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I imagine it’s due to the volume requirements of artillery. If you’re making a million dollar missile to go on a jet where every percentage difference of weight and performance matters, then you get to crack out the fancy stuff. If you want to get as many booms as possible for as little money as possible, you go for explosives you go for something that has a core competent that you just grow on a farm.
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May 16, 2024 03:26
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Hannibal Rex posted:Nothing will ever beat using My Generation in an ad for life insurance. Both a cruise line and a bank have done ads using Lust for Life, a song about being strung out on heroin and debauchery.
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May 16, 2024 03:28
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Charliegrs posted:Doesn't a major component in western artillery rounds come from China? I can't remember what it is I think something to do with cotton. I find that completely insane. First of all I'm surprised that Putin hasn't convinced Xi to stop selling it to Western countries. And like what if the US goes to war with China someday? Surely then we would be cut off. Although I'm not sure how much of a role artillery would play in a war like that. Still it's absolute madness that we allow an enemy state to be our supplier for a critical military component. China is a war profiteer, they're happy to sell all the cotton they can. I don't think Putin could convince them to sell us less stuff lol.
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May 16, 2024 06:28
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Deltasquid posted:Yes, cotton-based cellulose, but I think it's a risk for Europe rather than the USA. But they're well aware of the dependency and rotating away from China as a supplier, and trying to create a wood-based alternative: https://www.politico.eu/article/saab-ceo-warns-against-reliance-china-make-weapons-europe/ NB it's not 'trying to create' in the sense of having to invent new technology, it's all well understood and tried. Our forest industry can make it like any other pulp products, and they are quite keen to receive orders because of current production overcapacity in some areas.
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May 16, 2024 08:11
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WSJ reports that Russia has been looking into anti-satellite weapons: Russia Launched Research Spacecraft for Antisatellite Nuclear Weapon Two Years Ago, U.S. Officials Say This seems... not great
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May 16, 2024 20:25
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jaete posted:WSJ reports that Russia has been looking into anti-satellite weapons: Russia Launched Research Spacecraft for Antisatellite Nuclear Weapon Two Years Ago, U.S. Officials Say The Clanciest of chats. If the russia does anything with nukes on the ground, it'll escalate support for Ukraine, possibly to no-fly zone levels (but that's another conversation). If they use a nuke in space, it's globalthermonuclear war territory. Or at least declared war--a nuke will not discriminate what satellites it takes out, and that's a direct attack on American and European infrastructure. Reprisal will be guaranteed and harsh. So yeah, I wouldn't worry about antisat nukes. Bigger concern are terrestrial-based jammers.
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May 16, 2024 20:30
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If Russia figures out how to jam satellite signal over Ukraine/Russia instead of destroying them, nothing's going to happen. Nobody's going to go to war with Russia over that poo poo.
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May 16, 2024 21:07
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jaete posted:WSJ reports that Russia has been looking into anti-satellite weapons: Russia Launched Research Spacecraft for Antisatellite Nuclear Weapon Two Years Ago, U.S. Officials Say
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May 16, 2024 21:30
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Nitrox posted:If Russia figures out how to jam satellite signal over Ukraine/Russia instead of destroying them, nothing's going to happen. Nobody's going to go to war with Russia over that poo poo. Right, which is why they're a bigger concern--it's actually being actively used to greater or lesser effect. Real threat will always beat a theoretical.
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May 16, 2024 22:02
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OAquinas posted:The Clanciest of chats. Antisat nukes just sounds to me like dick wagging and saber rattling to make big news with scary words. If they wanted to start bonking satellites and loving with other countries I can't imagine why they would use hilariously indiscriminate nuclear payloads over just having a kinetic strike. A satellite isn't going anywhere or dodging anything. poo poo a bunch of them are geostationary! They go nowhere, at all, by design!
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May 16, 2024 22:21
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The Russian winter offensive has continued through spring and it looks like it will not stop at any point during the summer. With half a million men along the front line, this may be the beginning of the end for the Ukrainians. Putin has made it clear that he intends to make Russia bleed as much as necessary to win this war, and the Russian people appear to be going along with it just fine. With Trump almost certainly winning 2024, many people sneering at the start might have a lot of egg on their face. "The outlook for Ukraine is bleak" quote:Over the past few days, Russian troops crossed the Ukrainian border, occupying a number of villages. Ukraine has spent several months fortifying Kharkiv, but storming the city is not how Russia intends to fight. The Russian target this summer is the Ukrainian army, and against this target it has started to compound its advantages. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 17, 2024 01:54
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bird food bathtub posted:Antisat nukes just sounds to me like dick wagging and saber rattling to make big news with scary words. If they wanted to start bonking satellites and loving with other countries I can't imagine why they would use hilariously indiscriminate nuclear payloads over just having a kinetic strike. A satellite isn't going anywhere or dodging anything. poo poo a bunch of them are geostationary! They go nowhere, at all, by design! Ehhhh Kinetic kill vehicles are tricky to fire and hit, especially if you wanted to shoot a bunch of satellites. Plus they form a shrapnel belt that makes space rather dangerous (more than usual) to send your own satellites and people up. A nuke kill would just fry the electronics, leaving the intact satellite in orbit (until it decays). Much cleaner, though it still makes things inhospitable for a while due to radiation. Plus I'm gonna quibble with you on geostationary. They move! They're constantly falling out of the sky...they just move laterally fast enough to keep missing the ground and maintain their relative altitude. LEO satellites move much faster (relative to the ground) and while they can't exactly dodge it's still a high velocity encounter that requires precise timing with the kill vehicle. Basically, mass satellite kills are equivalent to hanging a sign on the atmosphere saying "space is closed" for a few years. That said, I agree with you that it's just empty sabre rattling and dick swinging for the TV presenters to crow about.
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May 17, 2024 01:56
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NATO may be sending trainers into Ukraine. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/16/us/politics/nato-ukraine.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
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May 17, 2024 02:27
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MikeC posted:The Russian winter offensive has continued through spring and it looks like it will not stop at any point during the summer. With half a million men along the front line, this may be the beginning of the end for the Ukrainians. Putin has made it clear that he intends to make Russia bleed as much as necessary to win this war, and the Russian people appear to be going along with it just fine. With Trump almost certainly winning 2024, many people sneering at the start might have a lot of egg on their face. Not sure on what basis you think Trump will win. That’s far from decided right now and the polls are misleading. I’m not saying Biden is guaranteed to win but it’s far from guaranteed that Trump will either.
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May 17, 2024 02:53
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Bar Ran Dun posted:NATO may be sending trainers into Ukraine. I'd rate the odds of this both happening and being a NATO effort rather than the act of a standalone sovereign nation (or a few) as rather low. The article highlights a lot of the reasons why NATO is highly unlikely to authorize such an official NATO mission.
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May 17, 2024 02:59
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Kraftwerk posted:Not sure on what basis you think Trump will win. That’s far from decided right now and the polls are misleading. I’m not saying Biden is guaranteed to win but it’s far from guaranteed that Trump will either. I think Trump stands a good chance of winning but I don't think he'll necessarily support Ukraine any less than Biden has, especially if he tries to make a bigly bargain with Putin and gets rejected. Trump winning might even produce a better outcome for Ukraine: Putin could be willing to make significant concessions (probably not Crimea, but a genuine long term end to the war) if the alternative is pissing Trump off and locking in bipartisan US support for Ukraine forever. It's pointless to presume with certainty what Trump will do, not even Trump knows
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May 17, 2024 03:28
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MikeC posted:this may be the beginning of the end for the Ukrainians... many people sneering at the start might have a lot of egg on their face. What do you mean by sneering, and don't you think it is in bad taste to editorialize with such dramatic language? Of course there's still many questionable things of substance, like how simply outnumbering your opponent in pure manpower doesn't gaurantee victory, but does gaurantee a high cost. But it's hard to discuss that substance past the veneer.
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May 17, 2024 03:28
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MikeC posted:The Russian winter offensive has continued through spring and it looks like it will not stop at any point during the summer. With half a million men along the front line, this may be the beginning of the end for the Ukrainians. Putin has made it clear that he intends to make Russia bleed as much as necessary to win this war, and the Russian people appear to be going along with it just fine. With Trump almost certainly winning 2024, many people sneering at the start might have a lot of egg on their face. "people sneering at the start"? what are you talking about? you mean the first weeks of the war when kyiv was surrounded on three sides and the optimistic line was that the insurgency would make the occupation/puppet government untenable? all the "sneering" celebratory posts about the first land war in europe in three generations because people were sure the ukrainians were going to win? i find the thread's tendency to extreme optimism grating, but imagine getting so invested in a posting beef that seeing daily casualties reaching new highs is a clear opportunity to get one up on your posting enemies
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May 17, 2024 04:27
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Bar Ran Dun posted:NATO may be sending trainers into Ukraine. there have been indications for a while now that the brits have special forces on the ground in an advising/training role without fundamentally changing the conflict. even if there was a larger western presence on the ground, i'm not sure how large it would have to get before it becomes a significant factor in the war
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May 17, 2024 04:35
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OAquinas posted:Ehhhh Uh.. Geostationary orbit is about 35,000 km out. The exosphere starts at 600 km and ends at (depending who you ask) 10,000 km. Not sure what exactly is going to be radioactive here, aside from the debris. Given that space is Empty, and the energy released in a nuclear explosion will go in every direction, it's pretty unlikely that you'd get any other satellites, or that you'd leave an area contaminated? Kessler syndrome isn't great but at that distance it's much, much less worrying.
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May 17, 2024 04:41
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MikeC posted:The Russian winter offensive has continued through spring and it looks like it will not stop at any point during the summer. With half a million men along the front line, this may be the beginning of the end for the Ukrainians. Putin has made it clear that he intends to make Russia bleed as much as necessary to win this war, and the Russian people appear to be going along with it just fine. With Trump almost certainly winning 2024, many people sneering at the start might have a lot of egg on their face. That's not what I gathered from the article, if anything yes they'll be able push further into Ukraine but as far as I can tell it's not like they're going have their armed forces completely destroyed and surrender. And Trump is absolutely not certainly winning 2024. If you look at it dry as possible they are basically both tied in polls and betting markets.
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May 17, 2024 05:42
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MikeC posted:The Russian winter offensive has continued through spring and it looks like it will not stop at any point during the summer. With half a million men along the front line, this may be the beginning of the end for the Ukrainians. Putin has made it clear that he intends to make Russia bleed as much as necessary to win this war, and the Russian people appear to be going along with it just fine. With Trump almost certainly winning 2024, many people sneering at the start might have a lot of egg on their face. Ah yes and the most important thing is that you will have been right and everyone else wrong, and everyone will have to apologize for ever having doubted you. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 17, 2024 05:53
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Flavahbeast posted:I think Trump stands a good chance of winning but I don't think he'll necessarily support Ukraine any less than Biden has, especially if he tries to make a bigly bargain with Putin and gets rejected. This is utterly wrong. Trump will cut all support to Ukraine AND NATO and tell Ukraine to surrender. Trump will not listen to anyone except Putin who he follows slavishly.
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May 17, 2024 05:55
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Comstar posted:This is utterly wrong. Trump will cut all support to Ukraine AND NATO and tell Ukraine to surrender. This is utterly wrong. Trump will not listen to anyone but Trump who he follows slavishly. Seriously, Putin can absolutely gently caress it up if his ego is too big and pisses off Trump. Trump does not care about anyone but himself, doesn't want to share the spotlight with anyone at all.
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May 17, 2024 06:01
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MikeC posted:With Trump almost certainly winning 2024, many people sneering at the start might have a lot of egg on their face. How much egg are we talking, here? Will it be more than the amount of cum in your pants? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 17, 2024 06:15
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MikeC posted:The Russian winter offensive has continued through spring and it looks like it will not stop at any point during the summer. With half a million men along the front line, this may be the beginning of the end for the Ukrainians. Putin has made it clear that he intends to make Russia bleed as much as necessary to win this war, and the Russian people appear to be going along with it just fine. With Trump almost certainly winning 2024, many people sneering at the start might have a lot of egg on their face. This is over the top, even for you, and the sheer glee of the last sentence is disgusting. You're usually better at covering up, but the mask slipped here. Freudian slippers fucked around with this message at 07:37 on May 17, 2024 |
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May 17, 2024 07:35
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Freudian slippers posted:This is over the top, even for you, and the sheer glee of the last sentence is disgusting. You're usually better at covering up, but the mask slipped here. The mask has slipped a few times on MikeC in these threads. I thought it was obvious he's a pro Putin/Russia troll at this point?
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May 17, 2024 08:48
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:The mask has slipped a few times on MikeC in these threads. everyone in D&D is posting in good faith and to suggest otherwise is an offense
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May 17, 2024 08:50
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Freudian slippers posted:This is over the top, even for you, and the sheer glee of the last sentence is disgusting. You're usually better at covering up, but the mask slipped here. He had a mask?  Some people can be talked to, for everything else there is the Ignore Button.
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May 17, 2024 08:50
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:The mask has slipped a few times on MikeC in these threads. Time will tell 👀 I think he's just salty that we didn't go along with his Mearsheimer Realism.
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May 17, 2024 08:51
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MikeC posted:With Trump almost certainly winning 2024, many people sneering at the start might have a lot of egg on their face.] Trump won in 2016 by extremely thin margins and lost the popular vote. Biden isn't shoo in but Trump is working at an extreme disadvantage.
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May 17, 2024 09:52
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Flavahbeast posted:Trump winning might even produce a better outcome for Ukraine: Putin could be willing to make significant concessions (probably not Crimea, but a genuine long term end to the war) if the alternative is pissing Trump off and locking in bipartisan US support for Ukraine forever. It's pointless to presume with certainty what Trump will do, not even Trump knows Didn't he already said that he doesn't give a flying gently caress for Eastern Europe and if it isn't able to defend itself, it isn't his problem?
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May 17, 2024 11:56
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Instead of kinetic energy weapons to obliterate satellites has there ever been studies into nudging them out of orbit
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May 17, 2024 12:45
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Scratch Monkey posted:Instead of kinetic energy weapons to obliterate satellites has there ever been studies into nudging them out of orbit There have at least been studies about extending lifetime of satellites by having a separate thing grab them and move them. Now it's not quite the same thing since in the hostile case the target may resist,.but there is some overlap...
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May 17, 2024 12:49
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OddObserver posted:There have at least been studies about extending lifetime of satellites by having a separate thing grab them and move them. Now it's not quite the same thing since in the hostile case the target may resist,.but there is some overlap... New space company seeks to solve orbital mobility with high delta-v spacecraft
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May 17, 2024 13:09
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Flavahbeast posted:I think Trump stands a good chance of winning but I don't think he'll necessarily support Ukraine any less than Biden has, especially if he tries to make a bigly bargain with Putin and gets rejected. Trump winning might even produce a better outcome for Ukraine: Putin could be willing to make significant concessions (probably not Crimea, but a genuine long term end to the war) if the alternative is pissing Trump off and locking in bipartisan US support for Ukraine forever. It's pointless to presume with certainty what Trump will do, not even Trump knows Given how world events are- Trump believes Putin’s lies about the homonazis in Ukraine and triples down on Ukrainian support with the carrier group in the Black Sea. “There are good people on both sides.”
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May 17, 2024 13:15
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Trump believes whatever he heard last and sounds good to him. It will probably not be a good thing for Ukraine if he is in office, but that also does not directly lead to a Russian victory. If conservatives (people in his cabinet) can somewhow convince him that he will profit or look good by supporting Ukraine, there is a strong possibility US support will not waiver.
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May 17, 2024 13:25
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DTurtle posted:There's a new company that is developing a spacecraft that is focused on delivering exactly that kind of thing:
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May 17, 2024 13:32
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Dick Ripple posted:Trump believes whatever he heard last and sounds good to him. It will probably not be a good thing for Ukraine if he is in office, but that also does not directly lead to a Russian victory. If conservatives (people in his cabinet) can somewhow convince him that he will profit or look good by supporting Ukraine, there is a strong possibility US support will not waiver. On the other hand, he sided with Putin over FBI in the Helsinki summit. There is something super weird about his attitude towards him
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May 17, 2024 17:19
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Just Another Lurker posted:He had a mask? Regrettably, it is not legal to use the ignore button as you will be told you need to reply to them if they ‘bring up points’ to your posts.
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