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Al-Saqr: Nov 11, 2007; One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Israel thinks that the ICJ will issue a binding order to ceasfire in gaza because of South Africans intervention to issue a quick order, I dont think it will happen but who knows.

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‎Israeli Assessments that International Justice Will Order a Ceasefire‎
‎The Israel Broadcasting Corporation said that estimates in the government indicate that the International Court of Justice will order a ceasefire after South Africa requested additional emergency measures against Israel in the genocide case due to its escalation targeting Rafah in the Gaza Strip.‎

https://www.aljazeera.net/news/live...%8A%D8%A7%D8%AA

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Valleyant: Jul 23, 2007; That darn catte

Icj doesn't appear to be in much of a hurry to do anything

# ? May 11, 2024 18:53

Al-Saqr: Nov 11, 2007; One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Valleyant posted:

Icj doesn't appear to be in much of a hurry to do anything

yeah lol they dont have schedules or timetables they dont give a poo poo.

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Morbus: May 18, 2004

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Americans live day to day going to their job of pulling levers at the Trolley Problem Factory.

if i pull the lever, 50 palestinian children will be maimed, but if I don't pull the lever, shareholders of raytheon may not make quite as much money. truly a puzzle for the ages

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Ramie: Mar 2, 2021

Morbus posted:

if i pull the lever, 50 palestinian children will be maimed, but if I don't pull the lever, shareholders of raytheon may not make quite as much money. truly a puzzle for the ages

this was from back when a queer YA author was revealed to be working for Raytheon. guess what those same circles are crowing about now!

please let us not use this as a springboard for a lengthy derail. remind yourself of the doglike soul of America and move on.

Ramie has issued a correction as of 19:21 on May 11, 2024

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Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

"domestic queer citizens" lmao. Starship Troopers rear end motherfucker

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Danger: Jan 4, 2004; all desire - the thirst for oil, war, religious salvation - needs to be understood according to what he calls 'the demonogrammatical decoding of the Earth's body'

probably been mentioned and absolutely just stupid distraction but lol that Eurovision is absolutely falling apart because they are trying to run cover for the Israelis

# ? May 11, 2024 19:29

Ramie: Mar 2, 2021

It is kind of a shame that we don't have chicken lady running for Israel this year. would have killed the effort before it even started

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Space Cadet Omoly: Jan 15, 2014; ~Groovy~

Danger posted:

probably been mentioned and absolutely just stupid distraction but lol that Eurovision is absolutely falling apart because they are trying to run cover for the Israelis

Why is Israel even there? It's not a part of Europe.

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Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Why is Israel even there? It's not a part of Europe.

same reason russia isn't there anymore, op

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Valleyant: Jul 23, 2007; That darn catte

Cops and protesters are fighting at Eurovision, local train station closed.

It's been an incredible microcosm of this whole affair truncated to like 4 days

# ? May 11, 2024 19:35

Communist Thoughts: Jan 7, 2008; Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Why is Israel even there? It's not a part of Europe.

Oh well you know

# ? May 11, 2024 19:35

Valleyant: Jul 23, 2007; That darn catte

Honest answer is that it has to deal with some kind of TV network and the name is just whatever

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Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

i'd say i was surprised more samemap.jpg countries aren't in eurovision, but even dumbass euros know it'd just turn into japan vs south korea for 1st and 2nd place every year lol

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Orbs: Apr 1, 2009; ~Liberation~

It's not eurovision because you have to already be euro to join. It's euro because joining will MAKE you euro.

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Danger: Jan 4, 2004; all desire - the thirst for oil, war, religious salvation - needs to be understood according to what he calls 'the demonogrammatical decoding of the Earth's body'

they�ve been shown repeated evidence of Israel breaking the rules (a Dutch finalist was DQ�d for less) and refuse to do anything. several other countries in the finals refusing to perform. the host has indicated she will refuse to present the award if Israel wins

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Zodium: Jun 19, 2004

whitevision

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Danger: Jan 4, 2004; all desire - the thirst for oil, war, religious salvation - needs to be understood according to what he calls 'the demonogrammatical decoding of the Earth's body'

also lol some scorecard leaked early and showed that Israel somehow had 40% of the vote which made zero sense

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kecske: Feb 28, 2011; it's round, like always

the Israeli singer is a Russian who supported annexation of Crimea and plans to join the IDF after eurovision

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1stGear: Jan 16, 2010; Here's to the new us.

kecske posted:

the Israeli singer is a Russian who supported annexation of Crimea and plans to join the IDF after eurovision

the aristocrats

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Digital Jedi: May 28, 2007; Fallen Rib

kecske posted:

the Israeli singer is a Russian who supported annexation of Crimea and plans to join the IDF after eurovision

L M A O

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Al-Saqr: Nov 11, 2007; One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Is the situation that crazy over at eurovision?

Lol I had no idea, it sounds crazy

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joepinetree: Apr 5, 2012

The main sponsor of Eurovision is moroccanoil, a Israeli shampoo brand. As for voting, there are tons of people on social media instructing people on how to vote from outside Europe.

Israel soccer teams also play in UEFA competitions. Because ultimately, it is a joint European and American settler project.

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Ansar Santa: Jul 12, 2012

Hummus? Yeah we invented that. Oil from Morocco? You bet we invented it.

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Danger: Jan 4, 2004; all desire - the thirst for oil, war, religious salvation - needs to be understood according to what he calls 'the demonogrammatical decoding of the Earth's body'

they introduced �anti-booing� technology almost explicitly for Israel lol

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Hammerstein: May 6, 2005; YOU DON'T KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT RACING !

The song contest is all the western hypocrisy condensed into a 3 hour show.

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FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1788910055238037741

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Strapped down, blindfolded, held in diapers: Israeli whistleblowers detail abuse of Palestinians in shadowy detention center

Sde Teiman, Israel CNN � normal
At a military base that now doubles as a detention center in Israel�s Negev desert, an Israeli working at the facility snapped two photographs of a scene that he says continues to haunt him.

Rows of men in gray tracksuits are seen sitting on paper-thin mattresses, ringfenced by barbed wire. All appear blindfolded, their heads hanging heavy under the glare of floodlights.

A putrid stench filled the air and the room hummed with the men�s murmurs, the Israeli who was at the facility told CNN. Forbidden from speaking to each other, the detainees mumbled to themselves.

�We were told they were not allowed to move. They should sit upright. They�re not allowed to talk. Not allowed to peek under their blindfold.�

Guards were instructed �to scream uskot� � shut up in Arabic � and told to �pick people out that were problematic and punish them,� the source added.

CNN spoke to three Israeli whistleblowers who worked at the Sde Teiman desert camp, which holds Palestinians detained during Israel�s invasion of Gaza. All spoke out at risk of legal repercussions and reprisals from groups supportive of Israel�s hardline policies in Gaza.

They paint a picture of a facility where doctors sometimes amputated prisoners� limbs due to injuries sustained from constant handcuffing; of medical procedures sometimes performed by underqualified medics earning it a reputation for being �a paradise for interns�; and where the air is filled with the smell of neglected wounds left to rot.

We were told they were not allowed to move. They should sit upright. They�re not allowed to talk. Not allowed to peek under their blindfold.

An Israeli whistleblower recounting his experience at Sde Teiman

According to the accounts, the facility some 18 miles from the Gaza frontier is split into two parts: enclosures where around 70 Palestinian detainees from Gaza are placed under extreme physical restraint, and a field hospital where wounded detainees are strapped to their beds, wearing diapers and fed through straws.

�They stripped them down of anything that resembles human beings,� said one whistleblower, who worked as a medic at the facility�s field hospital.

�(The beatings) were not done to gather intelligence. They were done out of revenge,� said another whistleblower. �It was punishment for what they (the Palestinians) did on October 7 and punishment for behavior in the camp.�

Responding to CNN�s request for comment on all the allegations made in this report, the Israeli military, known as the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), said in a statement: �The IDF ensures proper conduct towards the detainees in custody. Any allegation of misconduct by IDF soldiers is examined and dealt with accordingly. In appropriate cases, MPCID (Military Police Criminal Investigation�s Division) investigations are opened when there is suspicion of misconduct justifying such action.�

�Detainees are handcuffed based on their risk level and health status. Incidents of unlawful handcuffing are not known to the authorities.�

The IDF did not directly deny accounts of people being stripped of their clothing or held in diapers. Instead, the Israeli military said that the detainees are given back their clothing once the IDF has determined that they pose no security risk.

Reports of abuse at Sde Teiman have already surfaced in Israeli and Arab media after an outcry from Israeli and Palestinian rights groups over conditions there. But this rare testimony from Israelis working at the facility sheds further light on Israel�s conduct as it wages war in Gaza, with fresh allegations of mistreatment. It also casts more doubt on the Israeli government�s repeated assertions that it acts in accordance with accepted international practices and law.

CNN has requested permission from the Israeli military to access the Sde Teiman base. Last month, a CNN team covered a small protest outside its main gate staged by Israeli activists demanding the closure of the facility. Israeli security forces questioned the team for around 30 minutes there, demanding to see the footage taken by CNN�s photojournalist. Israel often subjects reporters, even foreign journalists, to military censorship on security issues.

Detained in the desert

The Israeli military has acknowledged partially converting three different military facilities into detention camps for Palestinian detainees from Gaza since the Hamas-led October 7 attack on Israel, in which Israeli authorities say about 1,200 were killed and over 250 were abducted, and the subsequent Israeli offensive in Gaza, killing nearly 35,000 people according to the strip�s health ministry. These facilities are Sde Teiman in the Negev desert, as well as Anatot and Ofer military bases in the occupied West Bank.

The camps are part of the infrastructure of Israel�s Unlawful Combatants Law, an amended legislation passed by the Knesset last December that expanded the military�s authority to detain suspected militants.

The law permits the military to detain people for 45 days without an arrest warrant, after which they must be transferred to Israel�s formal prison system (IPS), where over 9,000 Palestinians are being held in conditions that rights groups say have drastically deteriorated since October 7. Two Palestinian prisoners associations said last week that 18 Palestinians � including leading Gaza surgeon Dr. Adnan al-Bursh � had died in Israeli custody over the course of the war.

The military detention camps � where the number of inmates is unknown � serve as a filtration point during the arrest period mandated by the Unlawful Combatants Law. After their detention in the camps, those with suspected Hamas links are transferred to the IPS, while those whose militant ties have been ruled out are released back to Gaza.

CNN interviewed over a dozen former Gazan detainees who appeared to have been released from those camps. They said they could not determine where they were held because they were blindfolded through most of their detention and cut off from the outside world. But the details of their accounts tally with those of the whistleblowers.

Hear from former detainees held inside Sde Teiman.

�We looked forward to the night so we could sleep. Then we looked forward to the morning in hopes that our situation might change,� said Dr. Mohammed al-Ran, recalling his detainment at a military facility where he said he endured desert temperatures, swinging from the heat of the day to the chill of night. CNN interviewed him outside Gaza last month.

Al-Ran, a Palestinian who holds Bosnian citizenship, headed the surgical unit at northern Gaza�s Indonesian hospital, one of the first to be shut down and raided as Israel carried out its aerial, ground and naval offensive.

He was arrested on December 18, he said, outside Gaza City�s Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital, where he had been working for three days after fleeing his hospital in the heavily bombarded north.

He was stripped down to his underwear, blindfolded and his wrists tied, then dumped in the back of a truck where, he said, the near-naked detainees were piled on top of one another as they were shuttled to a detention camp in the middle of the desert.

The details in his account are consistent with those of dozens of others collected by CNN recounting the conditions of arrest in Gaza. His account is also supported by numerous images depicting mass arrests published on social media profiles belonging to Israeli soldiers. Many of those images show captive Gazans, their wrists or ankles tied by cables, in their underwear and blindfolded.

Al-Ran was held in a military detention center for 44 days, he told CNN. �Our days were filled with prayer, tears, and supplication. This eased our agony,� said al-Ran.

�We cried and cried and cried. We cried for ourselves, cried for our nation, cried for our community, cried for our loved ones. We cried about everything that crossed our minds.�

A week into his imprisonment, the detention camp�s authorities ordered him to act as an intermediary between the guards and the prisoners, a role known as Shawish, �supervisor,� in vernacular Arabic.

According to the Israeli whistleblowers, a Shawish is normally a prisoner who has been cleared of suspected links to Hamas after interrogation.

The Israeli military denied holding detainees unnecessarily, or using them for translation purposes. �If there is no reason for continued detention, the detainees are released back to Gaza,� they said in a statement.

Our days were filled with prayer, tears, and supplication. This eased our agony.

Former detainee Dr. Mohammed al-Ran

However, whistleblower and detainee accounts � particularly pertaining to Shawish � cast doubt on the IDF�s depiction of its clearing process. Al-Ran says that he served as Shawish for several weeks after he was cleared of Hamas links. Whistleblowers also said that the absolved Shawish served as intermediaries for some time.

They are typically proficient in Hebrew, according to the eyewitnesses, enabling them to communicate the guards� orders to the rest of the prisoners in Arabic.

For that, al-Ran said he was given a special privilege: his blindfold was removed. He said this was another kind of hell.

�Part of my torture was being able to see how people were being tortured,� he said. �At first you couldn�t see. You couldn�t see the torture, the vengeance, the oppression.

�When they removed my blindfold, I could see the extent of the humiliation and abasement � I could see the extent to which they saw us not as human beings but as animals.�

Al-Ran�s account of the forms of punishment he saw were corroborated by the whistleblowers who spoke with CNN. A prisoner who committed an offense such as speaking to another would be ordered to raise his arms above his head for up to an hour. The prisoner�s hands would sometimes be zip-tied to a fence to ensure that he did not come out of the stress position.

For those who repeatedly breached the prohibition on speaking and moving, the punishment became more severe. Israeli guards would sometimes take a prisoner to an area outside the enclosure and beat him aggressively, according to two whistleblowers and al-Ran. A whistleblower who worked as a guard said he saw a man emerge from a beating with his teeth, and some bones, apparently broken.

When they removed my blindfold, I could see the extent of the humiliation and abasement � I could see the extent to which they saw us not as human beings but as animals.

Former detainee Dr. Mohammed Al-Ran

That whistleblower and al-Ran also described a routine search when the guards would unleash large dogs on sleeping detainees, lobbing a sound grenade at the enclosure as troops barged in. Al-Ran called this �the nightly torture.�

�While we were cabled, they unleashed the dogs that would move between us, and trample over us,� said al-Ran. �You�d be lying on your belly, your face pressed against the ground. You can�t move, and they�re moving above you.�

The same whistleblower recounted the search in the same harrowing detail. �It was a special unit of the military police that did the so-called search,� said the source. �But really it was an excuse to hit them. It was a terrifying situation.�

�There was a lot of screaming and dogs barking.�

Strapped to beds in a field hospital

Whistleblower accounts portrayed a different kind of horror at the Sde Teiman field hospital.

�What I felt when I was dealing with those patients is an idea of total vulnerability,� said one medic who worked at Sde Teiman.

�If you imagine yourself being unable to move, being unable to see what�s going on, and being completely naked, that leaves you completely exposed,� the source said. �I think that�s something that borders on, if not crosses to, psychological torture.�

Another whistleblower said he was ordered to perform medical procedures on the Palestinian detainees for which he was not qualified.

�I was asked to learn how to do things on the patients, performing minor medical procedures that are totally outside my expertise,� he said, adding that this was frequently done without anesthesia.

�If they complained about pain, they would be given paracetamol,� he said, using another name for acetaminophen.

�Just being there felt like being complicit in abuse.�

See the model CNN has recreated based on eyewitness accounts showing inside Sde Teiman

The same whistleblower also said he witnessed an amputation performed on a man who had sustained injuries caused by the constant zip-tying of his wrists. The account tallied with details of a letter authored by a doctor working at Sde Teiman published by Ha�aretz in April.

�From the first days of the medical facility�s operation until today, I have faced serious ethical dilemmas,� said the letter addressed to Israel�s attorney general, and its health and defense ministries, according to Ha�aretz. �More than that, I am writing (this letter) to warn you that the facilities� operations do not comply with a single section among those dealing with health in the Incarceration of Unlawful Combatants Law.�

An IDF spokesperson denied the allegations reported by Ha�aretz in a written statement to CNN at the time, saying that medical procedures were conducted with �extreme care� and in accordance with Israeli and international law.

The spokesperson added that the handcuffing of the detainees was done in �accordance with procedures, their health condition and the level of danger posed by them,� and that any allegation of violence would be examined.

They stripped them down of anything that resembles human beings.

An Israeli whistleblower recalling his experience at Sde Teiman

Whistleblowers also said that medical team were told to refrain from signing medical documents, corroborating previous reporting by rights group Physicians for Human Rights in Israel (PHRI).

The PHRI report released in April warned of �a serious concern that anonymity is employed to prevent the possibility of investigations or complaints regarding breaches of medical ethics and professionalism.�

�You don�t sign anything, and there is no verification of authority,� said the same whistleblower who said he lacked the appropriate training for the treatment he was asked to administer. �It is a paradise for interns because it�s like you do whatever you want.�

CNN also requested comment from the Israeli health ministry on the allegations in this report. The ministry referred CNN back to the IDF.

Concealed from the outside world

Sde Teiman and other military detention camps have been shrouded in secrecy since their inception. Israel has repeatedly refused requests to disclose the number of detainees held at the facilities, or to reveal the whereabouts of Gazan prisoners.

Last Wednesday, the Israeli Supreme Court held a hearing in response to a petition brought forward by Israeli rights group, HaMoked, to reveal the location of a Palestinian X-Ray technician detained from Nasser Hospital in southern Gaza in February. It was the first court session of its kind since October 7.

Israel�s highest court had previously rejected writs of habeas corpus filed on behalf of dozens of Palestinians from Gaza held in unknown locations.

The disappearances �allows for the atrocities that we�ve been hearing about to happen,� said Tal Steiner, an Israeli human rights lawyer and executive director of the Public Committee Against Torture in Israel.

�People completely disconnected from the outside world are the most vulnerable to torture and mistreatment,� Steiner said in an interview with CNN.

Since October 7, more than 100 structures, including large tents and hangars, appeared within these areas of the Sde Teiman desert camp. Planet Labs PBC

Satellite images provide further insight into activities at Sde Teiman, revealing that in the months since the start of the Israel-Hamas war on October 7, more than 100 new structures, including large tents and hangars, have been built at the desert camp. A comparison of aerial photographs from September 10, 2023 and March 1 this year also showed a significant increase in the number of vehicles at the facility, indicating an uptick in activity. Satellite imagery from two dates in early December showed construction work in progress.

CNN also geolocated the two leaked photographs showing the enclosure holding the group of blindfolded men in gray tracksuits. The pattern of panels seen on the roof matched those of a large hangar visible in satellite imagery. The structure, which resembles an animal pen, is located in the central area of the Sde Teiman compound. It is an older structure seen among new buildings which have appeared since the war began.

CNN reviewed satellite images from two other military detention camps � Ofer and Anatot bases in the occupied West Bank � and did not detect expansion in the grounds since October 7. Several rights groups and legal experts say they believe that Sde Teiman, which is the nearest to Gaza, likely hosts the largest number of detainees of the three military detention camps.

�I was there for 23 days. Twenty-three days that felt like 100 years,� said 27-year-old Ibrahim Yassine on the day of his release from a military detention camp.

He was lying in a crowded room with over a dozen newly freed men � they were still in the grey tracksuit prison uniforms. Some had deep flesh wounds from where the handcuffs had been removed.

�We were handcuffed and blindfolded,� said another man, 43-year-old Sufyan Abu Salah. �Today is the first day I can see.�

Several had a glassy look in their eyes and were seemingly emaciated. One elderly man breathed through an oxygen machine as he lay on a stretcher. Outside the hospital, two freed men from the Palestinian Red Crescent Society embraced their colleagues.

For Dr. Al-Ran, his reunion with his friends was anything but joyful. The experience, he said, rendered him mute for a month as he battled an �emotional deadness.�

�It was very painful. When I was released, people expected me to miss them, to embrace them. But there was a gap,� said al-Ran. �The people who were with me at the detention facility became my family. Those friendships were the only things that belonged to us.�

Just before his release, a fellow prisoner had called out to him, his voice barely rising above a whisper, al-Ran said. He asked the doctor to find his wife and kids in Gaza. �He asked me to tell them that it is better for them to be martyrs,� said al-Ran. �It is better for them to die than to be captured and held here.�

Literal concentration camps. Paul_Soccer was correct, good, and righteous.

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Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

Zodium posted:

whitevision

It really is them just being like "yeah we are a European settler colony"!

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smoobles: Sep 4, 2014

Israel should be allowed to participate in Eurovision because 90% of their population was born in Europe

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SplitSoul: Dec 31, 2000

Jedward left the venue to protest Israel and Greta was manhandled by cops.

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BadOptics: Sep 11, 2012

FlapYoJacks posted:

Paul_Soccer was correct, good, and righteous.

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MSDOS KAPITAL: Jun 25, 2018

FlapYoJacks posted:

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1788910055238037741

Literal concentration camps. Paul_Soccer was correct, good, and righteous.

you mean when he suggested that everyone in the idf must die? yeah, I agree

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VoicesCanBe: Jul 1, 2023; "Cóż, wygląda na to, że zostaliśmy łaskawie oszczędzeni trudu decydowania o własnym losie. Jakże uprzejme z ich strony, że przearanżowali Europę bez kłopotu naszego zdania!"

FlapYoJacks posted:

Paul_Soccer was correct, good, and righteous.

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Mokotow: Apr 16, 2012

gently caress the loving eurovision fucks, DIA

In Rome on the Campo dei Fiori
Baskets of olives and lemons,
Cobbles spattered with wine
And the wreckage of flowers.
Vendors cover the trestles
With rose-pink fish;
Armfuls of dark grapes
Heaped on peach-down.

On this same square
They burned Giordano Bruno.
Henchmen kindled the pyre
Close-pressed by the mob.
Before the flames had died
The taverns were full again,
Baskets of olives and lemons
Again on the vendors' shoulders.

I thought of the Campo dei Fiori
In Warsaw by the sky-carousel
One clear spring evening
To the strains of a carnival tune.
The bright melody drowned
The salvos from the ghetto wall,
And couples were flying
High in the cloudless sky.

At times wind from the burning
Would drift dark kites along
And riders on the carousel
Caught petals in midair.
That same hot wind
Blew open the skirts of the girls
And the crowds were laughing
On that beautiful Warsaw Sunday.

Someone will read as moral
That the people of Rome or Warsaw
Haggle, laugh, make love
As they pass by martyrs' pyres.
Someone else will read
Of the passing of things human,
Of the oblivion
Born before the flames have died.

But that day I thought only
Of the loneliness of the dying,
Of how, when Giordano
Climbed to his burning
There were no words
In any human tongue
To be left for mankind,
Mankind who live on.

Already they were back at their wine
Or peddled their white starfish,
Baskets of olives and lemons
They had shouldered to the fair,
And he already distanced
As if centuries had passed
While they paused just a moment
For his flying in the fire.

Those dying here, the lonely
Forgotten by the world,
Our tongue becomes for them
The language of an ancient planet.
Until, when all is legend
And many years have passed,
On a great Campo dei Fiori
Rage will kindle at a poet's word.

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Chillgamesh: Jul 29, 2014

They should just stop pretending and let the US into Eurovision

# ? May 11, 2024 21:22

Danger: Jan 4, 2004; all desire - the thirst for oil, war, religious salvation - needs to be understood according to what he calls 'the demonogrammatical decoding of the Earth's body'

Chillgamesh posted:

They should just stop pretending and let the US into Eurovision

wouldn�t be fair as the us could just send Twisted Sister every year and sweep it

# ? May 11, 2024 21:26

Mandel Brotset: Jan 1, 2024

FlapYoJacks posted:

Paul_Soccer was correct, good, and righteous.

# ? May 11, 2024 21:38

Hammerstein: May 6, 2005; YOU DON'T KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT RACING !

Danger posted:

wouldn�t be fair as the us could just send Twisted Sister every year and sweep it

And as a genocide lover, who encourages the Israeli Einsatzgruppen to sing his song, he would fit right in.

# ? May 11, 2024 21:40

Ghetto Prince: Sep 11, 2010; got to be mellow, y'all

Free Paul Soccer, his only crime was being right just a little too early, like when one popcorn kernel goes off a minute before all the others do.

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Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

Ghetto Prince posted:

Free Paul Soccer, his only crime was being right just a little too early, like when one popcorn kernel goes off a minute before all the others do.

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