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Crowsbeak posted:Nah, you just think that anyone who doesn't always agree with you is an enemy, that's the way it always is with you and several other posters here and not just over this issue. I mean I have a mental illness and it means I sometimes do think this way, but I Know its wrong to do so and work to avoid such thoughts, or saying them on here. You are someone who wants to hurt people who have suffered greatly through anti-abortion bullshit, which includes family members of mine. You have no empathy or care for other people. You, literally, want to tell a woman she is is obligated to carry her rapist's child and you'll never acknowledge that. You'll just whine about 'it's life' and not care about the life you're ruining. So no. You don't get to play the "why don't you treat me nice?" card. You don't get treated nice because you tell women who were raped they are obligated to undergo 9 months of shame, humiliation, suffering and pain because you know what is better for them than they do.\ Edit: And there's no difference of opinion here. I clarified this. You believe women who are raped don't deserve to have any say over their body.
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Gyges posted:So right now is this more or less accurate for the "in play" Senate race? Missouri seems like it's closer to the could go either way camp. At least in recent polling. In my heart, I know Roy Blunt we'll win and that sucks.
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turn it up TURN ME ON posted:And calling people murderers for undergoing medical procedures, even if you don't agree with them, doesn't make me want to be nice to you. Well you and tiny brontosauruses are always being assholes doesn't make me want to change my mind. In fact I was saying her story made me think. But what do you know, you both decided to be even bigger assholes. Maybe you and her could learn something from Talmonis. Not that you will you two have always been assholes no matter what the issue is. ImpAtom posted:You are someone who wants to hurt people who have suffered greatly through anti-abortion bullshit, which includes family members of mine. You have no empathy or care for other people. You know you don't treat someone worse when they start to listen at all what their saying? I may be a vulture but at least I'm not a self righteous rear end in a top hat like you three are. Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Oct 20, 2016 |
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Gyges posted:So right now is this more or less accurate for the "in play" Senate race? there's also california which is 100% guaranteed to go blue, since both candidates on the ballot are democrats. but harris is most likely gonna win
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Crowsbeak posted:Actually I did, and it is giving me a place to think. > Note being poo poo heads to people doesn't actually convert them. Just thought you might want to know. Nothing except infinite agony, should my body betray me the way my sister-in--law's did hers. But the real tragedy here is your hurt feelings.
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Crowsbeak posted:Nah, you just think that anyone who doesn't always agree with you is an enemy, that's the way it always is with you and several other posters here and not just over this issue. I mean I have a mental illness and it means I sometimes do think this way, but I Know its wrong to do so and work to avoid such thoughts, or saying them on here. I'm very much your enemy and I really do hope horrible things happen to you. If it ever came to pass that I could in some way facilitate your suffering, I would do it.
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Crowsbeak posted:Well you and tiny brontosauruses are always being assholes doesn't make me want to change my mind. In fact I was saying her story made me think. But what do you know, you both decided to be even bigger assholes.
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Themagicalgoat posted:Such callousness! People don't conceive their burgers. Not even Chris Christie.
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Mister Adequate posted:"Of course I can. They must have been sinners, or God would have answered. " No-one reads the book of Job because it's long and depressing.
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That anti-choice politicians repeatedly frame late abortions as solely some kind of recreational birth control is the most frustrating aspect of the argument to me. There are plenty of reasons why something like that happens, and like a previous poster mentioned, it's almost never voluntary. One of my girlfriend's hobby buddies had a wanted pregnancy that, tragically, needed to be terminated due to a congenital defect that assured she was going to have a stillbirth. Of course, Governor Jindal had just finished publicly palling around with the Duck Dynasty crew and passing a new batch of abortion restrictions, so you can guess what happened. It's infuriating that they would hurt so many people with that kind of torture to fight a willfully misconstrued "enemy". Edit: looks like the discussion reached an end while I was posting. Carry on
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Crowsbeak posted:Well you and tiny brontosauruses are always being assholes doesn't make me want to change my mind. In fact I was saying her story made me think. But what do you know, you both decided to be even bigger assholes. Nobody gives a poo poo about what opinions rattle around in your diseased and hateful mind
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FactsAreUseless posted:Man, nobody gives a gently caress if you change your mind. Who cares? Lots of people are lovely people, nobody expects you to not be lovely. Go live your lovely life. Enjoy yourself. Go out in the sun. Why do people keep responding? It, like everything else in life, is pointless.
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"Gee, if you were nice, maybe I'd change my mind!" Who gives a poo poo. Either you agree with the points or you don't, who cares if they make you feel good to read.
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D&D is such an echo chamber we can't have threads about police abuse because it's highly offensive to certain people. Bitching about it is the lamest thing.
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tumblr hype man posted:If you add nine months to that you get 21 years, they are saying that if fetuses are people from conception why do we measure from birth? Most people do not know their own dates of conception. Not everyone is in a uterus for 9 months. Then there's embryos who are frozen and then implanted at a later date. Tiny Brontosaurus posted:I wasn't married yet so she wasn't quite my sister-in-law, but we were already family and she was expecting her first child. My first niece. I bought one of those little baby towels with the hood and little teddy-bear ears, and her name embroidered on it. You can get teddy bear ears on pretty much anything for babies these days. I can imagine, just barely, having to wait twenty hours while my child slowly died. I can imagine the sounds of a hospital, especially the sounds of a maternity ward, and imagining hearing over the PA every time a baby was born alive, knowing my baby would not be, is heartbreaking. It would be heartbreaking even at one remove, as someone's sister-in-law. It doesn't change my belief that your niece's death shouldn't have been hastened, unless your sister-in-law's life became endangered. I'm sure you'd say this makes me an empathy-less vulture; it'd be understandable if you did. There's no excusing the nurses calling her a murderer, not to her face, not behind her back, not in a conversation with someone else years later, though, not even if she hadn't had to wait and had chosen to have her dying child delivered immediately, but especially since she did have to do so. That is appalling; not as appalling as the situation itself, but appalling nevertheless.
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Crowsbeak posted:Well you and tiny brontosauruses are always being assholes doesn't make me want to change my mind. In fact I was saying her story made me think. But what do you know, you both decided to be even bigger assholes. Instead of making a broad issue about you, maybe understand where someone's anger is coming from, that perhaps they're passionate about something important. It sucks getting put on blast, but if your reaction is usually/always this defensive, you're gonna fail to grow in a lot of situations.
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No Butt Stuff posted:Why do people keep responding? It, like everything else in life, is pointless.
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Tiny Brontosaurus. I am so goddamned sorry your family had to experience that. I am so sorry that y'all were treated so horridly by those nurses. I am so grateful that you managed to weather that, and I hope your sister-in-law has managed to remain as healthy as she can, as well. You're a good dude. Y'all didn't deserve to be treated like that. She didn't deserve to be treated like that. My deepest condolences, and warmest well-wishes to you and yours.
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Lamb Chowder posted:People don't conceive their burgers. Not even Chris Christie. Are you anti-choice AND a Lost Cause apologist? Holy poo poo dude.
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According to a single google poll with 40% undecideds Kentucky is about as much in play as Florida.
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Lamb Chowder posted:People don't conceive their burgers. Not even Chris Christie. The person I was responding to was talking about empathizing with other peoples' fetuses, not ones' own. Cows have faces and communicate their pain when it is repeatedly and cruelly inflicted on them.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Haha, yeah, this real argument that anyone is making. I hear you, brother. I hear it! ...what? I think you think I was making a joke or something?
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Lightning Knight posted:What about empathy for women who need abortions? For the woman who would love to be a mother if she wasn't so poor and knew she couldn't provide for the child? For the woman who loses a child to birth defect or miscarriage? How can we possibly understand the depth of that agony? I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with from what I said. I am pro-choice. 100% and forever, regardless of whether or not it's something I see as tragic. It's not my choice to make, and never should be. Crowsbeak posted:Well you and tiny brontosauruses are always being assholes doesn't make me want to change my mind. In fact I was saying her story made me think. But what do you know, you both decided to be even bigger assholes. Don't bring me up mate. Your views are horrid and result in suffering across the world.
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Crowsbeak posted:Well you and tiny brontosauruses are always being assholes doesn't make me want to change my mind. In fact I was saying her story made me think. But what do you know, you both decided to be even bigger assholes. Yeah I hate it when people like having rights over their own bodies, bunch of assholes. Keep fighting the good fight Crowsbeak we're all counting on you to stand up to the vast abortionist conspiracy.
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zonohedron posted:Most people do not know their own dates of conception. Not everyone is in a uterus for 9 months. Then there's embryos who are frozen and then implanted at a later date. But it sure excuses you calling her a murderer, apparently? Somehow everything you do is okay.
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SomeMathGuy posted:Actually I can't think of any goons that have truly lived, but I'm open to being surprised. I went to France once and published a novel recently 
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*gets out big rear end megaphone like in an old cartoon about college sports* "people who drink liquids are loving idiots"
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Chokes McGee posted:I went to France once and published a novel recently congrats
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zonohedron posted:Most people do not know their own dates of conception. Not everyone is in a uterus for 9 months. Then there's embryos who are frozen and then implanted at a later date. That doesn't make sense. If you believe it was wrong to terminate a non-viable fetus because it would be ethically wrong, isn't it murder? That makes her a murderer. If abortion is murder than women who get abortions are murderers. If you don't believe that nothing about your position makes sense.
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Bassetking posted:Tiny Brontosaurus. I am a lady and thank you  The whole family is okay now. There is some commemoration for the death of the first grandchild, which I know makes some goons go "poison womb lol lol lol," but ritual is part of healing and everybody has to do what they can to get by. Chokes McGee posted:I went to France once and published a novel recently This is huge! How are you managing to restrain yourself from starting every post with "As a published novelist, I..."
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Crowsbeak posted:Well you and tiny brontosauruses are always being assholes doesn't make me want to change my mind. In fact I was saying her story made me think. But what do you know, you both decided to be even bigger assholes. "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. The World English Bible translates the passage as: You hypocrite!" Matthew 7:5 quote:You know you don't treat someone worse when they start to listen at all what their saying? I may be a vulture but at least I'm not a self righteous rear end in a top hat like you three are. ironicatgrowingeverbiggerforalltimeuntilitencompassesallofcreation.gif
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Lightning Knight posted:Are you anti-choice AND a Lost Cause apologist? Holy poo poo dude. Hey bud try not to see everything someone says as raising the standard for some particular ideology but rather a more careful assessment of the issue and it's particulars. I know you're 21 so this may not be natural yet, but your body is still changing.
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Maybe we could talk about politics instead of arguing about abortion? Maybe we could talk about Trump's statements today? I think they'll be enough to persuade republicans not to make a fuss and will generally prevent last night from hurting him much.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:But it sure excuses you calling her a murderer, apparently? Somehow everything you do is okay. I don't think that every anti-abortion person thinks that abortions in cases where the fetus isn't viable counts as murder. edit: How did this happen? HOW DID I JOIN THE CONVERSATION? WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME I WANNA TALK ABOUT POLLS AND STUFF theflyingorc fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Oct 20, 2016 |
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FactsAreUseless posted:I thought you were just making a weird strawman argument. Evidently not. Nah. Just saying that arguing with someone whose mind is THAT made up is kind of a waste unless it's just something you enjoy doing at this point. The everything else in life was more a jab at my own nihilistic thought tendencies.
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Ogmius815 posted:Maybe we could talk about politics instead of arguing about abortion? Maybe we could talk about Trump's statements today? I think they'll be enough to persuade republicans not to make a fuss and will generally prevent last night from hurting him much. ... The part where he said he'd accept the results if he won? Because that was arguably worse than last night.
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isk posted:Instead of making a broad issue about you, maybe understand where someone's anger is coming from, that perhaps they're passionate about something important. It sucks getting put on blast, but if your reaction is usually/always this defensive, you're gonna fail to grow in a lot of situations. I actually was willing to listen, but then not when people are saying I deserve to die. Which Tiny did in fact say. Also Tiny, that is a tragedy that happened to your sister in law. Still doesn't change the fact you're a horrible rear end in a top hat. Also frankly if you act this way in real life don't be surprised if failure accompanies you.
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Ogmius815 posted:Maybe we could talk about politics instead of arguing about abortion? Maybe we could talk about Trump's statements today? I think they'll be enough to persuade republicans not to make a fuss and will generally prevent last night from hurting him much. Abortion is politics. If you think it isn't you're either a man or an rear end in a top hat
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