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Elephant Ambush posted:Odin 300 is an rear end in a top hat. I can't even cheese it with my Raijin SSB spam team. You have a good Ice or Wind chain magicite team? I used a backrow ice team and got it in one shot. I believe he's all piercing so wall/protectga is useless. My battle was reliant on a couple of breaks, Elarra, and zerging him down with Ice abilities.
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iamsosmrt posted:You have a good Ice or Wind chain magicite team? I used a backrow ice team and got it in one shot. I believe he's all piercing so wall/protectga is useless. My battle was reliant on a couple of breaks, Elarra, and zerging him down with Ice abilities. Physical wind chain. No ice. It's the crazy damage output and the bullshit instant KOs that really piss me off. I'm going through the rest of the 220s and I might just skip the 300s. The rewards are probably not worth the frustration.
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300 Gilgamesh definitely isn't. gently caress that breaksight mechanic.
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Elephant Ambush posted:Physical wind chain. No ice. It's the crazy damage output and the bullshit instant KOs that really piss me off. Yeah, you absolutely want a backrow team with Odin, unless you're doing some absolute jank with curaise/reraise. His bog-standard attack and Apocalypse Zantetsuken both respect row, and he only uses Zan and Death on frontrow fighters; his backrow attacks instead are Stop and fixed AoE damage. Oh, and he gets hit full-force by Mind Breakdown, so you can make Stop a negligible problem at worst. You can probably do a physical backrow team if you've got a good Dragoon and/or some wind dudes with ranged weapons (Bartz and Faris can use throwers and bows, if it helps, Zidane can use throwers, Vaan can use guns, and Rikku makes a good backup with her Blitzball/Gun access if you have some Celerity or Thief skills handy). It'll nerf Zack's damage, but if you have Zack's BSB then you can just lifesiphon chain that and his Chain to stack imperils and get a splash of wind damage alongside it. KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Dec 29, 2018 |
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KataraniSword posted:Yeah, you absolutely want a backrow team with Odin, unless you're doing some absolute jank with curaise/reraise. His bog-standard attack and Apocalypse Zantetsuken both respect row, and he only uses Zan and Death on frontrow fighters; his backrow attacks instead are Stop and fixed AoE damage. Oh, and he gets hit full-force by Mind Breakdown, so you can make Stop a negligible problem at worst. Thanks I might try that.
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I just noticed that they changed the music for magicite battles. The new version is so much better.
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Fister Roboto posted:I just noticed that they changed the music for magicite battles. The new version is so much better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNhjaHdUciE&t=15s Just kidding. That's for the new stuff. If you can actually do the 300 fights, you can probably sub-30 the 5 stars no problem and will probably be done with them at that point. Here's a Sub-20 Lakshmi. Awakenings are no joke. Neither is Olan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Wff3SqFxg Varance fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Dec 30, 2018 |
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Dec 30, 2018 00:42
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Another one down   Just water, holy and dark to go!
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I really oughta have a go at 4* magicite sometime. My first time going in I just got completely stomped. My arsenal has improved since then but my thought of them as out of my league remains.
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Bruceski posted:I really oughta have a go at 4* magicite sometime. My first time going in I just got completely stomped. My arsenal has improved since then but my thought of them as out of my league remains. I feel like this with 5*. I have a decked out Queztalcoatl team but I can barely scratch him before wiping. I honestly have no idea what to do. I've posted my team and followed advice and I think I'm just going to wait until I get some kind of crazy earth awakening SB next year. These are just bullshit and not fun at all.
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My major problem is with 5* Water magicites and there's not much coming out that actually helps with that. Thanks to that Ultra Lucky Paine USB combined with Bartz USB1 and Ignis BSB I'm getting there for physical, but magic... it's really hard to find. I have Maria USB and Rydia's BSB. And that's kind of it. I'm even considering reducing my 4A hoard from 15 to 12 pulls just to have a few more goes at VI-B2 if the New Year's 33x doesn't land me anything. There aren't any useful BSBs for this are there?
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Elephant Ambush posted:I feel like this with 5*. I have a decked out Queztalcoatl team but I can barely scratch him before wiping. I honestly have no idea what to do. I've posted my team and followed advice and I think I'm just going to wait until I get some kind of crazy earth awakening SB next year. These are just bullshit and not fun at all. This is kinda where I'm at with 5*s too, but I'm working on building some fire resist 4* magicite decks; I can kill Marilis in 18 seconds so my dps SHOULD be good enough for Phoenix, just need to actually survive it. I'm hoping that a pair of 10% fire resist magicite with 10% extra resist inherited on will be enough to bridge the gap (for a total of like 19% after stacking reductions?)
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did things and got enough for another 50 pull Tifa AOSB (dupe) Rydia AOSB (dupe) ah well, still I got what I wanted most importantly off this banner. Shoenin fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Dec 30, 2018 |
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Dec 30, 2018 01:52
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The third banner cursed me with a 1/11 duplicate Celes LMR. My third one.  Well, maybe New Year's will bless me with something usable. I sure hope so.
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My one and probably only fest pull netted me Elarra USB2 and LMR It's no chain but I have a few ideas on using them
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After a lot of waffling back and forth I decided to do a pull on banner 3 so I could be super disappointed when I got not a chain. 1/11 - Edward CSB Nice! My physical holy is a million times better than my magical holy (a 90% tricked out FFT holy wrecking crew compared to...uh...Minwu USB2, and Raines BSB I suppose) but it's a gen2 chain so with the damage boost it won't matter. Team building might get a little weird to fit a boostga on as well but I'll figure it out. edit: he's a bard, I could just give him the stacking atk up bardsong Ayndin fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Dec 30, 2018 |
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by the way, when can we expect that recent Fest banners JP just got to come global?
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wlog Japan is about 6 months ahead of us, so probably May/June. Something to think about: KHIII is coming out at the end of January, and assuming that they do an event for it I'd bet a modest amount of money we'll see Sora & Riku awakenings on the banner. That's probably worth pulling on unless you absolutely want to save for the awakeningfest in 6 months (in which case I assume in 3 months there will be an even more nonsense fest in JP and that will become the target, and so on, and you will never actually pull on anything  ).
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2 pulls netted me both holy chains. For the purpose of taking down Hades, which is the better option: Agrias usb with her imperils Beatrix usb with her double casts and chasers My other dps is orlandeau usb
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Probably Beatrix USB? At +50% holy vulnerability, stacking more imperils will only bring marginal gains in damage compared to the raw power of a chaser. Inversely at +20% vulnerability things edge more in favor of the imperil, since you get more bang for your buck (1.4+/1.2 > 1.7+/1.5) and you're less likely to have hit the 9999 caps with each hit. Doing so certainly helped me to beat the real Siegfried with Beatrix BSB1/Ramza CSB/Marche USB.
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Hogama posted:There's ALSO an end of the month Final Fantasy VII event (at long last)! Banner 1 posted:Zack’s Ragnarok [AASB, +10 ATK] - 15 single-target Wind/NE physical attacks, Critical Damage +50% to party, Wind Awakening Mode, Break Damage Cap Level 1 & Hard Blast to user Banner 2 posted:Cloud's Durandal [AOSB, +10 ATK] - 3 single-target Dark Overflow physical attacks
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And just like that, Angeal went from being a punchline to being one of the most solid support Knights in the game, right behind Paladin Cecil. Without a brave or awakening, either. Regenga on someone who can pack Healing Smite? Dualcast/Trance combo? Glint that is basically "shellga + bubble", but better (since Shellga can be dispelled and also it stacks with shellga)? Rude oddly seems like his USB would synergize well with Machina and post-Japanfest Noctis, refreshing their bubbles potentially fast enough (even though Noctis doesn't really use his as much any more) that they have total uptime in anything CT difficulty or lower. Elena has a critfix (in a realm that desperately needs party-wide critfixing, so much of it is selfish save for Cait Sith BSB) and Hastega on top of being a fantastic support partner for Vincent, stacking the imperils while Vince does DPS. And then there's Cloud, who is having as much problem deciding between Wind and Dark as Rinoa has deciding between Ice and Earth. Does he want to be Zack or Sephiroth?  NGDBSS posted:Probably Beatrix USB? At +50% holy vulnerability, stacking more imperils will only bring marginal gains in damage compared to the raw power of a chaser. Inversely at +20% vulnerability things edge more in favor of the imperil, since you get more bang for your buck (1.4+/1.2 > 1.7+/1.5) and you're less likely to have hit the 9999 caps with each hit. Doing so certainly helped me to beat the real Siegfried with Beatrix BSB1/Ramza CSB/Marche USB. Beatrix USB is absolutely better DPS until you get to 20% weakness or raw neutral. The places Agrias's USB really shines are things like D300 Garland in the newest event, where she can just stack imperils and turn a 1.2x multiplier into a 1.8x multiplier. The biggest problem is that running Beatrix USB and Orlandeau USB together is incredibly orb-hungry, since one's a True Doublecast and the other's a rank chaser. KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 10:56 on Dec 30, 2018 |
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KataraniSword posted:(in a realm that desperately needs party-wide critfixing, so much of it is selfish save for Cait Sith BSB) Angeal BSB is also a party-wide critfix
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KataraniSword posted:And just like that, Angeal went from being a punchline to being one of the most solid support Knights in the game, right behind Paladin Cecil. Without a brave or awakening, either. Regenga on someone who can pack Healing Smite? Dualcast/Trance combo? Glint that is basically "shellga + bubble", but better (since Shellga can be dispelled and also it stacks with shellga)? Yeah, luckily I haven't honed anything in a while so I just took my arsenal of 2x r3 assault sabers and added an r5 assault saber
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When I see NE, I don't think Non-Elemental, I think Neutral Evil. It makes reading the descriptions fun.
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Kheldarn posted:When I see NE, I don't think Non-Elemental, I think Neutral Evil. It makes reading the descriptions fun. Northeast
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Elephant Ambush posted:Northeast Yeah, maps and directions are fun, too. Thanks, Gary Gygax.
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Bruceski posted:I really oughta have a go at 4* magicite sometime. My first time going in I just got completely stomped. My arsenal has improved since then but my thought of them as out of my league remains. I was in this position but today I finally got off my rear end and did one. I got the earth one with Alphinaud chain and DTs, OK's DPS USB, Aerith healing and two entrusters to get Alphinaud and OK going and then to feed a continual stream of soul gage into Aerith to keep up the healing.
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Should have also pointed out for the VII JP event that a balance change goes with it: Angeal picks up Spellblade 5(6) & White Magic 4. Elena gets Machinist 5(6).
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So who becomes the new joke character now?
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Kiros and Ward are still waiting for justice.
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I dunno, Wol?
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That reminds me and ive wondered for awhile: Why is Poison even a thing? Wasn't Bio dark damage when the game started?
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A lot of Marcus' new toys lean on wind element as well as poison since he got his legend dive and a USB. He's been saved from the scrapheap but he's gone right into the company of giants that is every other good physical wind user in the game. An instant-cast wind-imperil with a 4-hit wind/poison/NE chaser isn't bad though imo, and a wind imperil has a place until you can get down 5* wind magicite for a wind imperil, at last. We can still point and laugh at Ricard who mysteriously has a legend dive but nothing above a BSB. His ability spread is also Dragoon 5/6, Combat 4, Black Magic 2(?) and... Knight 4 from his dive? What a loser.
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Electric Phantasm posted:So who becomes the new joke character now? Khimari, but he's always been a joke, even in his own game.
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DeadButDelicious posted:We can still point and laugh at Ricard who mysteriously has a legend dive but nothing above a BSB. His ability spread is also Dragoon 5/6, Combat 4, Black Magic 2(?) and... Knight 4 from his dive? What a loser. Ricard does get a USB though. It's like a weird Marche USB for both wind and lightning Dragoons, where he gives everyone in the same row no air time, while he also gets Instant Cast Jumps for himself. It's weird, but it's at least a unique gimmick that actually could work for Dragoon lovers. There's a few people left with no USB too, like Rufus and FF1 Thief, but the biggest joke will always be Wrieg, who is doomed to be horrible unless we ever have another Legends event.
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Shoenin posted:That reminds me and ive wondered for awhile: Why is Poison even a thing? Wasn't Bio dark damage when the game started? No. That was purely FF4 that did that, I think.
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KataraniSword posted:No. That was purely FF4 that did that, I think. and FFBE, which is an actual real final fantasy game, you can tell because it has cards for its OCs in the final fantasy CCG.
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