https://www.ft.com/content/18432ba2-d1f7-4661-99c8-6fd9d064b7ea

A lot of words to step over the fact that she called the cops on her own students protesting a genocide, and students still can't attend classes or commencement.

BRAKE FOR MOOSE
Jun 6, 2001

remember that university administration is liberalism incarnate - they hold open civil discourse as a central unassailable ethos and they will always be opposed to any disruption of order. that's fine, let them, in the end you need all kinds; as with everything in social justice, the universities will keep on being homes for lots of interesting thinkers who write a lot and do nothing in practice except outsource it to the kids. in the meantime, when they're unaligned with justice, it's on us to keep disrupting their happy little tea house.

the dumb poo poo in the letter is the vague charges of antisemitism and the blame of "outside agitators" for... something? which they think, somehow, is rhetoric that can placate shithead zionists without throwing their community under the bus. of course, anyone with a loving brain asks why you're pushing this narrative.

BRAKE FOR MOOSE has issued a correction as of 16:19 on May 10, 2024

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Lenny Nero posted:

Truly insane stuff coming from Columbia's president as an opinion piece in today's FT:
https://www.ft.com/content/18432ba2-d1f7-4661-99c8-6fd9d064b7ea

I've heard a few university admins and faculty collaborators saying encampments need to surrender or be crushed so the Republicans can't take over higher ed.

Liberals believe only they can be trusted to run the police state.

Chief McHeath
Apr 23, 2002
I’m not even gonna read what that wretched bitch wrote because I watched one of her videos after clearing the encampment and it had zero content that wasn’t intended to gaslight

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

I dare you to call it a perm again..

Lenny Nero posted:

Truly insane stuff coming from Columbia's president as an opinion piece in today's FT:
https://www.ft.com/content/18432ba2-d1f7-4661-99c8-6fd9d064b7ea

The protests raise an important question about how universities contribute to the common good in a crisis such as that in the Middle East. Teaching students about the issues, arranging joint study visits and research programmes, enabling conversations that cannot happen in the halls of power, providing medical and mental health support to victims are all concrete examples.

This has always been a weird thing to delegate to “students meeting in person far away”. It’s like the beer summit, but without leadership and you get to profit off of the students the whole time p cool idea there.

Hooplah
Jul 15, 2006


hellotoothpaste posted:

This has always been a weird thing to delegate to “students meeting in person far away”. It’s like the beer summit, but without leadership and you get to profit off of the students the whole time p cool idea there.

she means joint study with israeli students in tel aviv, so american students can learn about all the hateful ways they're being antisemitic to poor wittle iswaew

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
frogs call on scorpion to veto stinging legislation

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Chief McHeath posted:

I’m not even gonna read what that wretched bitch wrote because I watched one of her videos after clearing the encampment and it had zero content that wasn’t intended to gaslight

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

bad shoot

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Lenny Nero posted:

Truly insane stuff coming from Columbia's president as an opinion piece in today's FT:
https://www.ft.com/content/18432ba2-d1f7-4661-99c8-6fd9d064b7ea

"These are actions, not solutions."

How the gently caress do you think we get to solutions you idiot?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 17 days!)

Actions have a disproportionate and excessive reaction.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Lenny Nero posted:

Truly insane stuff coming from Columbia's president as an opinion piece in today's FT:
https://www.ft.com/content/18432ba2-d1f7-4661-99c8-6fd9d064b7ea

quote:

When I was inaugurated as Columbia’s 20th president on October 4, 2023, I called for strengthening the bond between universities and society through a recommitment to academia’s contribution to the common good. The horrors of the Hamas attack three days later, the ensuing war with Israel and the tragic loss of civilian lives in Gaza have tested that bond in unimaginable ways. I have seen the campus engulfed in tensions and divisions deepened by powerful external forces.

Pretty much stopped reading at this point. Columbia president wants to say the protesters are anti-semitic monsters and send in the police but can't and so talks about how the protests "are not helping" and other garbage like that

ram dass in hell
Dec 29, 2019



:420::toot::420:

Chief McHeath posted:

I’m not even gonna read what that wretched bitch wrote because I watched one of her videos after clearing the encampment and it had zero content that wasn’t intended to gaslight

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

bad shoot

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Arc Hammer posted:

"These are actions, not solutions."

How the gently caress do you think we get to solutions you idiot?

By making exactly the right speech and compromise, duh

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

adore that the bastions of freedom and free expression, the Universities, are in fact entirely subject to the whims and opinions of a handful of high level donors. It is a good example of why charity cannot replace a social safety net and other organized political projects because charity is dependent on the good will of and good humor of a small group of rich people and organizations

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 17 days!)

The protests aren't helping, which is why the cops were called on them. Much like when you call the liaison officer to discipline a child at school by choke slamming them into their desk.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/sh4keer/status/1788987225633616135?t=YjkIarDJDFG9vnuNRTy29A&s=19

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011


Only people like this can be trusted to run our sacred institutions.

VROOM VROOM
Jun 8, 2005
Apparently protestors in Portland went back to Portland State, tried to set up an encampment, riot cops came through to clear out the tents, and then they kettled the cops and ran them out

more on the horizon

:krakken:

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


VROOM VROOM posted:

Apparently protestors in Portland went back to Portland State, tried to set up an encampment, riot cops came through to clear out the tents, and then they kettled the cops and ran them out

more on the horizon

:krakken:

US police, trained by the IDF, also instantly fold when they aren’t beating and killing unarmed civilians who don’t fight back

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

PhilippAchtel posted:

A lot of words to step over the fact that she called the cops on her own students protesting a genocide, and students still can't attend classes or commencement.

why is everyone so mad these kids can't go to class where they get their heads filled with gender and wokeness

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

https://x.com/ADL/status/1789018066497487277
https://x.com/ADL/status/1789018069852925993

I hope everyone feels properly chastised for not being properly deferential to the violent and overtly racist mob

The Alchemist
Dec 12, 2010
Getting kicked in the teeth first and then reprimanded for "having violent rhetoric" is just monday for a leftist

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

I was beaten bloody by Zionists. But I never hated them. I said, 'Thank you for your service.'

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

They're right about the comma.

Harik
Sep 9, 2001

From the hard streets of Moscow
First dog to touch the stars


Plaster Town Cop

LGD posted:

https://x.com/ADL/status/1789018066497487277
https://x.com/ADL/status/1789018069852925993

I hope everyone feels properly chastised for not being properly deferential to the violent and overtly racist mob
drat gotta condemn palestinians now, the guys who ran a spy ring for south africa said they're bad.

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

LGD posted:

https://x.com/ADL/status/1789018066497487277
https://x.com/ADL/status/1789018069852925993

I hope everyone feels properly chastised for not being properly deferential to the violent and overtly racist mob

people are calling violent mobs of racist zionists, violent mobs of racist zionists and this is a problem

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


LGD posted:

https://x.com/ADL/status/1789018066497487277
https://x.com/ADL/status/1789018069852925993

I hope everyone feels properly chastised for not being properly deferential to the violent and overtly racist mob

There’s been a spike in people calling Zionists violent mobs after *checks notes* violent mobs of Zionist’s have attacked peaceful protests. It is antisemitism to say the factual things they’ve done, you see

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spechtie
Feb 24, 2024

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/SarahABracke/status/1789004392726778091
:toot:

edit: lol

quote:

"Priceless. This is an Israeli naval officer who participated in the atrocities in Gaza and who later went on Fox News and said he was “truly afraid” to walk on campus due to the protesting students. This time he walks into the middle of the MIT encampment and starts screaming for police to save him because he feels unsafe, while the students ignore him 😂"
https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_sda05ll0kD1qfchgr_720.mp4

spechtie has issued a correction as of 00:13 on May 11, 2024

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