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KingKapalone posted:Where does the 8 usually drop to $549? Strange that the trade-in value for my S21 towards the 8a is $186 but for the 8 it's only $90. Google store. It was $549 mid April and just recently went back to full price.
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I had an interesting bug with Android Auto last night. We left a concert around 11:45, and when the clock on Auto hit midnight, it stuck there for the rest of the drive. Separately, is there a way to share tasks on Google Calendars?
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I am really tempted to order an 8a. They are offering a trade in for my p6a that is almost the price I originally paid for it. And I keep getting annoyed at the fact that I just missed out on wireless charging coming to the A series.
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The 8a should be a pretty significant upgrade over the 6a. The G3 is a much better processor (and modem) compared to the G1. You get 120hz instead of 60hz. You get wireless charging. You get newer camera sensors. You get secure face unlock. The screen can get much much brighter. If you can trade in a 6a for what you paid for it, it should be a no brainer.
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I need to not eBay and Drink.   $360 new in box. Don't have time to play with it at the moment. Word on the Internet is they've been pushing monthly security updates, but will probably only get updated to Android 16.
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May 11, 2024 20:29
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That astrophoto mode on my Pixel 7 Pro delivered last night.  
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Hell yeah, gonna try that tonight.
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I'd be remiss not to share the astrophotography thread as well if anyone is looking for more pictures! https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3155317
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IO starts in an hourish. Link for the lazy: https://www.youtube.com/live/XEzRZ35urlk?si=feTit5ie2dM2VQyz Something something AI
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Vagrancy posted:IO starts in an hourish. Link for the lazy: is there a thread to live-shitpost about this?
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May 14, 2024 17:34
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ShoogaSlim posted:is there a thread to live-shitpost about this? For the past couple of years this thread has essentially become the official place for that, since everywhere else has become too cynical about Goog even go through the motions of watching the stream to shitpost (even in YOSPOS).
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May 14, 2024 17:58
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I think we all just want "the next big thing" that's going to change things in some fundamental way. I mean, Apple just announced iPads with chips faster than their top of the line macbooks last week. I think we've passed the ability to run procreate smoothly awhile ago. Everything else has just been overkill. Mobile computing peaked in like 2019 and it's all just pissing around now. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 18:02 on May 14, 2024 |
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TBH, I'm glad I no longer "care" about phone news. Just gimme every other Pixel and let me waste my time on some other stupid thing
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Getting actual artists to show off their generative tools is some villain poo poo.
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CRAYON posted:Getting actual artists to show off their generative tools is some villain poo poo. U mad? They are still just tools at the end of the day, it's not like AI knows what sounds good to the human ear. People probably freaked out about the synth in a similar way.
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It's good to get the artists involved so they can inform the conversation about when and how it is appropriate to use these tools. Generative AI is the latest buzzword, but automated tools have been used to make edits and automate manual work for awhile now. For example, key frame automation has been used in animation for a long time now. The key pieces are to ensure the training data is sourced ethically and that the tools are used as part of a workflow to create something new rather than regurgitate a remix.
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May 14, 2024 19:06
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this AI poo poo is so loving stupid and pointless and i loving hate it
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CLAM DOWN posted:this AI poo poo is so loving stupid and pointless and i loving hate it Right now, I would equate it with WAP Browsers. At the time, they were mostly useless and limited capability, but they were important stepping stones to get to what is next.
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bull3964 posted:Right now, I would equate it with WAP Browsers. At the time, they were mostly useless and limited capability, but they were important stepping stones to get to what is next. i hope you're right because every instance of "AI" right now makes me want to stab my phone and computer and the entire internet with a dull rusty rail spike
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May 14, 2024 19:31
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bull3964 posted:For example, key frame automation has been used in animation for a long time now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger_(1973_film) https://www.nfb.ca/film/hunger/ https://www.nfb.ca/film/metadata_en/
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no android 15 beta 2/final feature announcements until tomorrow not ai enough for today.
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jesus loving christ, an hour and a half in and they're still talking about gemini 1.5 pro flash advance or loving whatever?
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I mean, it's a developer conference and this is what's seeing the most development work in the entire industry right now. Expect WWDC to be much the same with Apple using pseudonyms for "AI" so as not to dirty themselves.
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Sure, but it would be nice to see them talk about any of their other platforms as well. Are ChromeOS, Android, etc. getting any mentions other than "now includes Gemini"?
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It’s over finally lol
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Branch Nvidian posted:Sure, but it would be nice to see them talk about any of their other platforms as well. Are ChromeOS, Android, etc. getting any mentions other than "now includes Gemini"? It's a multi day conference and this is just the keynote.
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Branch Nvidian posted:Sure, but it would be nice to see them talk about any of their other platforms as well. Are ChromeOS, Android, etc. getting any mentions other than "now includes Gemini"? This years strategy seems to be "Look just watch The Verge's pre-recorded Android 15/Android XR videos that they'll shadow drop tomorrow ok" bull3964 posted:I mean, it's a developer conference and this is what's seeing the most development work in the entire industry right now. The "IO is a developer conference so the main keynote's content being dull to consumers is natural/fine" became less convincing when they switched to the WWDC main + developer keynote split format and fell apart when they had the pre-release Pixel hardware bonanza two years ago. It's Google's State of the Union press release for the year, some of which just happens to be of relevance to devs. Even though they're jumping on the same Silicon Valley Gen AI hype train, Apple's base framing of "Here's the OS which will run on your Apple Devices a couple of months from now" is an inherently interesting story to early adopters/power users because the OS is essentially the product itself (which is part of the reason why it gets orders of magnitude more viewing numbers). I think a major cause in the difference in style is the target audience: IO keynotes now first and foremost seem to primarily target investors and answering their doubts(How well are you positioned against OpenAI????), with developers and users trailing 2nd and 3rd place as concerns. WWDC main keynotes do a much better job of appealing to all three demographics. Even though it was "successful" (GOOG up before market close), not sure sacrificing the later is the way to go long term.
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I/O can't be the same as the main WWDC keynote though because Google's business is broader. The Apple keynote is for investors too, it's just the investor expectations between the two companies are different. Do you think the Vision Pro announcement in 2023 was for developers when, a year later, we still don't really have much of anything compelling being made for the hardware? It was made to show investors that they have a new $3500 product category that will hopefully shore up the hardware business. Ditto for the 15" MacBook Air. Apple needed to plug that hole for investors since they were losing customers in-between the smaller Air and the larger much more expensive MacBook. Android is not Google's only product, it's not even their main product. It's not like Apple spent a ton of time on iOS 17 last year either, most of the keynote was hardware announcements which is especially weird for a developer conference since most of that hardware wasn't enabling new software experiences (outside of the Vision Pro.) Mobile operating systems are pretty mature at this point and unless Google wanted to switch their phone releases to be much earlier in the year, it doesn't make sense for them to regularly show off hardware here either since it's going to be half a year before you can buy it.
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CLAM DOWN posted:this AI poo poo is so loving stupid and pointless and i loving hate it my entire life right now is pretending its awesome and i loving hate it
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My review of the brand new $360 Motorola Thinkphone I bought on a whim. It kinda owns for the price, I say kinda because there's a couple glaring caveats. From worst to best: Terrible: Motorola is still vehemently against Always-On Displays, even for their OLED equipped phones. Pretty inexcusable not just in 2024, but in 2023, 2022...etc. Instead Motorola relies on the old-fashioned method of having to lift the phone or tap the display to get it to wake up if you missed the screen waking up when a notification comes in. I am so used to glancing at my Pixel and seeing if a new notification has appeared while it sits on its stand that this kind of behavior just feels archaic. If you don't care for AOD, or turn it off on your phones, maybe that's not an issue, but to me it seems to be a requirement on phones these days. I don't think the phone uses a fancy LTPO OLED that can throttle down the refresh rate super far, maybe that's part of the reason Motorola is so against AOD, maybe it would cripple the things standby time. Still, to not even provide the option. Not even when plugged in or on a wireless charger, is just so mind boggling from Motorola that it almost feels like an intentional dick move. Not Great, Not Terrible: This phone originally listed for $700 when it went on sale in the US and at that price, the camera performance was a joke. Pick any A-series Pixel and it will smoke this thing when it comes to imaging. Under 400 dollars though, the performance is a lot more bearable. Dynamic range lacking; you won't get magical detail from shadows. But from the few photos I took, they're not gross. There's a night mode which greatly enhances low light shots (still no match for the best), and daytime shots are perfectly fine. Nothing will wow you about the cameras. I notices a weird battery drain issue with the default factory moto clock widget. Stuck another clock on the homescreen, solved that issue. Motorola says the thing will only get updated to Android 16, with a total of 4 years of security updates. They at least seem to be rolling out monthly for now. Mine is on the May security patch, my OnePlus 11 meanwhile just got the April update. The display is perfectly fine in use and can boost its refresh rate up to 120hz, or even 144hz manually, but then its stuck at 144hz. It doesn't get quite as bright as the current crop of top smartphones, but I was able to read the display outside on a sunny day. The P8Pro display is clearly superior. Nice: The Snapdragon 8 Plus Gen1 is still a great SoC. The speed and efficiency is probably on par or better than the Tensor G3. Wifi seems particularly good; it holds onto my works spotty access points really well which I have noticed. Battery life seems to be a tiny bit better than my P8Pro, but it's maybe an extra 5% at the end of the day, maybe 10% tops? Both phones get me through a whole day without issue. After a 12 hour day with 3 hours of screen-on time, it was sitting right at 70%, which is pretty good. The OS very much reminds me of my pixel with a few Moto extras thrown in. I missed the chopping motion for the flashlight and the Twist-to-Camera. These are fantastic little touches. There's built in Dolby software for sound tuning, but I actually prefer Wavelet anyways. ACTION BUTTON(!) is programmable for either single or double press, I have it set to open a weather app I use a dozen times a day. Phone came with a 68watt charger and hard plastic shell which I don't think will do anything for drops, but should keep the back from getting marred. Because the cameras are lame, the rear module doesn't stick out very far. The phone itself is a nice size. It kind splits the difference between the P8 and P8Pro, but is definitely closer to the Pro than the smaller 8's. I don't have a case so the thing feels absolutely small in my pocket compared to my up-armored P8Pro. The optical fingerprint sensor is good! Real Good. It's placed oddly low on the display but so far it's been surprisingly fast and reliable. Google should use this sensor. Great: Phone feels amazingly well constructed. Not just for a 400 dollar phone, not even at 700, it feels more solid and premium than even my Pixel 8P. I didn't even bother to put a case on it because I love the way it feels in my hand. Black satin aluminum frame with tiny chamfers with a flat side and top profile, but not excessively thick as to feel like holding a brick. The flat frame is not uniform either, the sides slim down a bit compared to the top and bottom, which I think help it feel better in hand than say, my old iphone 12. I actually got the phone to stand straight up on a flat surface, though I don't recommend this. The aramid fiber rear panel is surprisingly soft touch and even has a bit of grip to it, more than my P8Pro anyways. Pixel's since the 6 have been constructed in a way that makes them more easily repairable, but has led to some people feeling like the phones feel more "hollow", like there's dead space under the display and rear panel that can impart a sense of cheapness. It actually bothered me when I got my P7Pro, then I just kind of forgot about it. Now I notice it again on my 8 thanks to how absolutely solid this thing feels. I'm not going try to JerryRigEverything bendgate the thing or chuck it at a wall, but I feel like the wall would sustain damage. The tolerances between display, frame, and rear panel are super tight. I honestly don't think you'd find a more well put together device without spending at least double for what this phone can be found for. Would I recommend: Probably not to be honest unless a few niche conditions are met. Lack of AOD is the most apparent deficit, a huge glaring fault imo. Software support probably limits the lifespan of the device. Something like the P8a will probably see a sale eventually knock a few bucks off its 500 dollar price and give you a superior camera and many years of support. The Moto will absolutely impress with its build, speed, and battery life though. So if you're a rare bird that doesn't care about AOD or top tier camera performance, the thing could make someone very happy for a couple years. A more direct comparison might be the $399 Samsung A35, a perfectly fine phone but an interesting comparison. The build and Snapdragon of the Motorola are leagues better than Samsungs budget line. In that regard, the ThinkPhone could be a value flagship of yesteryear if you can live with its faults.  Thinkphone vs Pixel 8 Pro max display brightness (manually set)  Anyways, this was way too many words about a phone that 14 people actually bought, but I guess that's the beauty of the Android landscape and being a huge nerd. Mental Hospitality fucked around with this message at 17:06 on May 15, 2024 |
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I spent last week in New York City and took loads of photos and videos. Videos seem to get really badly compressed when sent to friends and family over WhatsApp (and Signal, come to think of it). Instructions on how to stop that seems defunct on the most recent WhatsApp releases. Am I best just sending links to the videos from Google Photos instead?
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Huh. First time using it...DeX kinda slaps?
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My phone (a Pixel 5a 5G) died in my hand. Froze up while playing a video, although the audio continued for a few more seconds, then the screen turned off. Not responding to fingerprint sensor, power button, or even plugging in to charge (battery was above 80% when it happened). I stopped by a repair place and they believe it would have to be sent in, confirmed as unrepairable, and sent back. Problem with that is that I'm in  and Monday's a holiday here. Also the authorized repair stores are nowhere near where I work or live. Guess I better get phone hunting, fast!
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Kirios posted:Huh. I've used DeX on my tablet a bunch of times, it's the one thing I wish vanilla Android had.
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Every year: "We don't see why Sony feels the need to put a 4k display in their flagship device." This, however, was not an invite to overcorrect and put a 1080p screen in your $1600 device. They are also pulling out of the US market.
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bull3964 posted:Every year: Sony making bad marketing decisions and then pulling from a market because people didn’t buy their poorly marketed devices is extremely on brand for Sony. Sucks because I genuinely do like their hardware design aesthetic and the very light skinning they do to base Android, but they have no one to blame for their failing mobile division but themselves.
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Sony Ericsson spent approx 75% of their US marketing budget in commercials (like the one that seems to have disappeared into the abyss where they sing Close To You) to be aired exclusively in theaters around 20 years ago. To say that their marketing has been poor since is quite the understatement. I love the Xperia 1 V and I hope it lasts me a while. The fact they managed to get even better battery life (about 5 hrs more active use if GSM Arena is to be believed) in the 1 VI is impressive. Coming off my 5-year-old Pixel 3, the X1V lasts me about 4 days between charges, so I'd probably get over 5 with the new phone. You know, if it was available in the US. I think, marketing aside, Sony has had a hell of a time with US carriers. They've had a spat with T-Mobile for several years and I think it has been close to a decade since any US carrier offered Sony phones. I can't blame them for not wanting to screw with it anymore, especially when the mobile division has seen only losses for several years. Still gonna pour one out for them, though, because lack of competition is bad for all of us.
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