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Alan_Shore posted:Even Michael Bay doesn't have gently caress tons of swearing and racist language everywhere. Counterpoint: racist caricatures Skids and Mudflap.
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Pick posted:optimus prime rips off the head of a man begging for his life :Ultra Magnus writhes on the ground, his mechanical innards sparking and spraying viscous liquids:  No! You dont understand the sacrifices... I did it all for your freedoms!:Optane Optimus Prime leaps in the air, thrusting his warblade into his fallen, helpless opponent's eye. A brutal twist decapitates his foe. The spark of life leaves his eyes:  Freedom is the right of all sentient beings... :he discards the dead head like trash: bitch
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Jul 8, 2018 19:51
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There's a scene where some Autobots come across an unknown alien creature that's been locked in a cage. They mock it and call it ugly. It spits goo on them, so they kill it and call it bitch. That is in no way exaggerated. These are the good guys.
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Jul 8, 2018 20:11
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Pick posted:optimus prime rips off the head of a man begging for his life After which Megatron (with a half busted face himself) slinks away, uttering "...this is no Prime" just barely audible above the movie's soundtrack in a later movie, Megatron is the only character to offer peace because as he explains, all he cares about is saving his homeworld. Optimus promptly puts an axe through his face before ripping his head off with it, dooming his home and turning whatever survivors of their race remain into refugees There is so much insane barely hidden subtext in those movies to unpack I still can't decide how much if any of it was deliberate and don't fully know what to make of them, but as a result at this point I believe they're more worthwhile to pick apart than any Trek project since 1999
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Jul 8, 2018 20:13
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Megatron Did Nothing Wrong.
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Jul 8, 2018 20:58
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This is where we repeat the call to Hasbro for transforming starships. 
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Jul 8, 2018 21:02
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Hasbro now owns the following transforming starship
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Jul 8, 2018 21:18
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Alan_Shore posted:Even Michael Bay doesn't have gently caress tons of swearing and racist language everywhere. I'd love for Tarantino to challenge himself and try to do genuine Star Trek, let's hope he's up for the challenge. "petaQ" is revealed to be the Klingon n-word and is dropped more times in one movie than in all of the rest of Trek up to that point
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Jul 8, 2018 23:00
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Better watch out, or Harmony Gold USA will come after you, they actually sued Hasbro over GI Joe / Transformers toys because their opinion is that if your property even slightly resembles anything in Super Dimension Fortress Macross / Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross / Genesis Climber Mospeada, you're violating their copyright. And SDF Macross prominently figures a starship that transforms from a ship-like configuration into a giant humanoid robot with arms and legs.. (Their lawsuit was dismissed with prejudice..) Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Jul 8, 2018 |
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Jul 8, 2018 23:02
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Wasn't the autobot plane guy, jetfire I think, basically a reskinned macross toy? I mean, good on them for saving money on manufacturing and product design, I guess.
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Jul 8, 2018 23:07
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ashpanash posted:Wasn't the autobot plane guy, jetfire I think, basically a reskinned macross toy? I mean, good on them for saving money on manufacturing and product design, I guess. That toy was loving awesome, regardless. Jesus, something that well made today would probably cost $300 at least
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Jul 9, 2018 00:02
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ashpanash posted:Wasn't the autobot plane guy, jetfire I think, basically a reskinned macross toy? I mean, good on them for saving money on manufacturing and product design, I guess. I'm not sure it was even reskinned. It was straight-up a Valkyrie.
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Jul 9, 2018 00:55
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Sash! posted:I'm not sure it was even reskinned. It was straight-up a Valkyrie.
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Jul 9, 2018 03:36
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Astroman posted:Megatron Did Nothing Wrong.
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Jul 9, 2018 05:26
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just watched Wrath of Khan twice in a row, and I have only one question Why the gently caress did Scotty bring that burned guy up to the bridge? He wasn't even dead. Scotty picked this dude up from Engineering and hauled rear end to the bridge instead of the medbay just for the drama
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Jul 9, 2018 05:56
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Jul 9, 2018 05:59
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Low Desert Punk posted:just watched Wrath of Khan twice in a row, and I have only one question Serious answer: I think he was in shock from grief and his body was on autopilot, so he brought him up to the bridge. The expanded version of the movie clarifies that Preston was his nephew.
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Jul 9, 2018 06:04
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Low Desert Punk posted:just watched Wrath of Khan twice in a row, and I have only one question A deleted scene that really should have been kept has Scotty introducing the kid to Kirk as his nephew. As for why he hauled the body all the way up instead of saying something, I dunno, insert some 80s vaguely racist saying about how passionate Scotsmen are?
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Jul 9, 2018 06:06
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It's pretty much shock since it was his nephew.
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Jul 9, 2018 06:12
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Movie McCoy’s also the only doc who’s constantly on the bridge instead of sickbay, so I’m sure it made sense in Scotty’s shocked brain.
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Jul 9, 2018 07:03
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I just realized something. If The Voyage Home McCoy had that moment where he speaks to the computer today, the engineer would've only corrected him by saying which name to use.
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Jul 9, 2018 07:25
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Did you guys ever stop to think that maybe the elevator got busted during the battle
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Jul 9, 2018 07:39
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Tighclops posted:Did you guys ever stop to think that maybe the elevator got busted during the battle if the elevator was busted how did he get to the bridge from engineering carrying a lanky unconscious white boy
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Jul 9, 2018 07:47
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Low Desert Punk posted:if the elevator was busted how did he get to the bridge from engineering carrying a lanky unconscious white boy maybe the tube got hosed up somewhere and the elevator could only go to the bridge after a certain point in the system
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Jul 9, 2018 07:48
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Low Desert Punk posted:if the elevator was busted how did he get to the bridge from engineering carrying a lanky unconscious white boy Carried him through the jeffries tubes with his mouth by the nape of his neck, like a mother cat carries her kitten.
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Jul 9, 2018 07:49
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Scotty was going to sickbay but the turbolift decided to randomly go to the bridge first because it uses the same Intelligent Elevator Management System™ that my office uses.
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Jul 9, 2018 11:24
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Scotty: oh God, computer! Med bay, and step on it!! Lift: an outranking officer has requested the lift on the bridge. Next destination: bridge. Scotty: no! Christ no! Med bay, medical emergency override! Lift: chief medical officer McCoy has overridden override. Next destination: bridge.
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Tighclops posted:maybe the tube got hosed up somewhere and the elevator could only go to the bridge after a certain point in the system Hey, I'll buy it. The lift to the bridge would have to have all sorts of backups and protections, if only because no one thought to include a stairwell or ladder to deck 1, thus leaving an incredibly important location on the ship critically dependent on a functioning elevator. So maybe the bridge was the only functional destination in the saucer, and the closest Scotty could get to sickbay. And I've just realized there's canonical support for my dumb joke -- after Kirk and company beam up from the Genesis cave, the turbolifts are "inoperative below C deck". See, all sorts of extra protection for the bridge elevators!
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Jul 9, 2018 17:11
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Maybe Scotty thought Peter was dead and wanted to show Kirk just how bad he'd hosed up this time. 
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Jul 9, 2018 17:23
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I've seen people mention that before, but it seems very out of character for Scotty, shock or not. Scotty has never been critical of Kirk's command, and there isn't even any protest from him about responding to the distress call in the first place.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Maybe Scotty thought Peter was dead and wanted to show Kirk just how bad he'd hosed up this time. It's been AGES since I've read anything except the actual shooting script, but I believe it's a relic from a prior draft. Kirk says, "Let's go see how badly we've been hurt," and the idea is that he and Spock are going to go tour the ship and inspect damage, finding Preston and Scotty in Sickbay. Meyer decided that the movie didn't need that sort of a connective sequence, hence Scotty getting routed to the bridge. (Let's be fair, it's not the first, nor the last, time Meyer would cheat like that.) As for an in-universe reason ... I got gently caress-all. Main power was lost so all bridge turbolifts were routed up there in the event of the need of evacuation, because Trek has always fetishized the command crew? Hell if I know.
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Jul 9, 2018 18:37
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I must need to rewatch that movie, because I seriously have always thought he was dead.
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Jul 9, 2018 18:37
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:I must need to rewatch that movie, because I seriously have always thought he was dead. In Sickbay, Preston asks Kirk to "give the word," to which Kirk responds, "warp speed," before finally carking it, prompting Scotty's brief outburst.
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Jul 9, 2018 18:40
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:dear mr. and mrs. cadetparents,
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:I must need to rewatch that movie, because I seriously have always thought he was dead. Nah, they wind up in sickbay later, where Preston grabs Kirk's hand and asks him to give the word, then dies, and McCoy pulls a shiny space blanket over him, while Scotty laments. "He stayed at his post, while the trainees a-ran....." I know that some versions had a line during the engine room inspection where Scotty identifies the kid as his sister's son, but I don't remember if it was in the original theatrical version, or the TV/Home Video recut. "Midshipman, you're a tiger." "My sister's youngest, Admiral. Crazy to get to space."
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Imagine informing some poor kid's parents that he or she died via bisection due to some ridiculously slowly closing blast door.TheCenturion posted:I know that some versions had a line during the engine room inspection where Scotty identifies the kid as his sister's son, but I don't remember if it was in the original theatrical version, or the TV/Home Video recut. "Midshipman, you're a tiger." "My sister's youngest, Admiral. Crazy to get to space." Scotty's little outburst is in every version. The extended engine room scene was first seen in the ABC-TV cut, then on the Director's Edition DVD and Blu-rays. However, Preston being Scotty's nephew was used in the DC Comics material from that time period.
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Timby posted:It's been AGES since I've read anything except the actual shooting script, but I believe it's a relic from a prior draft. Kirk says, "Let's go see how badly we've been hurt," and the idea is that he and Spock are going to go tour the ship and inspect damage, finding Preston and Scotty in Sickbay. Meyer decided that the movie didn't need that sort of a connective sequence, hence Scotty getting routed to the bridge. (Let's be fair, it's not the first, nor the last, time Meyer would cheat like that.) I was being facetious. I think honestly that scene should just be treated as one of the more operatic moments of space opera. TheCenturion posted:I know that some versions had a line during the engine room inspection where Scotty identifies the kid as his sister's son, but I don't remember if it was in the original theatrical version, or the TV/Home Video recut. "Midshipman, you're a tiger." "My sister's youngest, Admiral. Crazy to get to space." It wasn't in the theatrical nor most home video versions, but the Director's Cut has it put back in. I can see why it might have been removed, although having seen it, its absence is a bit jarring to me when I can see how they cut around it.
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Oh yeah, that's right. It's really been a long time since I've seen it, haha.
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