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The RX-79s are trying their best, please be respectful of gundam's little siblings.
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Monaghan posted:It was more all the stuff like missles pods and strapped on guns and huge beam cannons strapped to the gundam in thunderbolt that just seemed out of place. Nothing in the OYW seems to have stuff like that. Thunderbolt takes place immediately before A Baoa Qu. The Thunderbolt Sector battle is important, in fact, because (a) it's being bankrolled by the wealthy, influential Moore Brotherhood, and (b) it's about securing a vital supply route for that final battle. That's why the Brotherhood gets so many cool toys headed to the A Baoa Qu front line, including a heavily-armed Gundam presumably intended for the White Base. They're supposed to roll through Side Four before meeting up with the main Federation fleet, and a bit of discreet bribery helped convince the Federation command they could do it. The FA-78, meanwhile, has nothing we haven't seen before in the One Year War. The twin beam guns seem to be taken from the G-Fighter, and the missile pods were premiered by Zeon aquatic suits like the Acguy and Z'gok. The only real innovation is what appears to be an extra power plant in the backpack to make the freakish monster go. It's the most dangerous Federation One Year War suit we ever see, but really not that nuts by end-of-war standards. In fact, it's not even that far off from Amuro's Gundam with the G-Armour - hell, you could even argue that it's just the two machines smushed together into a single-seater form. The Zaku Reuse [P], meanwhile, is the crappiest, most bargain-basement Zeon Newtype machine we ever see. It's even worse than the Braw Bro, in many ways.
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May 17, 2016 23:14
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I don't really get the obsession with canon in UC sidestories. How does lining up details with the original MSG produce a better story? If anything, I like it more when a sidestory plays modifies the core designs to fit its themes. The big advantage of the sidestories over AUs isn't continuity, but that every AU is obliged to tell the story of a teenager using their invincible killbot to single-handedly save humanity while the sidestories are free to tell stories that are more personal and local, where interplanetary war is treated as an unfathomable and impersonal force.
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May 18, 2016 00:03
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No love for the fight where the unnamed pilot saves the Federation?
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May 18, 2016 00:36
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Panzeh posted:No love for the fight where the unnamed pilot saves the Federation? cyclops team's luck finally ran out when they stumbled upon the only GM pilot in the whole Top Secret Arctic Base who had passed basic training
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May 18, 2016 02:00
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The scene in the first ep of Unicorn RE 0096 where Marida hears the Jegan pilot's dying thoughts wasn't in the original, right?
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May 18, 2016 04:16
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Yeah it was. Unless they expanded on it.
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May 18, 2016 04:22
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I guess I haven't watched Unicorn in awhile.
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May 18, 2016 04:23
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Anthrovore posted:cyclops team's luck finally ran out when they stumbled upon the only GM pilot in the whole Top Secret Arctic Base who had passed basic training I'm not sure he had either. Look at the guy. Not taking cover, wide continuous spray instead of short, controlled bursts, and he didn't kill Captain Hardy 30 seconds later despite having all the opportunity in the world to do so. But at least he managed to do his drat job. Few GM pilots can claim that honor.
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May 18, 2016 04:27
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chiasaur11 posted:I'm not sure he had either. Look at the guy. Not taking cover, wide continuous spray instead of short, controlled bursts, and he didn't kill Captain Hardy 30 seconds later despite having all the opportunity in the world to do so. Nah, the Federation won because of all the GM pilots that did their job. No more, no less.
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May 18, 2016 04:48
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Argas posted:Nah, the Federation won because of all the GM pilots that did their job. No more, no less. Fair. I should say on screen GM pilots who did their job. Mostly, they tend to die to the last without accomplishing anything so the Gundam looks better. (Unless we're talking the White Dingos or similar, of course.)
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May 18, 2016 04:57
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chiasaur11 posted:Fair. They all seemed pretty competent in The Origin manga at least.
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May 18, 2016 05:17
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Neddy Seagoon posted:They all seemed pretty competent in The Origin manga at least. True enough. Which makes Char killing around a dozen of them solo much more impressive. The Origin really does a decent job of selling Char and Amuro as THE pilots of the One Year War.
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May 18, 2016 05:24
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boom boom boom posted:The scene in the first ep of Unicorn RE 0096 where Marida hears the Jegan pilot's dying thoughts wasn't in the original, right? I'm pretty sure it wasn't? The Jegan pilot was totally silent and nameless.
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May 18, 2016 08:38
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Lemon-Lime posted:I'm pretty sure it wasn't? The Jegan pilot was totally silent and nameless. No, he managed to get out a "drat sleeves" at least. ...At least, if we're talking Stark Jegan pilot.
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May 18, 2016 09:58
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chiasaur11 posted:No, he managed to get out a "drat sleeves" at least. Huh, you're right, I just rewatched the scene: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3f0gtx_kshatriya-stark-jegan_tv
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May 18, 2016 11:08
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Argas posted:Nah, the Federation won because of all the GM pilots that did their job. No more, no less. Well, the federation won the war on Earth with tanks and planes. The Zaku grunts were that bad.
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May 19, 2016 03:17
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chiasaur11 posted:I'm not sure he had either. Look at the guy. Not taking cover, wide continuous spray instead of short, controlled bursts, and he didn't kill Captain Hardy 30 seconds later despite having all the opportunity in the world to do so. Short, controlled bursts matters a lot for a fleshy human trying to handle a gun with muscle power but I doubt it's quite as necessary for a giant robot to keep a gun on target.
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May 19, 2016 03:46
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Kanos posted:Short, controlled bursts matters a lot for a fleshy human trying to handle a gun with muscle power but I doubt it's quite as necessary for a giant robot to keep a gun on target. Not necessarily. Projectiles at that scale are gonna have some nasty kickback, so it's possible (even just as a handwave) their arm servos cant mitigate it fully.
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May 19, 2016 03:51
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The big robot show made me sad I hate you war in the pocket  chiasaur11 posted:You're about to see proof that not all cool Zeon dudes pilot Goufs. You were right. God drat that was really really good. The antiwar stuff was done really well, like it does the typical "showing the horrors of war" thing but giving you the kids as viewpoint characters who just see all those "horrors" as awesome makes it so much more effective. You did surprisingly well there Bernie for being a complee rookie... 
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May 19, 2016 06:54
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PBS Newshour posted:The big robot show made me sad I hate you war in the pocket It was surprisingly not-hamhanded about the anti-war stuff too. The main soldiers on both sides were heroic, there was mention that, under certain circumstances, war can be a tragic necessity, and both Chris and Bernie legitimately felt that their jobs were things that needed to be done. It's just, you know. War is a horrible meatgrinder where good people kill each other, often for no real benefit to anyone. Buy our model kits, kids?
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May 19, 2016 09:08
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Panzeh posted:Well, the federation won the war on Earth with tanks and planes. The Zaku grunts were that bad. They weren't that bad, the Feds had a lot more tanks and aircraft compared to MS. Bit hard to fight when you're that out numbered.
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May 19, 2016 11:55
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It takes a whole lot of tanks and planes to be able to put down a mobile suit.
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May 19, 2016 15:53
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Kanos posted:It takes a whole lot of tanks and planes to be able to put down a mobile suit. Well, they were a bunch of city-states fighting a planet. Also, they had minimal experience with ground combat, which resulted in a bunch of bad designs (they never built a plane that could challenge Federation air superiority) and tactical disasters.
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May 19, 2016 15:57
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Urg, made a mistake with my order of Gunpla Breaker 3, it's the Vita version. The eBay outfit I wen't through don't have the right version for PS4, but at least take returns. I think I'll need to wait a month for Play-Asia now. Pisses me off, was really looking forward to that.
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May 19, 2016 17:51
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Finished Thunderbolt. Crazy little mini-series. Io was an rear end in a top hat but also respectable in that he knew the score as soon as he jumped in a mobile suit. At least it seemed that way. Daryl was pitiable, because  at sacrificing your limbs for Zeon. Felt bad for Dr. Karla and the Captain. Not a fan of their use in this. For that matter, was the captain shot or the window behind her shot? I never got a good look.
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May 20, 2016 19:17
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Shinjobi posted:Finished Thunderbolt. Crazy little mini-series. Io was an rear end in a top hat but also respectable in that he knew the score as soon as he jumped in a mobile suit. At least it seemed that way. It's left deliberately ambiguous. The reason why may show up in the extra footage in December Sky.
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May 20, 2016 19:45
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Oh. Nifty!
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May 20, 2016 20:47
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As much I thought thunderbolt was kinda meh that scene with the camera targeting the Zeon guys holding the bomb was memorable. Haven't had a scene like that since v gundam.
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May 20, 2016 22:06
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I'm watching 83 now even though I guess it suppose to be kinda bad but the music seems really good so far and its neat seeing Zakus piloted by non Zeon folks.
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May 20, 2016 23:17
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PBS Newshour posted:I'm watching 83 now even though I guess it suppose to be kinda bad but the music seems really good so far and its neat seeing Zakus piloted by non Zeon folks. 0083 is beautifully animated and has an amazing soundtrack.
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May 20, 2016 23:27
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Kanos posted:0083 is beautifully animated and has an amazing soundtrack. Yeah, it seems to be pretty much just dripping with style so far, so I am probably going to stick with it for just that. I really like how, what I think is the Rick Dom, is sliding around all over the place, it really reminds me of playing Cybernator.
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May 20, 2016 23:33
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Preview of the IBO dub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1CxJVWHE_o
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May 21, 2016 00:27
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Not really feeling that dub, based on that clip at least.
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May 21, 2016 00:31
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Raxivace posted:Not really feeling that dub, based on that clip at least. Yeah, same. Also at Maruba pronouncing it "Gallerhorn."
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May 21, 2016 00:39
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Nobody will ever fault 0083 for its animation or soundtrack. They're both fantastic. Just try to ignore those idiots talking in between the fight scenes and you'll enjoy it just fine.
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May 21, 2016 00:41
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The animation is fluid as hell but I've always found a lot of the choreography behind most of the fights to be pretty lacking
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May 21, 2016 00:44
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I find it ridiculous how Kou rationalizes helping rebuild a Zeon Mobile Armor because he feels pity for a bitter man who had to stop being a pilot. Yeah, great rationale for building a weapon that could potentially slaughter thousands.
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May 21, 2016 01:03
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Dub sounds fine, they even got Steve Staley for his eighth gundam series role.
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Eh, I'm not a fan of Steve Staley. I mean, he's perfect for arrogant teenage protagonist, but I find his voice a little too forced.
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