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7 track rule really helped focus the Push and Cudi projects, works to Kanye's advantage too. I also appreciate them in the era of everyone stream-gaming with 100 minute albums
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7 tracks works when you are making albums in 2 weeks too.
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I think it varies based on the album. Like with the new gibbs its like 20 something minutes and it feels too short, theres just not enough of him actually rapping. But for Ye I think the short length works in its favor as its a very cohesive project with little filler compared to say tlop which is 20 songs and kind of scattershot. I also think the same applies to Daytona, which is much cleaner and listenable for me than mnimn
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Jun 25, 2018 18:15
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focused only matters when its good and focused. these albums arent good enough for 7 tracks to stand on their own
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There's a happy medium to be had. 7 can work if it's really good, but like, the new Jedi Mind Tricks (to bring up something someone mentioned last page) is 19 songs. NOPE. Sorry, you sound way too same-y to put 19 god drat songs on a record, Vinnie Paz (I have a nostalgic sweet spot for JMT from the early 2000s and like some of the more recent stuff but I was too bored to finish the new one)
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Jun 25, 2018 18:22
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temple posted:these albums arent good enough for 7 tracks to stand on their own 
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Jun 25, 2018 18:23
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temple posted:focused only matters when its good and focused. these albums arent good enough for 7 tracks to stand on their own Daytona and Kids See Ghosts are laser-focused, ksg especially benefits from not having any filler. at least 3 of the 5 albums pulled it off imo (haven’t listened to teyana yet but it seems chill), and i personal preferred Ye’s run time to Life of Pablo’s bloat
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Jun 25, 2018 18:29
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Vargatron posted:gently caress I'm on a Yung Lean/Sadboys tip. pls send help listen to bladee and drain gang I did 2x 12hr car rides in the past week and listened to all of bladees poo poo and all of yung leans poo poo. Stranger is a really incredible album, produced so well (and I don't mean the beats, yung lean has always had incredible music).
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temple posted:focused only matters when its good and focused. these albums arent good enough for 7 tracks to stand on their own temple was right
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I like the new death grips album. But I agree with the poster from a couple pages ago, it's more of a noise/experimental/lo-fi/etc rock album. Which I am a fan of in general but I can definitely understand it's cold reception here as a rap album release.
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Mao Zedong Thot posted:listen to bladee and drain gang drain gang is the bankroll mafia of sweden qtiyd
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Wamsutta posted:There's a happy medium to be had. 7 can work if it's really good, but like, the new Jedi Mind Tricks (to bring up something someone mentioned last page) is 19 songs. NOPE. Sorry, you sound way too same-y to put 19 god drat songs on a record, Vinnie Paz (I have a nostalgic sweet spot for JMT from the early 2000s and like some of the more recent stuff but I was too bored to finish the new one) Not that you're wrong about album length--to me around 10 actual-tracks is the sweet-spot for a lot of rap records.
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A concise number of tracks on an album doesn't mean anything when we listen to everything by singles or playlists. 7 tracks for a more focused album is irrelevant. If an album is 5 tracks or 40 tracks long the only thing that matters are the good songs to take and put into playlists. As noted above, there's barely any Gibbs rapping on his album. I'd much rather the album be 20 songs and I can choose which songs are "bad" or "good" and put them on my playlist accordingly.
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temple posted:focused only matters when its good and focused. these albums arent good enough for 7 tracks to stand on their own
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:A concise number of tracks on an album doesn't mean anything when we listen to everything by singles or playlists. 7 tracks for a more focused album is irrelevant. If an album is 5 tracks or 40 tracks long the only thing that matters are the good songs to take and put into playlists. thats a dumb take, you think everything should be like more life and mixtapes? I listen to albums all the time, esp in older music. just because the way music is consumed popularly has changed somewhat in recent times doesnt mean the concept of an album needs to die
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:A concise number of tracks on an album doesn't mean anything when we listen to everything by singles or playlists. 7 tracks for a more focused album is irrelevant. If an album is 5 tracks or 40 tracks long the only thing that matters are the good songs to take and put into playlists. do you like only listen to music at the gym or something
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Tolkien minority posted:thats a dumb take, you think everything should be like more life and mixtapes? I listen to albums all the time, esp in older music. just because the way music is consumed popularly has changed somewhat in recent times doesnt mean the concept of an album needs to die Yes, more music from the musicians we like listening to is a good thing.
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Jun 25, 2018 18:55
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to be pedantic, KTSE is 8 tracks. also I like it mostly
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:Yes, more music from the musicians we like listening to is a good thing. Only if it's all good
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Jun 25, 2018 19:08
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when i have sex, i only use the first 7 inches of dick. cause nobody needs all 12-15
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Jun 25, 2018 19:10
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My dick is a lot like ye... Short and bad 
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Henchman of Santa posted:Only if it's all good "Good" is subjective. Providing more music provides more opportunity for people to find music they think is good. Plus, there's no guarantee that the trimmed down album of 7 tracks is "all good" either.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:"Good" is subjective. Providing more music provides more opportunity for people to find music they think is good. I mean statistically, a slimmer album is far more likely to be "all good" than a 90 minute album. I really appreciate listening to an entire album at once, and if half of the tracks are "meh" or don't feel like they fit, my overall listening experience is going to be worse. When an album is really long without being cohesive, it makes me feel like the artist wasn't clear on the direction or vision of the album and instead just threw a bunch of poo poo at the wall to see what sticks. I trust an artist to put out projects that feel like complete ideas, and don't feel like I should have to make a trimmed down playlist of an album to enjoy it.
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At first I was so hyped for these projects but then after ye the hype died down. KSG and Daytona are the good albums. KTSE is pretty good but I only heard it once so far We really did not need that Nas album. Nas sounds so loving bored, his lyrics are honestly as bad if not worse than Kanye on ye.
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Jun 25, 2018 19:54
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the moaning on hurry makes me unironically uncomfortable its worse than that sketch on ready to die
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The REAL Goobusters posted:At first I was so hyped for these projects but then after ye the hype died down. Pretty much same here. I really enjoy Daytona and KSG though and they will be in rotation for a long time. Only track I like on Nasir is Cops Shot the Kid because it actually sounds interesting compared to the rest of that snoozefest. I think I’m more disappointed in ye because even though Pablo was a mess in release, it still gave us some absolutely memorable tracks like Real Friends and Ultralight Beam. I just don’t feel that way about anything on ye.
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MrSargent posted:Pretty much same here. I really enjoy Daytona and KSG though and they will be in rotation for a long time. Echo that sentiment, and I secretly still like Pablo even with all the messyness and changes. If we could have gotten the original Waves version though...wooooooow that would have been a super classic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqZYJ-NVQhI
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40 lbs to freedom posted:the song donglover copied is fire honestly His albums are on Spotify and I've been enjoying them so I guess thanks to dong for that?
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Jun 25, 2018 20:46
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rewind the thread to the last donglover battle for laughs thanks
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Yuzenn posted:Echo that sentiment, and I secretly still like Pablo even with all the messyness and changes. If we could have gotten the original Waves version though...wooooooow that would have been a super classic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqZYJ-NVQhI Yah I secretly, or not so secretly love Pablo. I frequently go back to the whole album and I'm pretty sure I have listened to Real Friends at least once a week since I first heard it.
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no more parties in la is secret top-tier
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I maybe missed this but here's a new exquire song, the first peek at future AOTY BLACK GENIUS??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxuHPL0w_ZU Robert Analog fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Jun 25, 2018 |
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Ultraklystron posted:It's incredibly similar in the ways that matter, I'm just wondering when Gambino or his producer would've heard it, as apparently it only had 500ish views before someone noticed the parallels. If that can be pieced together, that's everything. Gambino's manager claims that Glover started working on TIA 3 years ago (Predating the Jase Harley track). Sometimes thinks are just down to parallel thinking, but there are times when the two tracks sounds real similar, particularly in their delivery. I don't think that Glover, like, maliciously took anything from that track at all, but I have to believe he heard it at some point.
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MrSargent posted:Yah I secretly, or not so secretly love Pablo. I frequently go back to the whole album and I'm pretty sure I have listened to Real Friends at least once a week since I first heard it.  I still bump my copy of Pablo 1.0 regularly. gently caress the latest version that's on all the streaming services though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRKriSNJlyg Not sure this is the best representation of Brockhampton's sound as a whole, but it's still cool nevertheless.
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DrVenkman posted:Gambino's manager claims that Glover started working on TIA 3 years ago (Predating the Jase Harley track). Sometimes thinks are just down to parallel thinking, but there are times when the two tracks sounds real similar, particularly in their delivery. There are way too many similarities between the two tracks for me to believe that Glover never heard it. The timing of the track is also suspicious to me; the Jase Harley track dropped in March 2016, which would have been around the time Glover was finishing work on Awaken My Love (which was announced in the summer and released in late fall) and would have started to work on ideas for the next album. I find it really hard to believe that Donald Glover somehow managed to recreate someone else's song completely by accident without hearing it even once within the two years he was writing and recording his new album, especially when he has a history of making extremely derivative music and straight-up biting specific P-Funk songs on his last album.
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He absolutely cribbed that song and you are niave if you think otherwise.
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Vargatron posted:gently caress I'm on a Yung Lean/Sadboys tip. pls send help most of yung lean's albums are actually decent, the production is just really nice and he's got his own lane where i don't think he's "good" but he's adding to the tracks. rest of the sadboys dudes though are p much just worse versions of lean imo. Robert Analog posted:I maybe missed this but here's a new exquire song, the first peek at future AOTY BLACK GENIUS??? and the glover thing is funny, but as others have said, there's like nothing more america than some rich dude taking someone else's poo poo and making a ton of money so it's pretty accurate.
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The artist himself is just glad to have inspired great work and isn't about going after gambino and just hopes no one loses sight of the message in the songs. Sounds like a good dude.
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