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SG Bamboo posted:It certainly wasn't halped by All Japan running at the exact same time for their Champion Carnival block finals to a Korakuen crowd that looks to be at least 1100+, no doubt some of them would have gone if they weren't double booked And the huge boxing show at the Tokyo Dome. Obviously not a 1-for-1 audience, but there's definitely crossover.
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The problem last year and you could tell from the crowd they couldn't get new japan fans. I haven't watched the show yet but it is less than sakura genesis and only a 1000 up on what noah drew for the ryogoku show. But at the end of the day 4500 is what it is in the current environment. Especially in competition with ajpw who punched well above their weight in who the crowd was interested in last year. The biggest problem is the cost of running the budokan.
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Burn Down Canberra posted:The problem last year and you could tell from the crowd they couldn't get new japan fans. I haven't watched the show yet but it is less than sakura genesis and only a 1000 up on what noah drew for the ryogoku show. I also wonder if maybe they'd do better running somewhere like Osaka or Fukuoka. Because Tokyo is run into the ground. Attendances for most companies are nowhere near recovering to 2019 levels. Meanwhile these cities, big as they are, might only get one big show a year from each of the major companies. Tokyo audiences are tapped hard & the Japanese economy is in a bad place. It all adds up.
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forkboy84 posted:I also wonder if maybe they'd do better running somewhere like Osaka or Fukuoka. Because Tokyo is run into the ground. Attendances for most companies are nowhere near recovering to 2019 levels. Meanwhile these cities, big as they are, might only get one big show a year from each of the major companies. Tokyo audiences are tapped hard & the Japanese economy is in a bad place. It all adds up. It's a lot to ask fans during golden week. Njpw actually pulled off a fairly miraculous ~4300 for dontaku after running the night before and drawing 2500. It's just more of a scrap these days. Noah run a ghc hw title match at ryogoku only 3 days ago. As you pointed out there is a full house at the Tokyo dome for a boxing match. That data you shared from puwota at the end of last year has on average 21 wrestling shows a week taking place in Tokyo. So yeah another wrestling market would help I would think. I think fans in Tokyo are able to essentially be like well I don't need to go to this event. I'd rather go to the champions carnival or the bosj or whatever Burn Down Canberra fucked around with this message at 13:12 on May 6, 2024 |
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https://x.com/Hi5ame/status/1787470059046117453 Wasting little time on getting that on the board. I'm sure it'll be great, Gabe is a psycho in the best way, Kaito is amazing, excited for it.
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forkboy84 posted:https://x.com/Hi5ame/status/1787470059046117453 The thing is, it's NOAH and Kaito. I'm not sure Gabe doesn't win. Which in a sense is good and could build heat, but is also not a great thing for who should be one of their top homegrown guys.
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Gaz-L posted:The thing is, it's NOAH and Kaito. I'm not sure Gabe doesn't win. Which in a sense is good and could build heat, but is also not a great thing for who should be one of their top homegrown guys. Gabes story is that he's immature but his heart is in the right place (to njpw fans. Hes going to be horrible to noah fans) As much as njpw enjoy big brothering noah this would be sorta counter to their own booking. I assume he will have a visible chance to win and gently caress up doing something moronic.
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Gaz-L posted:The thing is, it's NOAH and Kaito. I'm not sure Gabe doesn't win. Which in a sense is good and could build heat, but is also not a great thing for who should be one of their top homegrown guys. I hate Kaito's booking too, but he's not losing on his first defence to an outsider.
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Jerusalem posted:Why Gabe isn't officially the new leader of Bullet Club I simply cannot figure out, he's amazing. I think it's because in kayfabe he's a huge emotional maniac. Besides the real money is turning him face at some point. The domestic fans read his character as mad out of love for njpw
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Chris James 2 posted:TN Revolucion (just turned 27) and Kaito Nagano (21) both announced their retirements due to injuries Yo, that loving sucks. Especially Nishikawa, he had such a high ceiling. Losing SBK, TN Revolucion & Takuma Fujiwara all in the last 12 months is some serious young guy turnover.
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Dragongate news I saw on Twitter but haven't seen the show yet: MINORITA IS BACK. And the sick little gently caress wants Gianni Valletta in his comeback match 
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As one tournament ends, so another begins. We have the Champion Carnival Finals on Sunday, but on Saturday New Japan start their Best of the Super Juniors tournament which a match with a high chance of being a banger, Akira vs Dragon Dia. And then the second match is BUSHI vs HAYATA, which might be the most cursed match a company could book in 2024. Stardom have a couple of shows that'll be live on Stardom World as they continue that brave step into the 21st century, Dragongate have some smaller shows with further fallout from the status quo changes at Dead Or Alive, with Natural Vibes down another member & with a new leader. Other than that, it's honestly a week I need to try and actually catch up on non-AJPW companies. 11/5/2023, Saturday 1pm JST/3pm AEDT/5am BST/12am EDT/9pm PDT Stardom GoldenWeek Fight Tour in Chiba TKP Garden City, Chiba Cosmic Angels (Aya Sakura & Sayaka Kurara) vs Empress Nexus Venus (Maika & Mina Shirakwa) Ranna Yagami vs Rian vs Waka Tsukiyama Queen's Quest (AZM, Lady C, Miyu Amasaki & Saya Kamitani) vs STARS (Hazuki, Koguma, Momo Kohgo & Saya Iida) Crazy Star (Mei Seira & Suzu Suzuki) vs Empress Nexus Venus (HANAKO & Xena) vs Oedo Tai (Momo Watanabe & Rina) Cosmic Angels (Natsupoi, Saori Anou, Tam Nakano & Yuna Mizumori) vs God's Eye (Ami Sourei, Konami, Saki Kashima & Syuri) Oedo Tai (Fukigen Death, Natsuko Tora & Thekla) vs STARS (Hanan & Mayu Iwatani) & Starlight Kid Live on Stardom World 4pm JST/6pm AEDT/8am BST/3am EDT/12am PDT New Japan Best of the Super Juniors 31 Night 1 YohaS Arena, Chiba BOSJ B Block: Dragon Dia vs Francesco Akira BOSJ A Block: BUSHI vs HAYATA BOSJ B Block: Ninja Mack vs Robbie Eagles BOSJ A Block: Kosei Fujita vs Yoshinobu Kanemaru BOSJ B Block: Drilla Moloney vs SHO BOSJ A Block: Blake Christian vs Clark Connors BOSJ B Block: DOUKI vs Taiji Ishimori BOSJ A Block: Kevin Knight vs TJP BOSJ B Block: Hiromu Takahashi vs KUSHIDA BOSJ A Block: El Desperado vs Titán Live on NJPW World 5pm JST/7pm AEDT/9am BST/4am EDT/1am PDT DDT King of DDT 2nd Round Radiant Hall, Yokohama Akito & Yuki Iino vs Damnation TA (KANON & MJ Paul) vs Kazuki Hirata & Soma Takao 37KAMIINA (Shunma Katsumata & Yuki Ueno) vs Keigo Nakamura & Yukio Naya Danshoku Dieno, HARASHIMA & Poison Sawada JULIE vs Kazuma Sumi, Takeshi Masada & Yuya Koroku King of DDT 2nd Round: MAO vs To-y King of DDT 2nd Round: Daisuke Sasaki vs Sanshiro Takagi King of DDT 2nd Round: Kazusada Higuchi vs Shuji Ishikawa King of DDT 2nd Round: Chris Brookes vs Tetsuya Endo Live on Wrestle Universe Tokyo Joshi Pro Live Tour Spring Night 6 Azalea Taisho Hall, Osaka Chika Nanase vs Mahiro Kiryu Rika Tatsumi vs Shino Suzuki Toga vs Yuki Aino Pom Harajuku & Raku v Uta Takami & Yuki Kamifuku Haru Kazashiro, Maki Itoh & Runa Okubo vs HIMAWARI, Shoko Nakajima & Wakana Uehara Arisu Endo, Miu Watanabe & Suzume vs Kaya Toribami, Mizuki & Moka Miyamoto Uploaded later to Wrestle Universe 6pm JST/8pm AEDT/10am BST/5am EDT/2am PDT Dragongate Hopeful Gate Night 2 EDION Arena #2, Osaka Ben-K vs BIG BOSS Shimizu D'courage (Madoka Kikuta & Ryoya Tanaka) vs Masaaki Mochizuki & Ryu Fuda Genki Horiguchi vs Takashi Yoshida Dragon Kid, Naruki Doi, Susumu Yokosuka & YAMATO vs Z-Brats (ISHIN, Jason Lee, KAI & Shun Skywalker) Aagan Iisou (Shuji Kondo & Toru Owashi) vs Don Fujii & Ultimo Dragon Big Hug (Hyo, Jacky Kamei & Luis Mante) vs Natural Vibes (Kzy, Strong Machine J & U-T) Live on Dragongate Network Also shows from Ice Ribbon, Osaka Pro, KOBE Meriken, BASARA & Hot Chouchou. 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Burn Down Canberra posted:They deleted because they think they got something lost in translation. Here is the new tweet My WOL prediction comes true two years too late 
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fez_machine posted:Noah doing the job for an older promotion Well that makes what's going on with Takeshita interesting.
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fez_machine posted:Noah doing the job for an older promotion That's certainly what the New President of Cyberfight said. No idea what that means. There are connections already in place with WWE airing it's shows in Japan on Abema as well as the Nakamura/Muto match last year. Stall_19 fucked around with this message at 05:52 on May 16, 2024 |
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Eita in NOAH has been such a waste. We lost out on a big babyface Eita run for this. At least DG goes from strength to strength.
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forkboy84 posted:Eita in NOAH has been such a waste. We lost out on a big babyface Eita run for this. At least DG goes from strength to strength. Yeah well it looks like this is what he wants, anyway. Sad but true. I haven't been up-to-date with NOAH. Last I checked, Kaito had a big blowoff match with Kenoh, and now they've teamed up and made a new stable together. What happened? Also, why did Kaito and Oiwa split up? Was it violent at least?
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