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BeerSheetsBrownhat posted:No one deserves to win in a week 17 league. ![]() Welcome back Fantasy Sports Fans, it's 2019. It's officially time to ![]() Free League Hosting Services
Spoeank posted:Here's an updated twitter list for fantasy: Varg posted:Footballguys just emailed out an entire list of who to follow on twitter for every team's fantasy purposes.. I might actually pay attention to twitter now. I put it into an excel file in case anyone who's not subscribed to their mailings is interested. BeerGod feel free to add this to the OP too if you want Podcasts
![]() Introduction Fantasy Football is the ancient art of nerds pouring over statistics in the hopes of predicting how infinitely more athletic and successful men will perform over the course of a professional football game. In recent history it has become a billion dollar industry while infusing itself into the collective psyche of the NFL. Countless podcasts, articles, websites, and every other source under the sun have sprung up in support of what is essentially glorified socialized gambling. There's even a television show about a league. Fantasy Football is basically Dungeons & Dragons for The leagues themselves vary from friendly to insane, including at least one where the loser gets a tattoo chosen by the winner. Other leagues have pots worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, or byzantine rules about relegation, delegation, salary caps, and every other statistic under the sun. We are collectively insane, and we can't get enough. Fantasy Football itself is a lot of fun. Not only do you get to make a game out of watching football, but it also forces you to learn about the sport as a whole. I would never have known (or cared) that last year Darren McFadden was struggling with the Raider's transition from a power blocking scheme to a zone block until he became my first round draft pick and started costing me games. It makes you a better fan when you know all the players on the field. Dirt Worshipper said it best: Dirt Worshipper posted:Before I played fantasy I despised it. We all know the obnoxious guy at the sports bar in the Brady jersey, running in between TV’s screaming ”Throw Jennings the ball!”. They disagree fundamentally with the lessons our fathers taught us about football: You root for your home team, through good years and bad. The bad years are meant to be borne with grim fidelity, the good years are our reward. Fantasy was just wrong. The Basics A league consists of several owners (typically 12), one of whom is the commissioner who manages the league. At the beginning of the season each owner drafts a roster of players. Rosters are typically fifteen players and consist of starters and a bench of reserve players to replace starters who are injured or on bye weeks. A typical starting lineup that will mirror NFL positions and consist of 1 Quarterback (QB), 2 Running Backs (RB), 3 Wide Receivers (WR), 1 Tight End (TE), a Place Kicker (PK), and a Team Defense/Special Teams (DST). Each week your players will score points for your team according to their performance. Scoring can be very simple or incredibly complicated depending on the league, but many leagues use a standard scoring system where passing provides 1 point per 25 yards, 4 points per passing touchdown, and -1 point per interception and receiving and rushing gain 1 point per 10 yards, 6 points per receiving/rushing touchdown. Field goals are typically worth 3 points, and team defense scoring depends on a number of factors including sacks, interceptions, points allowed, defensive touchdowns, etc. Many leagues will use different scoring systems depending on the preferences of the players. One significant difference is PPR, or Points Per Reception, where wide receiver are awarded a set number of points (typically 0.5 or 1) for every reception. The league season will go for a set number of weeks during the regular NFL season. Typically the last two to four weeks of the regular season are reserved for the playoffs, and most leagues end on the sixteenth week because many NFL teams will sit their star players in Week 17 if the outcome doesn't matter. Variations There are many roster variations that different leagues will use. Many leagues use a flex position where different positions can fit into a slot. The most common form of flex position replaces the third WR position in the standard lineup above with a WR/RB/TE flex position. That means that any Wide Receiver, Running Back, or Tight End player could be used in that slot. Leagues where that flex position allows a QB are typically called "2 QB leagues" because quarterbacks typically score far more points that other players. Other leagues utilize IDP or Individual Defensive Players instead of Team Defenses. IDP players score points for tackles, sacks, interceptions, touchdowns, etc. Many leagues are several years old and include rules to provide continuity between seasons. In contrast to a redraft league where every player is drafted at the start of each season some leagues use keepers where team owners are allowed to keep a set number of players per year. Other leagues are dynasty leagues where the entire roster is kept from year to year. Typically dynasty leagues use much deeper benches and include a rookie draft. The Draft Every league starts with a draft, where team owner pick their players. There are two major types of draft; the snake draft and the auction draft. A snake draft is where every owner receives a draft position and then picks a player in order for a number of rounds equal to the roster size. It's called a snake draft because the order "snakes" back and forth each round. In other words the owner who picked last in the first round will pick first in the second. Auction drafts are where each team owner has a set budget and they bid for each player until everyone's roster has been filled. There are numerous drafting strategies out there, but ultimately the goal of any draft is to get the maximum amount of value for your players. Trades and the Waiver Wire While drafting is essential, the most successful teams typically win by taking advantage of the waiver wire and trades. Trading is precisely what it sounds like; players offer each other trades that are accepted or rejected. Many leagues incorporate an approval process to prevent collusion where two players will deliberately stack one team and then split the winnings; there is no universe where Adrian Peterson is worth Mark Sanchez. Depending on the league trading may either be nonexistent or commonplace. Many leagues will end trading several weeks before the playoffs begin. The NFL has hundreds of players and most of them will not be on a team roster. As players are injured or fall out of favor team owners will be forced to pick up free agents to replace them. To do this they use the waiver wire. Each week individual players are locked the moment their team starts their game. For the duration of this "waiver period" owners who wish to claim a free agent submit a "waiver claim." Owners who wish to make more than one waiver claim must indicate the priority of their claims. At the end of the waiver period (typically a day or two after the beginning of the new week) the league software checks the standings of the teams. Going in reverse order (worst standing to highest) the teams get their highest priority claim. If multiple teams have submitted waiver claims for the same player it will go the team with the lowest standing, and the other teams will get their lower priority claims. After the waiver period has ended every player is available to be claimed immediately. The waiver wire is extremely important. Alfred Morris, the 5th ranked running back of 2012, was a free agent in most leagues until the first week. Many owners use the waiver wire to "stream" defenses and other players based on that week's match. ![]() Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Every year I put together a list of general suggestions for draft strategies, and the community provided some wonderful insight and updates. Now that the NFL draft is over and fantasy football season has started I thought it would be appropriate to revisit those ideas and put together some new thoughts and suggestions. Consider this a living document, and let me know what you think! Teemu Pokemon posted:If it's a 1 keeper league, the goal should just be to keep the best ADP bargain, or a top end stud like Brown or Johnson if you have one, and then just treat the draft and subsequent rankings as a redraft. Don't reach on young guys because it's a "keeper league" because it's not. Spoeank posted:DON'T 👏 DRAFT 👏 TIGHT 👏 ENDS 👏
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Slow draft?
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DarWIN
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Hyped
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Spoeank posted:Slow draft? Slow draft. Someone else run it because HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GRAD SCHOOL AND HAVING KIDS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA.
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Spoeank posted:Slow draft? Okay
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I’m drafting Jared Cook and you can’t stop me. ![]()
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Great OP as always beerSpoeank posted:Slow draft? Here it is, mock you like a hurricane: https://www.fleaflicker.com/nfl/leagues/296091
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Jonesing for my dynasty rookie draft
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Thinking about starting a dynasty league this season. Where’s a good place to get ideas to make it more interesting. I added Commission Impossible to my podcasts, but is there a site/forum like that?
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dkj posted:Thinking about starting a dynasty league this season. Where’s a good place to get ideas to make it more interesting. I added Commission Impossible to my podcasts, but is there a site/forum like that? Everyone on football Twitter seemingly writes for Dynasty League Football & that place seems to have active forums. I used to listen to Dynasty Blueprint until my podcast feed got too full and realized I only had one Dynasty league so it got the axe.
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Thelonius Van Funk posted:Jonesing for my dynasty rookie draft Superflex/2 QB tiers for me: Tier 1: Kyler Murray, Josh Jacobs Tier 2: N'keal Harry, Miles Sanders, DK Metcalf, Dwayne Haskins Tier 3: AJ Brown, Deebo Samuel, TJ Hockenson, Parris Campbell, David Montgomery, Daniel Jones Tier 4: Marquise Brown, Noah Fant, Arcega-Whiteside, Drew Lock I like Murray and Jacobs as clear cut top guys with talent, draft capital, and opportunity. The rest I'm really not sure within each tier, comes down to team positional need and risk/reward tolerance. I really like Metcalf in Seattle, but totally get if others have some of the WRs in my tier 3 ahead of him. Others are pretty vanilla, I think. Main emerging thing I've seen that is crazy is some people saying Mecole Hardman is worth like a late 1st, purely on account of Tyreek Hill likely being done. And the typical "NFL GMs know what they're doing so Daniel Jones is worth an early 1st."
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Spoeank posted:Everyone on football Twitter seemingly writes for Dynasty League Football & that place seems to have active forums. I’ll check those out. I still have a sub to DLF too. Thank you!
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:FYI ![]()
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Sleeper should be added as a free league host. Redraft, keeper, and dynasty options, plus news alerts as phone notifications.
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sourdough posted:Superflex/2 QB tiers for me: I have picks 5, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 and 17 so I am hoping I can get Haskins, Hock and one of the other RBs outside of Josh and Miles. My QBs are extremely bad (Carr, Kizer and Taysom Hill in a superflex) after selling Fitz at his highest last year. So Kyler is obviously gone unless I trade up, so if I don't get Dwayne at five I might sell it and try to get more picks 2020. I already have 3 first rounders, but since I am looking at pick 1 or 2 next year I might as well try to make sure I can get at least 2 QBs and some studs. Thelonius Van Funk fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Apr 29, 2019 |
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And I'm totally in on the dumb slow draft.
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Ben Nevis posted:And I'm totally in on the dumb slow draft. Welcome! I'll leave it up for a few more days in case any more goons are interested. Then I'll round it out with some friends and writers and fire it off.
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Thelonius Van Funk posted:Jonesing for my dynasty rookie draft Mine's starting on Monday, you could run it! ![]() I haven't actually watched a game of football in like 3 years now, the only reason I still have a single dynasty league at all is I don't want to saddle some other sap with this lemon. If I thought anyone would go for it I'd make an LP thread and let the hive mind run my money league ![]()
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Azhais posted:Mine's starting on Monday, you could run it! I’ll do it if I can roleplay as a Giants GM.
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Just looking over the rosters from my dynasty league and there is a team that has the following players: Josh Gordon Kareem Hunt Tyreek Hill Could be a long season for that roster.
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A great tool I've used as commissioner for many years is to have an alternate ready in case someone drops out the day of the draft/right before the draft. We all know someone who's willing to take on yet another fantasy league, I make sure to enlist someone as the "13th owner." It saves a lot of stress on draft day when someone has a last-minute issue come up, especially for auction leagues where autodrafting isn't feasible.
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LesBeardly posted:Sleeper should be added as a free league host. Redraft, keeper, and dynasty options, plus news alerts as phone notifications. Yes! This appears to be the FIRST free league setup that allows 4+ hours between draft picks AND I can massage into letting me be commisioner of a league without being in that league. I've been searching for this every year for the Goon Fish Bowl. Thanks so much! Drunk Nerds fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Apr 30, 2019 |
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LesBeardly posted:Sleeper should be added as a free league host. Redraft, keeper, and dynasty options, plus news alerts as phone notifications. We're considering moving over there this year. How is it? Is there a good app? Can you draft on it?
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I feel like I got too wrapped up in the hockey postseason last year to really get overly excited for fantasy football. Luckily not a problem this year. ![]() Joined the slow draft.
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Ben Nevis posted:We're considering moving over there this year. How is it? Is there a good app? Can you draft on it? I’ve made test leagues and stuff on it and it’s probably the best for redraft, but I haven’t done a season there yet. I’m going to host any redraft leagues I commish on Sleeper, and probably dynasty because I really hate MFL.
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Ben Nevis posted:We're considering moving over there this year. How is it? Is there a good app? Can you draft on it? My family is moving over there this year.
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Ben Nevis posted:We're considering moving over there this year. How is it? Is there a good app? Can you draft on it? Doing a test draft tomorrow for the fish bowl. The one issue I have (which you probably won't) is that it won't allow me to commision leagues I'm not in. So right now I'm deciding between making each fish bowl division 14 teams, where I control two teams and draft the worst players and then those two teams just play each other every week so it's like they're not even in the league, or forking over the ~$150 for a deluxe MFA setup, which most people don't like. Right now I'm leanning just do the sleeper workaround and use some of the saved money to increase the number of prize positions.
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Drunk Nerds posted:Doing a test draft tomorrow for the fish bowl. The one issue I have (which you probably won't) is that it won't allow me to commision leagues I'm not in. So right now I'm deciding between making each fish bowl division 14 teams, where I control two teams and draft the worst players and then those two teams just play each other every week so it's like they're not even in the league, or forking over the ~$150 for a deluxe MFA setup, which most people don't like. Right now I'm leanning just do the sleeper workaround and use some of the saved money to increase the number of prize positions. Tweet or email Sleeper; they're very responsive and eager to make the product accessible.
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Just wanted to pop in to say thanks for all the links and advice! It was a great help last year as a total noob, I ended up in 5th place in a league of 12, which is pretty good for a guy who barely understands football. Now I've just gotta avoid the dreaded sophomore slump
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Anyone try sleeper for dynasty? I’d like to not use the shitshow that is MFL, but I have a dynasty salary cap league and not many places can support that.
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RCarr posted:Anyone try sleeper for dynasty? I’d like to not use the shitshow that is MFL, but I have a dynasty salary cap league and not many places can support that. I’ve been following it and there is no salary cap or contract league support. They said they’re going to add a manual input slot for those things but no full support this season.
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One guy in my league (3 keepers, 12 team, 0.5ppr, 6TD) offered me the following trade: Me gives: OBJ, 1st rounder (pick 8), 6th rounder He gives: Lev Bell, Mahomes, 2nd rounder (pick 16), 6th rounder My current lineup: Odell Beckham Jr. ð~ Rex Burkhead Tevin Coleman Julian Edelman Larry Fitzgerald Tyreek Hill (gently caress YOU, ABUSIVE PIECE OF poo poo) LeSean McCoy ð~ David Njoku Philip Rivers Sterling Shepard James White Tyrell Williams Currently I don't have the following draft round picks: 2nd, 4th, 5th. I'm kind of interested in the trade given that I don't know if I have 2 other keepers on my current roster, though I hate the idea of giving up the best player in the trade (and OBJ in general). I've done some trade analyzers that have it as fairly close in terms of value with me winning. I may be able to talk him into taking my 3rd round pick however. Thoughts?
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IMO the best player in that trade is Mahomes (especially with 6pt TDs), OBJ is on a new team that also has jarvis landry so he's a big question mark in terms of target share, similar situation for Bell, and that trading of 6th rounders is bizarre. All that said, I personally would probably be happy trading back from #8 to #16 and giving up OBJ just to get Mahomes. Maybe I'm an idiot. If that guy would keep Bell and give you a better deal on swapping OBJ for Mahomes maybe see if you can swing that deal?
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Leperflesh posted:IMO the best player in that trade is Mahomes (especially with 6pt TDs), OBJ is on a new team that also has jarvis landry so he's a big question mark in terms of target share, similar situation for Bell, and that trading of 6th rounders is bizarre. He offered the OBJ for Mahomes deal awhile ago. I guess my problem with that was that you can get quite a bit of Mahomes' production drafting a qb in the 5th or 6th, whereas how much of OBJs value can I get even in the first. But you make a good point about target share with OBJ. Edit: also I miscounted, I'd be receiving the 20th pick not 16th
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No way in hell I'd do pick 8 + Beckham for 20 + Mahomes, Beckham is obviously worth more than Mahomes. But adding in Bell makes it pretty appealing. It's a mash if the main pick swap is you trading up (Bell + Mahomes > Beckham), and if the picks stay as is, I'd still probably do it but it's at least reasonable for both sides depending how you feel about Bell, Beckham, and Mahomes.
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I would've taken it before the Tyreek news came out. Now, I can't get behind a trade where I get a QB who just lost the best weapon in the league, a potentially washed up Bell, AND I have to move back 8 picks
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Drunk Nerds posted:I would've taken it before the Tyreek news came out. Now, I can't get behind a trade where I get a QB who just lost the best weapon in the league, a potentially washed up Bell, AND I have to move back 8 picks I like the trade for you. OBJ is now sharing targets with 2 other quality receiving targets (not even including the RB's) compared to a RB who will be the entire focal point of the offense, a top (if not the top QB with or without Hill), and you only have to move back 8 spaces to do it. I'd still counter with a 3rd instead of you giving up your 1st and him his 2nd. OBJ, 3rd, 6th Bell, Mahomes, 6th Then just reiterate all the points in the posts above why the trade is horrible for you.
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Alfalfa posted:I like the trade for you. OBJ is now sharing targets with 2 other quality receiving targets (not even including the RB's) compared to a RB who will be the entire focal point of the offense, a top (if not the top QB with or without Hill), and you only have to move back 8 spaces to do it. I like that trade a lot better, but he's missing his 1st so I think that's almost as important as OBJ to him
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