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also it's been a really long time but i'm pretty sure interix used ELF binaries, so there had to be kernel support for them back then too
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Beeftweeter posted:lol welp. only comment i have here is that i think WSL1 is still being actively developed? it at least was an option not too long ago ah maybe i've never used it. looks like it only dates back to 2017 so i figure they found out pretty quickly that their approach was just going to be chasing corner cases forever. maybe they can hire some freebsd developers to help 'em out, looks they're still working on linux(4)
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shackleford posted:ah maybe i've never used it. looks like it only dates back to 2017 so i figure they found out pretty quickly that their approach was just going to be chasing corner cases forever. maybe they can hire some freebsd developers to help 'em out, looks they're still working on linux(4) 2017 was 6 years ago OP.
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Beeftweeter posted:also it's been a really long time but i'm pretty sure interix used ELF binaries, so there had to be kernel support for them back then too the NT kernel doesn't even have support for PE binaries, why would it support ELF binaries?
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pseudorandom name posted:the NT kernel doesn't even have support for PE binaries, why would it support ELF binaries? ok, so the subsystem i guess? like sorry for making a semantic mistake about the nt kernel in the linux thread
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paging hackbunny!! i wish 
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Beeftweeter posted:ok, so the subsystem i guess? no, its microkernely enough that processes assemble other processes in userspace not microkernely enough to parse and render TrueType fonts in userspace, though, lol
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FlapYoJacks posted:2017 was 6 years ago OP. lol the CPU in my primary laptop is a skylake chip 
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shackleford posted:lol the CPU in my primary laptop is a skylake chip lol showing my full rear end here, my primary desktop is haswell but my primary laptop is comet lake. still kinda old i guess
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Woolie Wool posted:I for one can't believe Linux made it for almost 20 years on what was essentially a glorified version of AUTOEXEC.BAT hate to break it to you but virtually every minicomputer multiprocessing system ran scripts in their respective native command language after their kernel started or image was loaded and used those to manage startup of subsystems using separate processes this is really an early 1960s operating system concept that’s still in use today, like time-sliced timesharing, memory protection, virtual memory, and virtualization as a whole (structured programming got off the ground in the same era)
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Yeah, the reason why rc scripts are called that is because it's short for RUNCOM, a facility implemented in CTSS in the early 1960s - and so far as I remember, it was added to run commands automatically on system start-up. Another 60s thing that's slowly making a comeback in Unix is real (not POSIX) hardware-enforced capabilities. BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 10:25 on Dec 7, 2023 |
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any of you linux janitors have a decent "how 2 openstack" and/or "how 2 kubernetes" guide? looking at applying on a job where they use both to some extent normally I wouldn't go learn a handful of new techs for a job application and possible interview, but it'd be a 30% raise and is a union gig at a university, so y'know
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Kazinsal posted:any of you linux janitors have a decent … "how 2 kubernetes" guide? you wanna ping jonny290 on this. he's been taking a posting hiatus but you could always try a PM, his twitter or bluesky
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nudgenudgetilt posted:where the ffs fucks at Fun File System
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saving this one for the "get out of here with your bleeding-edge distros and newfangled filesystems, all you need is good ol' debian stable and ext4" crowd
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Beeftweeter posted:Fun File System
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I read the upstream docs from the kubernetes project, they seem fine. Make sure you don't ever use Helm for anything because it is poo poo from an rear end. If you want to actually deploy a new cluster in prod then that is a different matter.
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NihilCredo posted:saving this one for the "get out of here with your bleeding-edge distros and newfangled filesystems, all you need is good ol' debian stable and ext4" crowd don't forget the 'use a real filesystem that doesnt have data corruption, like ext4' crowd 
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NihilCredo posted:saving this one for the "get out of here with your bleeding-edge distros and newfangled filesystems, all you need is good ol' debian stable and ext4" crowd sid stays winning
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Beeftweeter posted:sid stays winning on that note I'm happy to report that most of the kde packages in fedora rawhide have been updated to plasma 6 and I'm now daily driving it the worst bug I have encountered so far is that the extract/compress menu options have disappeared from the file manager's right click menu, which is not exactly a devastating issue
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NihilCredo posted:saving this one for the "get out of here with your bleeding-edge distros and newfangled filesystems, all you need is good ol' debian stable and ext4" crowd Debian is bad, don’t use Debian. I don’t know if this was a “Debian loving around with source code” bug or a legit kernel bug. If it’s the former: LOL. If it’s the later: I hope new Torvalds relapses for a bit and tears the heads off of whoever merged that poo poo code.
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FlapYoJacks posted:Debian is bad, don’t use Debian. I don’t know if this was a “Debian loving around with source code” bug or a legit kernel bug. it has a link to lkml discussion and it sounds like it's not debian's fault, my vague and probably wrong impression is they introduced some new kernel feature that multiple fs drivers needed to be updated for, and ext4's implementation came with a subtle bug no torvalds explosion in what i saw sorry
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FlapYoJacks posted:Debian is bad, don’t use Debian. I’m using Debian right now op
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trip report: it’s bad 
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guess i skipped over that update. update procrastinators stay winning
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Soricidus posted:trip report: it’s bad Should have used Fedora or RHEL. 
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BobHoward posted:it has a link to lkml discussion and it sounds like it's not debian's fault, my vague and probably wrong impression is they introduced some new kernel feature that multiple fs drivers needed to be updated for, and ext4's implementation came with a subtle bug afaict it's not, it's a kernel bug that just happens to impact debian stable
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FlapYoJacks posted:Should have used Fedora or RHEL. i like apt and dpkg. i haven't seriously used fedora in probably about 20 years (beyond maybe trying a liveboot once or twice) but back then package management wasn't as easy so i'm assuming that has not changed
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BobHoward posted:no torvalds explosion in what i saw sorry supposedly he doesn't do that sort of stuff any more after he did drugs or CBT or whatever back in 2018 https://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-on-state-of-linux-today-and-how-ai-figures-in-its-future/ posted:Now for Torvalds, "being there all the time is not a problem because I love doing what I'm doing. I was on vacation a few months ago, and I have my laptop. And if I hadn't had my laptop with me, I would have been so bored. It is what I do. But I realized that's not the life for everybody, especially when you have to put years of your life into this."
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Beeftweeter posted:i like apt and dpkg. i haven't seriously used fedora in probably about 20 years (beyond maybe trying a liveboot once or twice) but back then package management wasn't as easy so i'm assuming that has not changed You would assume wrong.
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dnf is a million times better than apt. thats an accurate metric i measured it.
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Mr. Crow posted:dnf is a million times better than apt. thats an accurate metric i measured it. Can confirm.
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Mr. Crow posted:dnf is a million times better than apt. thats an accurate metric i measured it. something named "did not finish" doesn't sound like it's very good at installing things
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Beeftweeter posted:something named "did not finish" doesn't sound like it's very good at installing things Dandified Yum
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