Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon
BeerSheets

Brownhat posted:

No one deserves to win in a week 17 league.



Welcome back Fantasy Sports Fans, it's 2019. It's officially time to be wrong 40% of the time at best get ready for some fake football!


Free League Hosting Services
  • ESPN: ESPN is stable and reliable system that's fairly powerful. It's the one I personally use and have no complaints.
  • CBS: The grandaddy. There are both free and premium subscriptions.
  • Yahoo: Yahoo has a somewhat clunky interface and terrible “experts” but it’s free and not terribly hard to use.
  • NFL.com: Flashy interface and integrated video, the NFL seems to be sinking some money into the site. The draft interface is unfortunate.
  • Fleaflicker: It’s a free site and very highly reviewed. The interface is spartan and information-driven and league customization options are deep.
Premium League Hosting Services
  • My Fantasy League: Allows the greatest range of league customization options (both the league web site and rules). Winner of multiple FSTA League Manager Product awards. Fantastic for dynasty, and well worth the $60 it costs to run a league each year.
Useful Free Resources
  • Football Absurdity is a Goon-run football/comedy website that also happens to host lovely fantasy football cheat sheets.
  • NBC Rotoworld: THE source for examining specific players and getting news on them. I don't even bother using their on-site search engine; just Google "Rotoworld (Player Name)" and it'll pop right up.
  • Football Guys: Has a free daily newsletter that I consider mandatory. It provides you with updates and alerts about players. They also have a really nice amount of content should you subscribe.
  • FantasyFootballCalculator: The current standard for mock drafting. It's a good place to find other people and get some experience with the pace of drafting. Another new mock draft site that's generating some buzz is SnapDraft. I haven't had a chance to use it myself.
  • FantasyPros: An immensely helpful aggregrator, taking data from all sorts of sources and providing a consensus of their thoughts. Personally I think this is the best method for looking at projections and predictions, as to be honest at best people will be around 60% correct. They also have a free weekly cheat sheet where you can input your team and get back projections; if you have multiple teams it's worth dropping the cash for the premium edition.
  • Reddit Fantasy Football: They're very active and frequently post new information and articles. Probably one of the easiest ways to pick up new info, and the community is well moderated.
  • Pro Football Reference: More statistics than is probably healthy for any particular person. If you're at the point in your fantasy football progression where you're consulting sites like this for information then congratulations, you're one of us.
  • Gridiron Experts: Previously a free site, they've decided to go for a free model this year.
Useful Premium Resources
  • Rotopass: A group rate for multiple sites; Footballguys, Rotowire, ESPN Insider, RosterWatch, RotoViz, Fantasy Insiders, and $10 credit to FanDuel and DRAFT.
  • The Fantasy Footballers: Three guys with a great podcast and an extremely comprehensive draft guide.
  • 4For4: Known for their accuracy, and one of the premium services I subscribe to.
  • Rotoviz: Premium article-heavy site full of interesting analysis and data driven projections. One of my favorites.
  • Dynasty League Football: This site offers advice specific to dynasty leagues. I consider this a mandatory subscription unless you're in my dynasty league.
  • Pro Football Focus: Additional projections and fantasy news.
  • FantasyPros: The standard for fantasy data aggregation, and you can pay for access to a roster management and mock draft package called My Playbook that is very helpful.
Useful League Resources
  • Clicky Draft: Online free draft board. I used this last year in my family league to put the board on our flat screen.
ADP, Rankings and Projections

Spoeank posted:

Here's an updated twitter list for fantasy:

Twitter
Real NFL Guys
@AlbertBreer
@gregcosell
@mortreport
@AdamSchefter

Football Guys
@Sigmundbloom Produces the excellent "Audible" podcast. My favorite follow.
@MattWaldman Writes the Rookie Scouting Portfolio. I'm not sure he sleeps.
@JeneBramel MD and Football Guy, excellent for injury updates on gameday morning and IDP advice

The Fantasy Footballers - some people don't like them (too much fluff) but they are insanely accurate
@JasonFFL
@AndyHolloway
@ffhitman

CBS Sports
@DaveRichard - might be the nicest guy in fantasy
@JameyEisenberg - doesn't sleep
@HeathCummingssr - contrarian takes
@CTowersCBS - mix baseball/football
@AdamAizer - Trash takes

ESPN
@MikeClayNFL - The only one worth your time on their godawful analysis network
@StephaniaESPN - ok, Stephanie Bell is good, too.

NFL
@ChrisWesseling - Former Rotoworld writer, great real life football knowledge
@GreggRosenthal - Same
@AdamRank - Fantasy Analyst

Rotoworld
@LordReebs
@JoshNorris
@EvanSilva - The GOAT
@RotoPat - The guy who writes the funny Rotoworld blurbs

Yahoo!
@scott_pianowski
@AndyBehrens - boring
@LizLoza_FF
@MattHarmon_BYB - The Reception Perception guy.
@YahooNoise - Accurate/ballsy, but can take over a twitter feed

Misc. Writers/PFF Guys
@friscojosh - The Airyards Guy. Kind of an rear end in a top hat but has great WR insight
@CDCarter13 - FF #taeks and owning the ilbs
@LateRoundQB - JJ Zachariason, Editor-in-Chief at Fanduel & Numberfire
@ChrisRaybon - DFS Expert, but gives some good insight
@ScottBarrettDFB - Head PFF Fantasy Analyst, extraordinarily good info
@MikeTagliereNFL - lead NFL Writer, Fantasypros
@Allinkid - Lead Writer, The Athletic Fantasy
@4for4_John - from 4for4, most accurate guy the last couple years
@TJHernandez - DFS Director, 4for4

@HarrisFootball - lol gently caress this guy


If I forgot anyone lemme know and I will edit them in so Beer can just C&P this

Varg posted:

Footballguys just emailed out an entire list of who to follow on twitter for every team's fantasy purposes.. I might actually pay attention to twitter now. I put it into an excel file in case anyone who's not subscribed to their mailings is interested. BeerGod feel free to add this to the OP too if you want

https://www.dropbox.com/s/e2td2v607i1oexx/fantasy-football-twitter.xls?dl=0

Podcasts
  • The Fantasy Footballers: Has basically become the default fantasy football podcast, featuring three guys who are full time fantasy nuts. Decent balance of humor and conversation, although personally I find them somewhat repetitive.
  • The Audible: Footballguys has a regular podcast that combines a healthy amount of insight, injury help with Dr. Jene Bramel, and they're very football-focused if you prefer that to other podcasts that have gimmicks or gags.
  • CBS Fantasy Football Today: Another high tier podcast that balances humor and insight, with multiple perspectives and a decent amount of access thanks to their CBS affiliation.
  • 4For4 Most Accurate Podcast: John Paulsen has repeatedly won awards for accuracy, and he provides a ton of information in a condensed amount of time. The mood is light and never boring, and at only 30 minutes per episode it's short and to the point.
  • Around The NFL: Although not technically a fantasy-specific podcast, they have a lot of useful information and provide a pretty cool insight into the workings of NFL media. They also seem to get a ton of really cool guests and the conversation is surprisingly candid. This has become my favorite podcast.


Introduction
Fantasy Football is the ancient art of nerds pouring over statistics in the hopes of predicting how infinitely more athletic and successful men will perform over the course of a professional football game. In recent history it has become a billion dollar industry while infusing itself into the collective psyche of the NFL. Countless podcasts, articles, websites, and every other source under the sun have sprung up in support of what is essentially glorified socialized gambling. There's even a television show about a league. Fantasy Football is basically Dungeons & Dragons for jocks football fans. You assemble a roster of individual players from across the National Football League, and then each week the individual performance of the player is tracked and scored. Positive actions like passing, catching, scoring touchdowns, or making field goals give you points. In some leagues negative actions like fumbles, interceptions, or missing a field goal can take away points. At the end of each Monday Night Football game your total score is added up to determine how well you did that week. In many leagues you are pitted against another team for a head-to-head match that determines a winner and a loser. At the end of the season the teams with the most wins will participate in a playoff tournament. The winner of the playoffs will be the champion.

The leagues themselves vary from friendly to insane, including at least one where the loser gets a tattoo chosen by the winner. Other leagues have pots worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, or byzantine rules about relegation, delegation, salary caps, and every other statistic under the sun. We are collectively insane, and we can't get enough. Fantasy Football itself is a lot of fun. Not only do you get to make a game out of watching football, but it also forces you to learn about the sport as a whole. I would never have known (or cared) that last year Darren McFadden was struggling with the Raider's transition from a power blocking scheme to a zone block until he became my first round draft pick and started costing me games. It makes you a better fan when you know all the players on the field. Dirt Worshipper said it best:

Dirt Worshipper posted:

Before I played fantasy I despised it. We all know the obnoxious guy at the sports bar in the Brady jersey, running in between TV’s screaming ”Throw Jennings the ball!”. They disagree fundamentally with the lessons our fathers taught us about football: You root for your home team, through good years and bad. The bad years are meant to be borne with grim fidelity, the good years are our reward. Fantasy was just wrong.
But then I tried it. I joined a work league and had a blast. Rooting for your “real” football team and your fantasy one are not (usually) mutually exclusive. You need not become that guy. Fantasy has not made me a worse fan. On the contrary, my knowledge of the entire league has grown. I’m able to really enjoy more than one game every Sunday. If you love football, give fantasy a try.

The Basics
A league consists of several owners (typically 12), one of whom is the commissioner who manages the league. At the beginning of the season each owner drafts a roster of players. Rosters are typically fifteen players and consist of starters and a bench of reserve players to replace starters who are injured or on bye weeks. A typical starting lineup that will mirror NFL positions and consist of 1 Quarterback (QB), 2 Running Backs (RB), 3 Wide Receivers (WR), 1 Tight End (TE), a Place Kicker (PK), and a Team Defense/Special Teams (DST).

Each week your players will score points for your team according to their performance. Scoring can be very simple or incredibly complicated depending on the league, but many leagues use a standard scoring system where passing provides 1 point per 25 yards, 4 points per passing touchdown, and -1 point per interception and receiving and rushing gain 1 point per 10 yards, 6 points per receiving/rushing touchdown. Field goals are typically worth 3 points, and team defense scoring depends on a number of factors including sacks, interceptions, points allowed, defensive touchdowns, etc. Many leagues will use different scoring systems depending on the preferences of the players. One significant difference is PPR, or Points Per Reception, where wide receiver are awarded a set number of points (typically 0.5 or 1) for every reception.

The league season will go for a set number of weeks during the regular NFL season. Typically the last two to four weeks of the regular season are reserved for the playoffs, and most leagues end on the sixteenth week because many NFL teams will sit their star players in Week 17 if the outcome doesn't matter.

Variations
There are many roster variations that different leagues will use. Many leagues use a flex position where different positions can fit into a slot. The most common form of flex position replaces the third WR position in the standard lineup above with a WR/RB/TE flex position. That means that any Wide Receiver, Running Back, or Tight End player could be used in that slot. Leagues where that flex position allows a QB are typically called "2 QB leagues" because quarterbacks typically score far more points that other players. Other leagues utilize IDP or Individual Defensive Players instead of Team Defenses. IDP players score points for tackles, sacks, interceptions, touchdowns, etc. Many leagues are several years old and include rules to provide continuity between seasons. In contrast to a redraft league where every player is drafted at the start of each season some leagues use keepers where team owners are allowed to keep a set number of players per year. Other leagues are dynasty leagues where the entire roster is kept from year to year. Typically dynasty leagues use much deeper benches and include a rookie draft.

The Draft
Every league starts with a draft, where team owner pick their players. There are two major types of draft; the snake draft and the auction draft. A snake draft is where every owner receives a draft position and then picks a player in order for a number of rounds equal to the roster size. It's called a snake draft because the order "snakes" back and forth each round. In other words the owner who picked last in the first round will pick first in the second. Auction drafts are where each team owner has a set budget and they bid for each player until everyone's roster has been filled. There are numerous drafting strategies out there, but ultimately the goal of any draft is to get the maximum amount of value for your players.

Trades and the Waiver Wire
While drafting is essential, the most successful teams typically win by taking advantage of the waiver wire and trades. Trading is precisely what it sounds like; players offer each other trades that are accepted or rejected. Many leagues incorporate an approval process to prevent collusion where two players will deliberately stack one team and then split the winnings; there is no universe where Adrian Peterson is worth Mark Sanchez. Depending on the league trading may either be nonexistent or commonplace. Many leagues will end trading several weeks before the playoffs begin.

The NFL has hundreds of players and most of them will not be on a team roster. As players are injured or fall out of favor team owners will be forced to pick up free agents to replace them. To do this they use the waiver wire. Each week individual players are locked the moment their team starts their game. For the duration of this "waiver period" owners who wish to claim a free agent submit a "waiver claim." Owners who wish to make more than one waiver claim must indicate the priority of their claims. At the end of the waiver period (typically a day or two after the beginning of the new week) the league software checks the standings of the teams. Going in reverse order (worst standing to highest) the teams get their highest priority claim. If multiple teams have submitted waiver claims for the same player it will go the team with the lowest standing, and the other teams will get their lower priority claims. After the waiver period has ended every player is available to be claimed immediately. The waiver wire is extremely important. Alfred Morris, the 5th ranked running back of 2012, was a free agent in most leagues until the first week. Many owners use the waiver wire to "stream" defenses and other players based on that week's match.


Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Every year I put together a list of general suggestions for draft strategies, and the community provided some wonderful insight and updates. Now that the NFL draft is over and fantasy football season has started I thought it would be appropriate to revisit those ideas and put together some new thoughts and suggestions. Consider this a living document, and let me know what you think!

Draft strategies are curious things, a strange combination of prognostication and historical analysis. The fact that we're even discussing this right now is indicative of our collective madness. But every year we see the same questions. When should I draft a QB? Should I go RB-RB-RB or WR-RB-WR? Should I get a TE early or wait until the end? I'm in a 2QB/4WR/1RB/FLX/2DST 19 man league with 3.14 PPR and TEs get +1 PPR on Thursday games against teams with blue pants, when should I draft a kicker?

The answer to all these questions is the same: It Depends On The Circumstances.

When you draft a player, you're making a statement. You're telling the world "At this moment I think this guy is the best player available for my team." In order to make that statement you have to have more than a positional strategy, you need to take a holistic approach. You need to take into consideration the needs of your team, the risk of that player under-performing his draft position, the opportunity cost of drafting that player, bye weeks, and a myriad of other factors. Relying on a simple positional strategy omits all of that. Same with relying on a raw value based drafting approach, using rankings, or any other single method. The best drafts combine strategies and consider the whole picture.

  1. Know thy league. If your league uses PPR and your cheat sheet is for standard scoring you're putting yourself at a disadvantage. Know your roster requirements, number of teams, starting lineups, and all of your scoring rules. Things like 2QB, keepers, superflex (which is a nice way of saying 2QB with the option to fail), big play scoring, and six point passing touchdowns can dramatically alter how you draft. You should also know your opponents and their tendencies. Is one player a massive homer? Consider how that will affect his draft strategy. Does your league tend to draft QBs super early? Exploit that by picking up valuable skill positions and going with a streaming QB approach. This also applies to whatever sources your opponents use to draft, such as the default rankings.
  2. The level of risk you are willing to take should correlate with the round of the draft. Your early picks are not for flyers, they're for reliable sources of points that can form the core of your team. I've come to be very risk averse in my early picks, mostly because of the damage done by drafting guys like Darren McFadden or Toby Gerhart. Look at the history of your player and any disruptive factors (age, usage, coaching change, team change) that could increase the uncertainty of the prediction. I'm also not a fan of taking rookies in early rounds for this reason.
  3. Know the opportunity cost of your draft choices. Opportunity cost is the essentially the price you pay for the road not travelled. In fantasy terms it's the value of the players you won't draft because of your choice, either because your positional need is decreased or because someone else will draft them. This is one of the core philosophies behind value based drafting, but it's more than just points. It requires you to not only know how you will draft, but ideally also your opponents. Will you drafting player X force your opponent to draft player Y, or will that guy still be around on your next turn? The greatest feeling in the world is when you make your pick and someone after you cries out in anguish.
  4. Develop your own tools for draft day and practice with them. I started making BeerSheets because I wanted something I could print out, bring with me wherever I went, and know that I could follow it to create my team. It needed to be fast, easy to read, and provide enough information to make the right decision without overwhelming you with data. Some drafts let you bring computers, others are just yourself and your mind. Whatever the rules, make sure you have the tools available so that you can stay on top of the draft order and always get the most value.
  5. Tiers are superior to strict rankings. There is no way to predict that player X will do better than player Y with enough fidelity to rank them before the season starts. This is why I'm such a fan of using tiers to determine the relative projections of players. Realistically if two players are ranked right next to each other then there probably isn't enough of a difference to matter and you should be considering other qualities such as historic performance, opportunity, injury risk, competition, and upside.
  6. Don't be a homer, but it's okay to have multiple guys on the same team. Aside from bye weeks it's not that big of a deal. What you don't want to do is be predictable enough for someone else to exploit your tendencies. The other side of this is drafting players from your team's rival. Can you stomach having someone you hate on your team? If the value is there consider swallowing your pride. Moral victories are for losers.
  7. Don't be afraid to reach. The best experts in Fantasy Football average a 60% accuracy. Remember that the numbers are just guesses, and if you have a gut feeling there's nothing wrong with going with it. In the end it's your team and you should be happy with it.
  8. The less predictable a position, the later that position should be drafted. This means drafting kickers and DSTs very late unless your scoring rules are weird enough to require a special strategy. Unless your draft rules require that you fill out your roster then don't bother getting a kicker. Use that last pick on a total flyer and see if anything changes leading up to Week 1. Just don't forget to pick up a kicker off the WW before your first game.
  9. The maximum value you will get for your trade bait is the draft pick you just wasted, so don't even bother. Some people exercise a strategy of picking someone up with the express purpose of trading them immediately. Remember, the four QBs you cleverly picked up even though you didn't need them were passed over by everyone else. You just sacrificed a team need for a lottery ticket that isn't likely to pay off. This is a particularly egregious mistake in the top half of the draft. This is different from drafting a late round flyer and hoping they turn out to be a sleeper, which is sound draft strategy.
  10. You can lose your league in the draft, but you win it in the waiver wire. No matter how well or poorly you draft, that's only a part of the game. Once the draft is done the real game begins. Follow the waiver wire religiously, and don't be afraid to drop your late round scrubs for something more promising if you get more information. I'm less enthusiastic about preseason trades unless you have access to new information or you're fleecing a homer.
  11. Mock until you can draft in your sleep. Mock drafting is a fantastic resource. Not only is it fairly fun, but it also helps you see how players will be taken and understand trends. If you can get to the point where you can instantly see a reach or a steal then when the real draft happens you'll be far more prepared.
  12. Challenge your perspective. It is far too easy to rely on preconceived notions or preliminary assumptions when dealing with Fantasy Football. Constantly challenge your perceptions and seek out sources that disagree with you. Find data wherever you can and honestly assess it, even if it counters your original train of thought. At worst you'll have an even stronger understanding of things. At best you may discover you were wrong.

Teemu Pokemon posted:

If it's a 1 keeper league, the goal should just be to keep the best ADP bargain, or a top end stud like Brown or Johnson if you have one, and then just treat the draft and subsequent rankings as a redraft. Don't reach on young guys because it's a "keeper league" because it's not.


Also, as an aside, one keeper leagues are dumb and pointless and you should either do a full blown keeper/dynasty or just do a redraft. Tell your league to stop sucking

Spoeank posted:

DON'T 👏 DRAFT 👏 TIGHT 👏 ENDS 👏

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
Slow draft?

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

DarWIN

dkj
Feb 18, 2009

Hyped

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Spoeank posted:

Slow draft?

Slow draft. Someone else run it because HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GRAD SCHOOL AND HAVING KIDS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA.

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon


Spoeank posted:

Slow draft?

Okay

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

SET A COURSE FOR
THE FLAVOR QUADRANT
I’m drafting Jared Cook and you can’t stop me. :colbert:

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe
Great OP as always beer

Spoeank posted:

Slow draft?

Here it is, mock you like a hurricane:

https://www.fleaflicker.com/nfl/leagues/296091

Thelonius Van Funk
Apr 7, 2007
Oh boy
Jonesing for my dynasty rookie draft

dkj
Feb 18, 2009

Thinking about starting a dynasty league this season. Where’s a good place to get ideas to make it more interesting. I added Commission Impossible to my podcasts, but is there a site/forum like that?

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it

dkj posted:

Thinking about starting a dynasty league this season. Where’s a good place to get ideas to make it more interesting. I added Commission Impossible to my podcasts, but is there a site/forum like that?

Everyone on football Twitter seemingly writes for Dynasty League Football & that place seems to have active forums.

I used to listen to Dynasty Blueprint until my podcast feed got too full and realized I only had one Dynasty league so it got the axe.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon
FYI is now a tag for the subforum.

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

Thelonius Van Funk posted:

Jonesing for my dynasty rookie draft

Superflex/2 QB tiers for me:

Tier 1: Kyler Murray, Josh Jacobs

Tier 2: N'keal Harry, Miles Sanders, DK Metcalf, Dwayne Haskins

Tier 3: AJ Brown, Deebo Samuel, TJ Hockenson, Parris Campbell, David Montgomery, Daniel Jones

Tier 4: Marquise Brown, Noah Fant, Arcega-Whiteside, Drew Lock

I like Murray and Jacobs as clear cut top guys with talent, draft capital, and opportunity. The rest I'm really not sure within each tier, comes down to team positional need and risk/reward tolerance. I really like Metcalf in Seattle, but totally get if others have some of the WRs in my tier 3 ahead of him. Others are pretty vanilla, I think. Main emerging thing I've seen that is crazy is some people saying Mecole Hardman is worth like a late 1st, purely on account of Tyreek Hill likely being done. And the typical "NFL GMs know what they're doing so Daniel Jones is worth an early 1st."

dkj
Feb 18, 2009

Spoeank posted:

Everyone on football Twitter seemingly writes for Dynasty League Football & that place seems to have active forums.

I used to listen to Dynasty Blueprint until my podcast feed got too full and realized I only had one Dynasty league so it got the axe.

I’ll check those out. I still have a sub to DLF too. Thank you!

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

FYI is now a tag for the subforum.

:thumbsup:

LesBeardly
Jul 4, 2010

BEST BALLS ON SA AWARD
Sleeper should be added as a free league host. Redraft, keeper, and dynasty options, plus news alerts as phone notifications.

Thelonius Van Funk
Apr 7, 2007
Oh boy

sourdough posted:

Superflex/2 QB tiers for me:

Tier 1: Kyler Murray, Josh Jacobs

Tier 2: N'keal Harry, Miles Sanders, DK Metcalf, Dwayne Haskins

Tier 3: AJ Brown, Deebo Samuel, TJ Hockenson, Parris Campbell, David Montgomery, Daniel Jones

Tier 4: Marquise Brown, Noah Fant, Arcega-Whiteside, Drew Lock


I have picks 5, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 and 17 so I am hoping I can get Haskins, Hock and one of the other RBs outside of Josh and Miles. My QBs are extremely bad (Carr, Kizer and Taysom Hill in a superflex) after selling Fitz at his highest last year. So Kyler is obviously gone unless I trade up, so if I don't get Dwayne at five I might sell it and try to get more picks 2020. I already have 3 first rounders, but since I am looking at pick 1 or 2 next year I might as well try to make sure I can get at least 2 QBs and some studs.

Thelonius Van Funk fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Apr 29, 2019

Ben Nevis
Jan 20, 2011
And I'm totally in on the dumb slow draft.

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe

Ben Nevis posted:

And I'm totally in on the dumb slow draft.

Welcome!

I'll leave it up for a few more days in case any more goons are interested. Then I'll round it out with some friends and writers and fire it off.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

Thelonius Van Funk posted:

Jonesing for my dynasty rookie draft

Mine's starting on Monday, you could run it! :v:

I haven't actually watched a game of football in like 3 years now, the only reason I still have a single dynasty league at all is I don't want to saddle some other sap with this lemon. If I thought anyone would go for it I'd make an LP thread and let the hive mind run my money league :homebrew:

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon


Azhais posted:

Mine's starting on Monday, you could run it! :v:

I haven't actually watched a game of football in like 3 years now, the only reason I still have a single dynasty league at all is I don't want to saddle some other sap with this lemon. If I thought anyone would go for it I'd make an LP thread and let the hive mind run my money league :homebrew:

I’ll do it if I can roleplay as a Giants GM.

spanky69
Nov 5, 2004
I THINK sba HAS LOST HIS MIND. WOOOOOO DOGGIES PUPPIES KITTENS CRAP TURDS, love sba
Fun Shoe
Just looking over the rosters from my dynasty league and there is a team that has the following players:

Josh Gordon
Kareem Hunt
Tyreek Hill

Could be a long season for that roster.

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe
A great tool I've used as commissioner for many years is to have an alternate ready in case someone drops out the day of the draft/right before the draft. We all know someone who's willing to take on yet another fantasy league, I make sure to enlist someone as the "13th owner." It saves a lot of stress on draft day when someone has a last-minute issue come up, especially for auction leagues where autodrafting isn't feasible.

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe

LesBeardly posted:

Sleeper should be added as a free league host. Redraft, keeper, and dynasty options, plus news alerts as phone notifications.

Yes! This appears to be the FIRST free league setup that allows 4+ hours between draft picks AND I can massage into letting me be commisioner of a league without being in that league. I've been searching for this every year for the Goon Fish Bowl. Thanks so much!

Drunk Nerds fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Apr 30, 2019

Ben Nevis
Jan 20, 2011

LesBeardly posted:

Sleeper should be added as a free league host. Redraft, keeper, and dynasty options, plus news alerts as phone notifications.

We're considering moving over there this year. How is it? Is there a good app? Can you draft on it?

Veritek83
Jul 7, 2008

The Irish can't drink. What you always have to remember with the Irish is they get mean. Virtually every Irish I've known gets mean when he drinks.
I feel like I got too wrapped up in the hockey postseason last year to really get overly excited for fantasy football. Luckily not a problem this year. :911:

Joined the slow draft.

dkj
Feb 18, 2009

Ben Nevis posted:

We're considering moving over there this year. How is it? Is there a good app? Can you draft on it?

I’ve made test leagues and stuff on it and it’s probably the best for redraft, but I haven’t done a season there yet.

I’m going to host any redraft leagues I commish on Sleeper, and probably dynasty because I really hate MFL.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Ben Nevis posted:

We're considering moving over there this year. How is it? Is there a good app? Can you draft on it?

My family is moving over there this year.

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe

Ben Nevis posted:

We're considering moving over there this year. How is it? Is there a good app? Can you draft on it?

Doing a test draft tomorrow for the fish bowl. The one issue I have (which you probably won't) is that it won't allow me to commision leagues I'm not in. So right now I'm deciding between making each fish bowl division 14 teams, where I control two teams and draft the worst players and then those two teams just play each other every week so it's like they're not even in the league, or forking over the ~$150 for a deluxe MFA setup, which most people don't like. Right now I'm leanning just do the sleeper workaround and use some of the saved money to increase the number of prize positions.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Drunk Nerds posted:

Doing a test draft tomorrow for the fish bowl. The one issue I have (which you probably won't) is that it won't allow me to commision leagues I'm not in. So right now I'm deciding between making each fish bowl division 14 teams, where I control two teams and draft the worst players and then those two teams just play each other every week so it's like they're not even in the league, or forking over the ~$150 for a deluxe MFA setup, which most people don't like. Right now I'm leanning just do the sleeper workaround and use some of the saved money to increase the number of prize positions.

Tweet or email Sleeper; they're very responsive and eager to make the product accessible.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Just wanted to pop in to say thanks for all the links and advice! It was a great help last year as a total noob, I ended up in 5th place in a league of 12, which is pretty good for a guy who barely understands football.

Now I've just gotta avoid the dreaded sophomore slump

RCarr
Dec 24, 2007

Anyone try sleeper for dynasty? I’d like to not use the shitshow that is MFL, but I have a dynasty salary cap league and not many places can support that.

dkj
Feb 18, 2009

RCarr posted:

Anyone try sleeper for dynasty? I’d like to not use the shitshow that is MFL, but I have a dynasty salary cap league and not many places can support that.

I’ve been following it and there is no salary cap or contract league support. They said they’re going to add a manual input slot for those things but no full support this season.

MakaVillian
Aug 16, 2003

Well, in Whoville they say - that his tiny hands grew three sizes that day.

One guy in my league (3 keepers, 12 team, 0.5ppr, 6TD) offered me the following trade:

Me gives: OBJ, 1st rounder (pick 8), 6th rounder

He gives: Lev Bell, Mahomes, 2nd rounder (pick 16), 6th rounder


My current lineup:

Odell Beckham Jr. ð~
Rex Burkhead
Tevin Coleman
Julian Edelman
Larry Fitzgerald
Tyreek Hill (gently caress YOU, ABUSIVE PIECE OF poo poo)
LeSean McCoy ð~
David Njoku
Philip Rivers
Sterling Shepard
James White
Tyrell Williams

Currently I don't have the following draft round picks: 2nd, 4th, 5th.

I'm kind of interested in the trade given that I don't know if I have 2 other keepers on my current roster, though I hate the idea of giving up the best player in the trade (and OBJ in general). I've done some trade analyzers that have it as fairly close in terms of value with me winning. I may be able to talk him into taking my 3rd round pick however.

Thoughts?

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

IMO the best player in that trade is Mahomes (especially with 6pt TDs), OBJ is on a new team that also has jarvis landry so he's a big question mark in terms of target share, similar situation for Bell, and that trading of 6th rounders is bizarre.

All that said, I personally would probably be happy trading back from #8 to #16 and giving up OBJ just to get Mahomes. Maybe I'm an idiot. If that guy would keep Bell and give you a better deal on swapping OBJ for Mahomes maybe see if you can swing that deal?

MakaVillian
Aug 16, 2003

Well, in Whoville they say - that his tiny hands grew three sizes that day.

Leperflesh posted:

IMO the best player in that trade is Mahomes (especially with 6pt TDs), OBJ is on a new team that also has jarvis landry so he's a big question mark in terms of target share, similar situation for Bell, and that trading of 6th rounders is bizarre.

All that said, I personally would probably be happy trading back from #8 to #16 and giving up OBJ just to get Mahomes. Maybe I'm an idiot. If that guy would keep Bell and give you a better deal on swapping OBJ for Mahomes maybe see if you can swing that deal?

He offered the OBJ for Mahomes deal awhile ago. I guess my problem with that was that you can get quite a bit of Mahomes' production drafting a qb in the 5th or 6th, whereas how much of OBJs value can I get even in the first. But you make a good point about target share with OBJ.

Edit: also I miscounted, I'd be receiving the 20th pick not 16th

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012
No way in hell I'd do pick 8 + Beckham for 20 + Mahomes, Beckham is obviously worth more than Mahomes. But adding in Bell makes it pretty appealing. It's a mash if the main pick swap is you trading up (Bell + Mahomes > Beckham), and if the picks stay as is, I'd still probably do it but it's at least reasonable for both sides depending how you feel about Bell, Beckham, and Mahomes.

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe
I would've taken it before the Tyreek news came out. Now, I can't get behind a trade where I get a QB who just lost the best weapon in the league, a potentially washed up Bell, AND I have to move back 8 picks

Alfalfa
Apr 24, 2003

Superman Don't Need No Seat Belt

Drunk Nerds posted:

I would've taken it before the Tyreek news came out. Now, I can't get behind a trade where I get a QB who just lost the best weapon in the league, a potentially washed up Bell, AND I have to move back 8 picks

I like the trade for you. OBJ is now sharing targets with 2 other quality receiving targets (not even including the RB's) compared to a RB who will be the entire focal point of the offense, a top (if not the top QB with or without Hill), and you only have to move back 8 spaces to do it.

I'd still counter with a 3rd instead of you giving up your 1st and him his 2nd.

OBJ, 3rd, 6th
Bell, Mahomes, 6th

Then just reiterate all the points in the posts above why the trade is horrible for you.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

MakaVillian
Aug 16, 2003

Well, in Whoville they say - that his tiny hands grew three sizes that day.

Alfalfa posted:

I like the trade for you. OBJ is now sharing targets with 2 other quality receiving targets (not even including the RB's) compared to a RB who will be the entire focal point of the offense, a top (if not the top QB with or without Hill), and you only have to move back 8 spaces to do it.

I'd still counter with a 3rd instead of you giving up your 1st and him his 2nd.

OBJ, 3rd, 6th
Bell, Mahomes, 6th

Then just reiterate all the points in the posts above why the trade is horrible for you.

I like that trade a lot better, but he's missing his 1st so I think that's almost as important as OBJ to him

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply