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Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins

teen witch posted:

‘All That’ star Lori Beth Denberg says Nickelodeon’s Dan Schneider showed her porn, initiated phone sex, and lashed out on set
:smith: this was sad to read. I loved Lori Beth so much as a kid, and boy oh boy do I get the lovely power dynamics she went through.

Good, I’ve already built up Dan Schneider in my mind as a bad person, I only want to hear things about him that confirm my existing suspicions about him.

Good that it’s coming out, not good that it happened.

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I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

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teen witch posted:

‘All That’ star Lori Beth Denberg says Nickelodeon’s Dan Schneider showed her porn, initiated phone sex, and lashed out on set
:smith: this was sad to read. I loved Lori Beth so much as a kid, and boy oh boy do I get the lovely power dynamics she went through.

God DAMNIT that sucks :smith:

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

I feel bad for Lori Beth because post All That she mostly just got “disgusting fat girl” roles you’d see a lot of in the early 00’s

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
President, Founder of the Brent Spiner Fan Club
I'm really surprised to learn she was only 19 on All That. I only watched the first season, maybe, before I kind of aged out of Nickelodeon? I remember her, but I remember thinking she was a "grown up." Weird how 19 is almost synonymous with like 30 to me at whatever age I was.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Imma guess he didn't run this statement through a publicist

https://www.eonline.com/news/1401569/dan-schneider-reacts-after-all-thats-lori-beth-denberg-says-he-preyed-on-her

quote:

Denberg, 48, starred in All That from 1994 to 1998, while Schneider, 58, served as a producer on the comedy series. In Business Insider, Denberg alleged that, around her 19th birthday in 1995, Schneider showed her clips of pornography on his computer during a meeting in his office, telling the outlet, "I feel like that is the first time he preyed on me."

However, Schneider is combating those claims. "Lori Beth's accusations of me are wildly exaggerated," he told E! News in a May 14 statement, "and, in most cases, false."

"As I have previously stated, there were times, particularly in the early years of my career, that I made mistakes and exhibited poor judgment as a leader," he added. "If I did that with respect to Lori Beth, I sincerely apologize to her. But I cannot apologize for things I did not do."

"Nothing happened. Look, I already said we did wild things and I regret them but nothing happened. "

Notice how he won't say which accusations are false or embellished because it would be admitting to which one is true to very close to true.

SRQ
Nov 9, 2009

so was dirty dan really clever about doing nasty but not illegal poo poo, or does nobody give a poo poo to prosecute

The Bible
May 8, 2010

bobjr posted:

I feel bad for Lori Beth because post All That she mostly just got “disgusting fat girl” roles you’d see a lot of in the early 00’s

All Dan Schneider really did was adapt the 80's TV sitcom formula to kid's TV. Of course she got that role.

Fat people were only ever joke characters in 80's sitcoms, and go watch any of the shows he produced (or don't, they bad), it's straight up Full House/Perfect Strangers/Family Matters scenarios and jokes. Goofy but harmless main adult character, serious main adult character, kids with unrealistic levels of freedom and free time at school, a really goofy frenemy character, he didn't really do all that much.

Nickelodeon then basically paid him with child sex slaves. It's incredible he still walks free.

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Lori Beth was always my favorite of the Nick teen squad along with Kenan and Kel. I had assumed that this poo poo mostly went down after I stopped watching Nickelodeon, guess not.

The Bible
May 8, 2010

The Moon Monster posted:

Lori Beth was always my favorite of the Nick teen squad along with Kenan and Kel. I had assumed that this poo poo mostly went down after I stopped watching Nickelodeon, guess not.

I aged out of Nick just as the SNICK block started. I'm mostly familiar with stuff like Pete & Pete and Clarissa Explains it all.

Who knows what was happening with those kids. I've not heard anything, but its hard to believe it all just kicked off with one guy and everything was squeaky clean beforehand.

My only exposure to the "Character 1 & Character 2" formula has been through Quintin Reviews, and I can't watch more than a few minutes without turning them off.

Rad-daddio
Apr 25, 2017

SRQ posted:

so was dirty dan really clever about doing nasty but not illegal poo poo, or does nobody give a poo poo to prosecute

Both of these, plus the 90's thru the early 2000's you could just do poo poo worse than this and nobody cared.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Pretty sure I graduated high school around the time Ren and Simply debuted, so my memories of Nick are the early stuff like Pinwheel, Today's Special, You Can't do that on TV, Turkey Television and some Dr Who like show called Tomorrow People. The only live action show I made sure to watch was Salute Your Shorts. The rest of the stuff was way too young for me.

Nick at Nite was good because it had shows I never saw. Not all of them were good but they also had SNL re-runs which no one else was showing back then.

The Bible
May 8, 2010

SRQ posted:

so was dirty dan really clever about doing nasty but not illegal poo poo, or does nobody give a poo poo to prosecute

They paid off a ton of the actors. We will never know the horrors Ariana Grande must have witnessed.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



Bonzo posted:

Imma guess he didn't run this statement through a publicist

https://www.eonline.com/news/1401569/dan-schneider-reacts-after-all-thats-lori-beth-denberg-says-he-preyed-on-her

"Nothing happened. Look, I already said we did wild things and I regret them but nothing happened. "

Notice how he won't say which accusations are false or embellished because it would be admitting to which one is true to very close to true.

I like how he says the accusations are only false "in most cases".

Fucker can't even bring himself to claim ALL of the accusations are false.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






If you use archive.pl to read the full article even grosser stuff happened than showing her porn, and even though she was 19 it was still an enormous abuse of power dynamics by a man ten years her senior to someone who had to self-victimize to cope with the unwanted contact and attention. gently caress Dan Schneider, if half the things said about him are true it's ten times too much foranyone to walk consequence-free.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

This thread got me to read the iCarly girl's book.

Jesus christ. Why are child actors even legal?

Howard Beale
Feb 22, 2001

It's like this, Peanut
Dan Schneider had a role in the sitcom Head of the Class, where his character was often the butt of fat jokes. He knew what he was doing.

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Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

FoolyCharged posted:

This thread got me to read the iCarly girl's book.

Jesus christ. Why are child actors even legal?

That poor girl's like was gonna be messed up even if she didn't get on that show. Her mother and father...just.....Jesus.


Oh and then there's the guy she dated who thought he was Jesus.

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