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Blood 2 is like bad decision concentrate, everything good about the first game is gone.
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May 15, 2024 01:03
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Not fair, Stephan Weyte reprised his role. Right? There's no way they hosed that up
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Overbite posted:I enjoyed Hexen with the rebalance patch. It makes the centaurs not as annoying. what's this?
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May 15, 2024 01:56
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Quake 4 kinda sucks, huh?
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May 15, 2024 01:58
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Quake bore
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FrumpleOrz posted:Quake 4 kinda sucks, huh? "What if we took doom 3, the game that takes a really well-loved setting and then took all the fun out of the gameplay, and then did the same thing with that game that isn't particularly well loved! And added vehicle sections!"
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May 15, 2024 02:10
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Baron von Eevl posted:"What if we took doom 3, the game that takes a really well-loved setting and then took all the fun out of the gameplay, and then did the same thing with that game that isn't particularly well loved! And added vehicle sections!" Oh god, there are vehicle sections? I think I'd rather play Mace Griffin Bounty Hunter at this point.
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May 15, 2024 02:12
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FrumpleOrz posted:Quake 4 kinda sucks, huh? Quake 4 was very mediocre but then the single player arcadey shooter genre was so dead after that we are still talking about Quake 4. Unreal 2 also sucks, and so does Pariah, but they don't have the Quake brand on them so nobody has to make excuses for their mediocrity. Edit: To post about some games from that era that I actually really like, I've been replaying Star Trek: Elite Force recently and think it might be one of the newest shooters that does not use spacebar to jump. Really surprised by the default controls being WASD for movement but X is jump, especially because it has you do a decent amount of platforming. Now I'm also thinking really hard if Elite Force 1 is a better game than Quake 4, because I enjoyed it more both at release and 20 years later, but it's clearly rougher around the edges (and a full 5 years older than Quake 4). Twerk from Home fucked around with this message at 02:55 on May 15, 2024 |
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May 15, 2024 02:15
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An Actual Princess posted:what's this? I played using an older version of this https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/106372-hexen-rebalanced-a-subtle-balance-mod-for-hexen-beta-7/ It changes quite a few things so Hexen purists might not be into it but I thought it was alright.
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May 15, 2024 02:17
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I remember moving heaven and earth to obtain a copy of Blood 2 back in the late 90's; I went through a lot to get that boxed copy.
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May 15, 2024 03:05
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:I remember moving heaven and earth to obtain a copy of Blood 2 back in the late 90's; I went through a lot to get that boxed copy. Ouch. I mean we've all done something similar. Just... nothing that bad
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May 15, 2024 03:31
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Noah Caldwell Gervais' analysis of Quake's plot is legitimately one of the favorite things on youtube. Just completely and utterly bonkers
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May 15, 2024 04:12
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Also keep in mind that while Quake 4 improves at around the 3/5ths through the game mark, its going from like a 2/5 to a 3/5 score. Its not saving the game, it just becomes what it should have been as a baseline to even reach "mediocre".
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May 15, 2024 04:19
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:I remember moving heaven and earth to obtain a copy of Blood 2 back in the late 90's; I went through a lot to get that boxed copy. a phyrric victory
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May 15, 2024 08:48
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Quake 4 is sooooo boring
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May 15, 2024 09:47
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Quake 4 was a mess shoveled out the door after a protracted and fairly ugly development process. There was supposed to be DLC that would have let them implement some of the cooler things they originally targeted but the game didn’t hit its sales target so that was cancelled. There is some justice in the universe - FEAR, released on the same day, sold twice as many copies. edit: It wasn’t just Quake 4, id’s track record between Quake III Arena and Doom 2016 was rickety as hell, including both of their collaborations with Raven Hasturtium fucked around with this message at 12:53 on May 15, 2024 |
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May 15, 2024 12:31
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I want more FEAR 1 or Trepang 2, Im not picky!
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May 15, 2024 13:01
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GOG has a sale on a few store exclusives at the moment (https://www.gog.com/en/promo/20240514_shooter_sale), including Clive Barker's Undying £1.20 Medal of Honor: Allied Assault £2 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six £2.20 The Wheel of Time £3.50
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May 15, 2024 13:17
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Be warned that this release is one of the few GOG releases that doesn't officially support modern versions of Windows after Win7. Your milage will vary.
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May 15, 2024 13:24
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quake 4 makes the mistake of making the default gameplay feel pretty bad because they know your move and jumpspeed is gonna get upgraded later. but its upgraded like 3 hours into the game. eventually it becomes a quake game but you gotta get thru a lot of weird milsim stuff and vehicle segments to get to it the art design and environmental detail is great though. i loved seeing the weird strogg infrastructure and all the incidental dialogue in the home base.
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May 15, 2024 14:07
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Quake 4 was a very mid game at release that just didn't age well. I was really into Quake 2 and the Strogg stuff at the time so it clicked for me but it's hard to recommend to anyone in 2024.
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shoeberto posted:Quake 4 was a very mid game at release that just didn't age well. I was really into Quake 2 and the Strogg stuff at the time so it clicked for me but it's hard to recommend to anyone in 2024. I’d argue that as it shipped and was released Quake II got only a slightly worse sequel than it deserved. Though the remaster and MachineGames’s levels make me think there could be life in the old franchise yet with the right developers…
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My dream idea of a New Quake would be Doom 2016 / Eternal, but it's all Lovecraftian stuff, like everything from Quake 1, but beyond the first maps of each episode. Sure, put in some tech, and I know it might ape Doom 2016's whole "we tried to harness the dark power!" stuff, but I'd love some sort of insanely creepy, yet fast and fluent, Stephen King-esque eldritch horror shooter. Also, one thing I appreciate about Quake 1, and I don't even know if it was intentional, is how the rocket launcher looks like it was designed by some science-minded scribe from maybe 800 years ago, like if Ian Abercrombie's character in Army Of Darkness got a chance to design it. Of course, I'm speaking only in terms of how it looks from your viewpoint when you're holding it. The actual item when you pick it up looks a bit more modern. I also love how there are these borderline-fantastical weapons (and ammo!) strewn throughout this hosed up nightmare landscape. "Travel onward, ranger, straight into the portal from this other-worldly hell, but do be sure to grab the box of nails and the energy cells beforehand"
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I was super intrigued by the wheel of time fps back when it came out but I never got around to playing it. It could only support 4 players multi which was a turn off
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Barudak posted:Call of the Machine fuckin rules. I already said it Im just repeating it. The one map where you start with a BFG and like fifty fodder enemies to go through fuckin rules.
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bbcisdabomb posted:The one map where you start with a BFG and like fifty fodder enemies to go through fuckin rules. Yeah that was the first time I think the q2 bfg10k really got a chance to show what it could do, the main campaign has very very few times where the BFG is more efficient damage per cell than the hyper blaster.
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Convex posted:GOG has a sale on a few store exclusives at the moment (https://www.gog.com/en/promo/20240514_shooter_sale), including Huh I thought I already owned allied assault but I do now. Thanks
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May 15, 2024 16:38
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Undying is great, absolutely pick that up if you don't already have it.
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site posted:Huh I thought I already owned allied assault but I do now. Thanks This unlocked a core memory, where I had to choose between getting MOHAA or AVP2 as my reward for getting a few good report cards in a row in school. I chose MOHAA, which is a pretty drat good game! To this day I haven’t played either of the AVP games though…maybe I should get on that soon.
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There are three - two by Rebellion, the first from ~2000 that’s gotten a re-release that fixes a game-breaking bug with the renderer on versions of DirectX past 8.1 or so, and the 2010 one, as well as the Monolith-developed AvP 2 that’s now more or less officially abandonware, which is my favorite. Cheers!
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May 15, 2024 21:21
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Kinda weird nobody's done anything with it in so long. I feel like it's got the potential for amazing MP. A squad of marines, a predator and a dozen aliens or so and just 3 way battle it out.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Kinda weird nobody's done anything with it in so long. I feel like it's got the potential for amazing MP. A squad of marines, a predator and a dozen aliens or so and just 3 way battle it out. Asymmetrical multiplayer games are hard to balance (in a very real sense you can’t please everyone) and if you gently caress it up to start with, most of your audience vanishes and never comes back. Evolve is probably the worst example of this where the game stifled under a bunch of microtransaction crap. Funny enough there was actually a Predator vs mercs in the jungle type MP game a couple years ago. It went the same way on a smaller scale. Left 4 Dead pulled it off, there’s probably more recent stuff I can’t think of.
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May 15, 2024 22:11
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Last time I tried to replay Quake 4 the lighting was broken. By which I mean, there were no shadows. Fullbright Quake 4
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May 15, 2024 22:47
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Good, shadows are for cowards
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KOGAHAZAN!! posted:Last time I tried to replay Quake 4 the lighting was broken. By which I mean, there were no shadows. Sounds better than the obnoxious dark stuff in the game proper. I don't know why I keep playing this game but I'm gonna finish it at this point. Maybe I'll actually play a good Quake game past the first stage afterward.
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skasion posted:Asymmetrical multiplayer games are hard to balance (in a very real sense you can’t please everyone) and if you gently caress it up to start with, most of your audience vanishes and never comes back. Evolve is probably the worst example of this where the game stifled under a bunch of microtransaction crap. Funny enough there was actually a Predator vs mercs in the jungle type MP game a couple years ago. It went the same way on a smaller scale. It's a pity there was no (official) Slayer v Slayer for Doom Eternal, or Slayer + Slayer vs AI demons for highest kill count, or even Demon Battle Royale
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Dead By Daylight is the reigning crown of asymmetrical multiplayer at the moment I think.
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God drat, Quake 4 really does pick up halfway through. It's still not a great game by any means but it's definitely become more exciting and interesting. It's so weird to see a Quake game trying to incorporate Half-Life stuff into it though and it doesn't work. It's the most 2005 game I've seen in ages.
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