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Like at that point the raptors are so Monsterified that they will go out of their way to smash their skulls through every single window (even when there's a door) just to pursue like, one prey. Its all part of the vibes. It is at its heart a deeply silly and fun film imo, like I completely stand by raptors getting kicked in the face and t-rexes stomping around San Diego, complete with Godzilla homage, devouring people outside of Blockbusters. It's pure creature feature in a way the first one wasn't.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Seriously this movie needed to end with Vince Vaughn being put in the electric chair. You even sabotaged the dude's gun while in his party?! Did you have a secret alliance with the loving t rex??? I mean, pretty much. He's a radical environmental activist. There's like, two or three T-Rexes in the entire world. He values them more than the people. Punkin Spunkin posted:The thing about Malcolm is, as much as I love Goldblum, the character is a pseudo-intellectual imbecile who mostly just says things that were memetic and sounded "about right". That whole standing on the shoulders of geniuses thing is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. You're just describing how scientific advancement works you gently caress!! His character is well aware that he's critiquing the process of scientific advancement as a whole.
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# ? May 12, 2024 00:25 |
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Sir Kodiak posted:His character is well aware that he's critiquing the process of scientific advancement as a whole. But this is Crichton after all. The man was a dingus. Sir Kodiak posted:I mean, pretty much. He's a radical environmental activist. There's like, two or three T-Rexes in the entire world. He values them more than the people.
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# ? May 12, 2024 00:27 |
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Yeah, I basically think the issue with the Vince Vaughn stuff is that he doesn't play the character as the sort of fully-invested radical who'd rather die than let the hunter have the T-Rex. It works as a concept, I think, but I don't blame you for not finding it convincing on-screen. In regards to Malcolm, yeah, I'm not saying I agree with his argument, just that I think his reference to Hammond/Wu standing on the shoulders of giants isn't unknowingly a description of how scientific advancement works. He's purposely taking a shot at all of it. Ellie Sattler is who to look for if you want a more moderate opinion. And in general she's a huge part of what The Lost World is missing. Sarah Harding just isn't as strong a character.
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# ? May 12, 2024 00:39 |
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I just remember being confused as a kid because Malcolm unambiguously died in the first book and Michael Crichton did a "somehow, Ian returned" so he could come back for the sequel
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I loathe Jurassic Park 2, it's bad on rare blockbuster fundamentals such as lousy editing and storyboarding Seriously https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxckH-K5SqC8rTicfshtcWiV2MbJ94dVE4?si=gbeCGZUMJnpSMQFe How the gently caress did she get there?
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Inspector Hound posted:I just remember being confused as a kid because Malcolm unambiguously died in the first book and Michael Crichton did a "somehow, Ian returned" so he could come back for the sequel Yeah "Oh poo poo Jelf Goldblum killed this part, we need to do a 'reports of my death were exaggerated' for sure!" For some reason when I read Jurassic Park I pictured Ian Malcolm as African American so it was bizarre casting in my mind, but then I talked to other people who read the book and they're like "Why would you think that?" and I have no idea haha
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# ? May 12, 2024 14:09 |
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Malcolm from Cosby
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Medullah posted:Yeah "Oh poo poo Jelf Goldblum killed this part, we need to do a 'reports of my death were exaggerated' for sure!" Shageletic posted:Malcolm from Cosby I also didn't picture him wearing a leather jacket which Crichton was very explicit out, so my assumption is I read a passage describing his black leather jacket and uhh...missed part of it.
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By coincidence, I've just been catching up with Jurassic World Dominion. There's a cool idea there - dinos have become commonplace, they're an ecological threat, everyone is looking to exploit them or make a buck. And man, JWD just ladles the mediocrity on. There's so much wrong that I could make a very long list but: * Too many characters * Too many subplots * Too many people screaming at green-screened dinos * Chris Pratt acting by squinting and clenching his jaw * Apparently you can hold off a vicious dino by crouching and holding your hand out in front of you, because everyone does it * Evil company plot because ... but then no one's motive makes sense in this film * Evil Tim Cook * So many repeats and references to the first film As has been said, you could criticize JP in several ways, but it's well made enough that you don't think of the plot holes. JWD makes you think constantly about the plot holes.
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I enjoyed my JP and Lost World rewatches after maybe not having seen them in 15 years but I don't think I'll ever go any further than the second Jurassic World. Fool me once... I do technically have JPIII but I'm not really enthusiastic about rewatching it even if it is probably better than the JW movies. Spielberg should've just directed that himself. What else did he have going on??
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JPIII is also shockingly refreshing in light of modern day blockbuster sins. There's not much meat on its bones, but at least it's not bloated.
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nonathlon posted:By coincidence, I've just been catching up with Jurassic World Dominion. There's a cool idea there - dinos have become commonplace, they're an ecological threat, everyone is looking to exploit them or make a buck. I couldn't handle it past the awful CGI dinosaur in the first scene (or one of the first scenes?). If you're going to lead with something that low-rent despite having a larger budget than god I'm moving on.
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nonathlon posted:* Too many characters I hated the climax where the whole good human ensemble assembles and they have this group of something like almost a dozen people bunched together for the duration of the final action scene. Surely they could have had the dinos chow down on some of them earlier in the film.
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Watching that TWISTERS trailer made me instantly recognize all THE LOST WORLD dna. Also the movie should be about two sisters.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Watching that TWISTERS trailer made me instantly recognize all THE LOST WORLD dna. Also the movie should be about two sisters.
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High Warlord Zog posted:I hated the climax where the whole good human ensemble assembles and they have this group of something like almost a dozen people bunched together for the duration of the final action scene. Surely they could have had the dinos chow down on some of them earlier in the film. That's a good point. For large parts of the film, there's too many characters for the things that need to happen.
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Does the trailer ask where the tornado was on January 6th?
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Upsidads posted:Does the trailer ask where the tornado was on January 6th? Once you hear the answer you might be blown away.
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Still cracks me up that Malcom fully dies in Jurassic Park the book, but since he survived in the movie, Michael Crichton wrote the character back in the sequel with a "I dunno, I guess he's still alive somehow, don't worry about it" plot.
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Malcom predicted his return. Life, uh, finds a way.
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It really doesn't even matter that Vaughn takes the one dudes bullets because literally noone in this army of dino-wrangling mercs ever bothers to just turn around and shoot a dinosaurs in the face. Like at least Aliens made a point of disarming the marines before the space panthers killed them. In JP2 everyone just chucks their gun and hauls rear end like an idiot.
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Season 2 of BSG is just the most INTENSE poo poo happening every minute of every episode.
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banned from Starbucks posted:It really doesn't even matter that Vaughn takes the one dudes bullets because literally noone in this army of dino-wrangling mercs ever bothers to just turn around and shoot a dinosaurs in the face. Like at least Aliens made a point of disarming the marines before the space panthers killed them. In JP2 everyone just chucks their gun and hauls rear end like an idiot.
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Finally watched Ripley and really enjoyed it. It's really hardly like the famous movie at all, other than following the same general story - kind of a noir version. All the Caravaggio poo poo really resonated with me.
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Glottis posted:Finally watched Ripley and really enjoyed it. It's really hardly like the famous movie at all, other than following the same general story - kind of a noir version. All the Caravaggio poo poo really resonated with me. Hey man alien was also pretty great
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banned from Starbucks posted:It really doesn't even matter that Vaughn takes the one dudes bullets because literally noone in this army of dino-wrangling mercs ever bothers to just turn around and shoot a dinosaurs in the face. Like at least Aliens made a point of disarming the marines before the space panthers killed them. In JP2 everyone just chucks their gun and hauls rear end like an idiot. That scene in aliens is so silly, they just keep some ammo in their pockets and load their guns again right away, it doesn't stop them from shooting at all
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# ? May 14, 2024 06:10 |
watched the gran turismo movie on the airplane, it was sweet. if you like gran turismo that is. started out kinda awkward but lots of payoffs and it builds really good imo. probably a solid action movie for anyone who liked tokyo drift or the f1 docuseries put on the holdovers, I love paul giamatti dude A MIRACLE fucked around with this message at 02:32 on May 15, 2024 |
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Inspector Hound posted:That scene in aliens is so silly, they just keep some ammo in their pockets and load their guns again right away, it doesn't stop them from shooting at all I think it's a scene that doesn't make much sense of you've never worked for a bureaucratic organization, but if you have it's the most perfect scene on film.
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Famethrowa posted:my awful take is that I genuinely find Spielberg unbearable in most of his work. he just doesn't hit for me and I'm not sure why. Too much schmaltz? While I don't feel this quite as strongly as you seem to, I definitely know there this is coming from. Saving Private Ryan gets a bit away from me because (despite the gore and war crimes) I have too much fun. Munich, on the other hand, makes me feel like he can't use his normally deft hand with something so dour despite me actually liking the movie more than most seem to.
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e oops
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Pigma_Micron posted:While I don't feel this quite as strongly as you seem to, I definitely know there this is coming from. I'm not a Spielberg fan by any means but Saving Private Ryan is fantastic. Great action sequences, great acting and it's paced really well especially for being as long as it is.
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# ? May 15, 2024 19:40 |
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Saving Private Ryan is like family friendly Apocalypse Now
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# ? May 15, 2024 21:49 |
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I've seen Saving Private Ryan many times but when I watch it now it just pisses me off. Tom Hanks' Captain Miller just keeps getting his men in dumbass situations that end up with them getting killed. He's got a mission and orders but half the movie is stupid sidequests.
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# ? May 15, 2024 21:53 |
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Eh kind of. Saving Private Ryan is more straightforward than Apocalypze, but Ryan definitely has more gore and intense violence.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I've seen Saving Private Ryan many times but when I watch it now it just pisses me off. Tom Hanks' Captain Miller just keeps getting his men in dumbass situations that end up with them getting killed. He's got a mission and orders but half the movie is stupid sidequests. This is one of the most inane criticisms of the film I can imagine. On the way to Ryan there's two vignettes and an attack on a German fortification. There's a scene where the men debate keeping to the mission or taking out the German position - it's very extremely important in terms of establishing the squad's dynamics and some key personalities. Sounds like you just watched the movie too much and it became a collection of tropes. That's a bummer.
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# ? May 15, 2024 22:26 |
What channel is saving private Ryan on
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# ? May 15, 2024 23:05 |
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A MIRACLE posted:What channel is saving private Ryan on The English Channel, well at least the first bit.
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# ? May 15, 2024 23:08 |
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ya'll watch Delicious in Dungeon
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The Phantom Menace and The Lost World have both aged gracefully because of the degeneration of blockbuster films over the last 25 years. The only Disney movie willing to try new goofy bullshit like PM is TLJ. Otherwise they feel so desperately self-referential and the fact that they're more so than the anakin prequel is shocking. Hadn't seen it since I was a kid, but like The Lost World it's a series of highly competent action set pieces that were once considered part of a meandering bloated film but feel almost well paced now when you realize every random rear end mainstream release is 40 minutes longer than them now. Honestly remove the racist voices and you've got a fantastic Star Wars movie. The RLM criticisms that went memetic now seem so silly now; I like the political jargon (this is a series loved by adults and children and that's in the spirit of sci fi jibberish, how disingenuous is it for a group of adults from the midwest to be like "this is byzantine and obtuse for children's media but also we're gonna pretend this isnt also a cultural event that had widespread appeal, why else are we adults making our careers talking about these movies for hours until we're senior citizens"), and there's something charmingly goofy about the dialogue and practical effect alien suits. Jake Lloyd speaking that alien language is hilarious. It moves quicker than every Marvel movie ever and by the time Duel of the Fates plays you're in for some good times. The real problem other than the super racist flash Gordon alien accents is the Jar Jar Conundrum, but he feels more harmless than ever on a movie screen in 2024. He can't hurt you anymore. For some reason his animation has aged worse than any other element so its like the Jedi randomly get a character from a Shrek PS4 game who does random bad slapstick Punkin Spunkin fucked around with this message at 23:40 on May 15, 2024 |
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