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Arven posted:Uh... have you ever met anyone who conceal/open carries? I'm in Pennsyltucky and I have in-laws do who this poo poo. They're white, though, so... This shooting was in California.
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Arven posted:Uh... have you ever met anyone who conceal/open carries? I'm in Pennsyltucky and I have in-laws do who this poo poo. They're white, though, so... Your in-laws are redneck as gently caress. That's a lovely idea and if their gun is that uncomfortable they need to rethink their gear. Hell, I used to carry a full size 1911 because it was narrower than the Beretta, and I would never just leave it on my loving lap.
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Mar 30, 2019 17:27
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We had open carry recently until some idiot chuds started aggravating soccer moms in Starbucks.
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Godholio posted:You know what I do when I'm driving around, as a person with a concealed carry permit, collection of firearms, and living in an open carry state? Roll around with a gun in my lap as I go through the drive thru. He was parked outside. Asleep.
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Mar 30, 2019 17:38
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I just remember the guy who was practicing his open carry rights by holding his loaded ar15 at a low ready walking around atl airport to pick up his daughter going home.
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Mar 30, 2019 18:16
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CommieGIR posted:He was parked outside. Asleep. He was passed out in the drive thru with his car in drive.
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Mar 30, 2019 18:24
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Sometimes cops kill* potentially intoxicated white women in cars too. https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article152189977.html Cop let obviously hosed up girl leave in her car without a sobriety test with a verbal advisory that she pull off and "collect herself" after she was driving the wrong way down the road at 4:30 AM. She drove into the Missouri river and died with alcohol, coke, and amphetamines in her system. *spare me, please
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Mar 30, 2019 18:28
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strange how our roving death squads routinely place themselves into positions where the only option their coward brains have left is to blast their way out
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Mar 30, 2019 18:49
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Stravag posted:I just remember the guy who was practicing his open carry rights by holding his loaded ar15 at a low ready walking around atl airport to pick up his daughter going home. Oh man I'm getting reminded of that idiot that open carried a rifle into a police station and got lovely when they put his rear end on the ground MUH RUGHTS
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Mar 30, 2019 19:28
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P Barnes is a national treasure.
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Mar 30, 2019 19:47
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Untagged posted:P Barnes is a national treasure.  : you’re blocking my freedom of movement  : yes, I am.
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Mar 30, 2019 19:55
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Proud Christian Mom posted:strange how our roving death squads routinely place themselves into positions where the only option their coward brains have left is to blast their way out It's been copsplained several times how police have the agency of an abused six year old while those urban ferals are making several decisions to die every second. The guy was dead set on dying. It was inevitable.
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Mar 30, 2019 20:25
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Random dudes you just woke up aren’t john wick. A sleepy, groggy, and potentially smacked out person isn’t going to quick draw and shoot six people through a glass window before they could react. That was a bad shoot. There is no justification.
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Mar 30, 2019 20:28
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Mr. Nice! posted:Random dudes you just woke up aren’t john wick. A sleepy, groggy, and potentially smacked out person isn’t going to quick draw and shoot six people through a glass window before they could react. When you wake people up their arms move. Strange but true
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Mar 30, 2019 20:57
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Guess we just have to let potential bad guys shoot first.
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Mar 30, 2019 20:59
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Godholio posted:Guess we just have to let potential bad guys shoot first. Yep. Guilty until proven innocent
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Mar 30, 2019 21:06
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Godholio posted:Guess we just have to let potential bad guys shoot first. What a shame it was that this was such a high pressure and time sensitive situation that required an immediate aggressive response because lives were at risk. If the cops hadn't decided to confront that man at that time in that drive through, think of all the danger that was presented. Just think of who that man could have hurt! I mean, all of his life choices up to that point led him to that situation. He practically had the gun to his own head and pulled the trigger. 24 times, was it?
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Mar 30, 2019 21:09
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So if the cops didn’t decide to kill the guy once they saw what was going on, what options did the victim have to survive the encounter?
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Mar 30, 2019 21:11
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Godholio posted:Guess we just have to let potential bad guys shoot first. Well if we did that cops would be shooting people left and right. Oh wait. Edit: they should really just make it a blanket ruling that its an unjustified shoot until the first cop gets hit. The sudden rash of cop on on cop shooting so they can justify killing someone would be impressive. Stravag fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Mar 30, 2019 |
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Mar 30, 2019 21:12
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I'd rather have entire police departments wiped out if it meant that people made it to trial instead of being murdered in the streets.
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Mar 30, 2019 21:16
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Godholio posted:Guess we just have to let potential bad guys shoot first. Yes, that's exactly how it should be. Cops putting their own safety above others' is a huge part of why things are so hosed right now. (Racism is the other part)
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Mar 30, 2019 21:19
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Fallom posted:So if the cops didn’t decide to kill the guy once they saw what was going on, what options did the victim have to survive the encounter? I guess he should have just not woken up. Or teleported himself out from under the gun into custody?
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Mar 30, 2019 21:22
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Fister Roboto posted:Yes, that's exactly how it should be. Cops putting their own safety above others' is a huge part of why things are so hosed right now. be the change you want to see
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Mar 30, 2019 21:24
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Godholio posted:be the change you want to see Could you elaborate on this, aside from being a smug turd about it maybe. Are you saying that we should join the departments in order to improve them from the inside? Otherwise I'm curious as to what you think Joe Rando outside of the department can do to fix the thin blue line sheepdog mentality.
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dscruffy1 posted:Could you elaborate on this, aside from being a smug turd about it maybe. This seems to be the thread for it. Two-three pages of "kill all cops" gets loving old every time the news grabs onto a shooting, whether its justified or not. Did this guy deserve to die? No. The thread seems pretty loving unanimous on that point. So let's just keep reiterating the same opinions. Edit: Content https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/30/politics/state-department-aid-el-slavador-guatemala-honduras/index.html Trump is accusing central american governments of "setting up" the migrant caravans, so we're cutting aid to those countries. Surely, this will stem the flow of desperate people trying to escape. Godholio fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Mar 30, 2019 |
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Mar 30, 2019 21:35
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Godholio posted:This seems to be the thread for it. Or hear me out Start actually convicting the cops. gently caress it. They can have their own loving prison that gets napalmed if the population gets too uppity.
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Mar 30, 2019 21:40
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Wasabi the J posted:Start actually convicting the cops. This is a reasonable statement. CommieGIR posted:Jesus, they executed the guy, and there wasnt even a magazine in the gun. This is not.
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Mar 30, 2019 21:43
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Cops trying to keep themselves alive by murdering potentially innocent civilians is insanely hosed up and wanting it to stop doesn't mean you lust for cop death. You probably shouldn't be trying to police the discussion on what counts as a "reasonable" opinion after dropping a bullshit bomb like that.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FYTc55nGEI
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Mar 30, 2019 21:51
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Godholio posted:This is not. Done being reasonable about the police response to black Americans, thanks. Ask for reasonable, and jack poo poo happens
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guys please stop offending the delicate sensibilities of people who think our roving death squads are acting in good faith
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Godholio posted:Guess we just have to let potential bad guys shoot first. yes
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Godholio posted:Guess we just have to let potential bad guys shoot first. I mean, when the ROE in a war zone is more restrictive than it is for a domestic police I think it's kind of hosed up
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Godholio posted:Guess we just have to let potential bad guys shoot first. Holy poo poo this is not some high intensity deployment combat scenario where you are looking to overmatch some hostile unit and get inside their OODA loop. This is a black man who is United States citizen civilian sitting in his car in McDonalds drive through in the continental United States, he has a firearm and is asleep. Dear loving god yes, you use restraint, which may let this civilian potentially get a shot off, instead of assuming his guilt and summarily executing him with your 6 surrounding police officers arrayed in a massively dominating position. Like even the way you phrased this is absolutely completely hosed up.
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Even then, in Combat its generally expected you only engage when engaged and when the target is a clear threat. Like, you know, not this situation. https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1111...ingawful.com%2F Uhhhhh....
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Mar 30, 2019 22:14
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Hmm yes being a cop where instead of putting myself in any danger I put others first as a matter of policy. Protect myself and serve maybe.
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This is just more evidence that cops are an occupying force and are also all bastards, really. There's no defense for what these murderers did because it's an obvious case of "gotta get home" thought which a cop categorically should not have if they were even ostensibly about the protections of the rights and safety of all citizens The only good cop isn't a cop anymore.
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Mar 30, 2019 22:17
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:I mean, when the ROE in a war zone is more restrictive than it is for a domestic police I think it's kind of hosed up Sure, so let's just keep loving repeating it in this thread.
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CommieGIR posted:Even then, in Combat its generally expected you only engage when engaged and when the target is a clear threat. After her sentence is completed, right? ....right?! 
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Mr Crustacean posted:Like even the way you phrased this is absolutely completely hosed up. Jesus Christ dude, I'm making GBS threads on a poo poo thread not advocating for whatever the gently caress.
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