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WickedHate posted:I...think I'll just get the SBX. He's serious, though. Building your own PC is actually pretty easy these days. The first time is always intimidating: you'll worry a lot about accidentally breaking a piece of your thousand-dollar investment, and you gotta play around in the BIOS a little bit, but there are very hand-holdy walkthroughs online for setting all that up. After that, though, you already know how to choose modern (and reasonably-priced) parts and you know how to put one together fairly quickly. I'm not gonna say you can do it blindfolded and you'll always worry about your hardware a certain amount, but I built my first in 2011 and I've since become comfortable enough to build setups for my buddies without worrying too much that I'm gonna ruin equipment that doesn't even belong to me. It sounds herculean, but in reality, this is 2015. There's no reason you shouldn't be able to build (or replace parts in) a computer as readily as you can do everyday maintenance on home appliances and plumbing and poo poo.
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I heard that the Alienware Steam Machine is actually a pretty good deal for $475 considering the parts and the form factor. But you probably shouldn't buy a dual core PC with only four gigs of RAM if you're going to play games past 2013.
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If you want to make your own PC but don't like reading up on the compatibility of different parts just use Logical Increments. Then you can put the thing together like you're assembling a lego set and be and feel smarter for it. Don't buy a Steambox for no reason.
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You probably have an experienced friend who will help you build a computer in exchange for pizza, beer and/or oral sex. If you're willing to deal with not being able to send the entire machine back to the store with a post-it reading "fix me" on the side, building a PC is cheap and easy. And it sets you up for incremental upgrades later. If the repair and warranty thing is a deal-breaker, that's fine. Hunting down the causes of a problem, tearing out the offending part, and getting it RMAed can be a giant pain in the rear end. Just be aware that you're paying a lot to avoid that. Male Man fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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The White Dragon posted:He's serious, though. Building your own PC is actually pretty easy these days.
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Thanks for this! Had SRHD on my wishlist for a while
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The White Dragon posted:He's serious, though. Building your own PC is actually pretty easy these days. The first time is always intimidating: you'll worry a lot about accidentally breaking a piece of your thousand-dollar investment, and you gotta play around in the BIOS a little bit, but there are very hand-holdy walkthroughs online for setting all that up. After that, though, you already know how to choose modern (and reasonably-priced) parts and you know how to put one together fairly quickly. I'm not gonna say you can do it blindfolded and you'll always worry about your hardware a certain amount, but I built my first in 2011 and I've since become comfortable enough to build setups for my buddies without worrying too much that I'm gonna ruin equipment that doesn't even belong to me. I've been building machines for about a decade now and i still get anxious when hitting that power button for the first time. It's just something that comes with the territory of heavy investment, but the thing is, they've always worked every time. All you need is advice on which parts to get and then to follow the instructions that come with the components. We've got a subforum here dedicated to parts advice which has never steered me wrong and the instructions for components are written in a fairly simply to understand way. Get a PC buddy to help you with your first build and then just take it from there. Every machine is generally built in exactly the same way so once you've built one you can build them all.
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i've never seen a prefab pc that wasnt the customer getting bent over and assfucked and those steam machines are no exception. i dont understand it. they know im using a pc to look at their product, they list the loving specs, they know googling that poo poo takes me like 3 clicks and somehow they think the 'service' of assembly is worth hundreds of dollars and locking myself into hardware thats outdated now, 8 months before they can even sell it to me.
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Male Man posted:You probably have an experienced friend who will help you build a computer in exchange for pizza, beer and/or oral sex. If you're willing to deal with not being able to send the entire machine back to the store with a post-it reading "fix me" on the side, building a PC is cheap and easy. And it sets you up for incremental upgrades later. I would pay $200 not to felate a goon honestly
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Sinking Ship posted:i've never seen a prefab pc that wasnt the customer getting bent over and assfucked and those steam machines are no exception. i dont understand it. they know im using a pc to look at their product, they list the loving specs, they know googling that poo poo takes me like 3 clicks and somehow they think the 'service' of assembly is worth hundreds of dollars and locking myself into hardware thats outdated now, 8 months before they can even sell it to me. You're basically paying for the convenience and the brand. There is a definitely-not-small number of people who don't care about the specifics of the inside of their computer and whether they're getting a legitimate deal on it or not. Unfortunately those people allow stuff like Alienware PCs and Steamboxes to have a market to sell to. Valve basically made Steam into a game console with the Steambox and while that is brilliant, it also gives them free reign to mark up the price as they wish because it's, again, the price of convenience.
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Male Man posted:You probably have an experienced friend who will help you build a computer in exchange for pizza, beer and/or oral sex. I can't even afford pizza or beer most days. I'm just glad this is coming out near Christmas.
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Sinking Ship posted:i've never seen a prefab pc that wasnt the customer getting bent over and assfucked and those steam machines are no exception. i dont understand it. they know im using a pc to look at their product, they list the loving specs, they know googling that poo poo takes me like 3 clicks and somehow they think the 'service' of assembly is worth hundreds of dollars and locking myself into hardware thats outdated now, 8 months before they can even sell it to me. The hardware in a PS4 or Xbox 1 is ridiculously overpriced too. These machines are not meant for people who have been picking their own custom parts for 10 years. As for construction I'm fairly comfortable putting together a PC and the last two I've bought I still paid someone $50 to build it for me because 
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The White Dragon posted:Maybe my family is living in the stone age Get your poo poo together The White Dragon.  For reals though I've wanted a cheap PC to put in my living room and if the SteamLink thing works then sign me up. Also building PCs is easy. The one I'm using now is the first one I'd built in forever, and the only one I've built by myself. I had a few anxious spots of "is this the right amount of force to seat this thing?" and "I hope this is the right spot for this cable" but it's pretty simple. I could be wrong but I think all the cables are keyed a way now that it's near impossible to put them in the wrong spot and all the components are the same way.
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Quest For Glory II posted:Humble Weekly
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Kibayasu posted:The hardware in a PS4 or Xbox 1 is ridiculously overpriced too.
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Awesome! posted:the ps4 isnt terrible actually. when it launched you couldnt build a comparable pc for cheaper Two days later though.
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Paracelsus posted:Is Neverending Nightmares at all decent? It doesn't look that impressive from the trailer. It has a great art style and a nice atmosphere going for it, with a couple of moments that made me want to cringe or scream. There's a stealth section near the end (unless it's exclusive to a path, oh right - the game has multiple branches) that was really annoying, and I eventually got frustrated at how the wheezy slow rear end protagonist runs out of breath quickly. CJacobs posted:If you want to make your own PC but don't like reading up on the compatibility of different parts just use Logical Increments. Then you can put the thing together like you're assembling a lego set and be and feel smarter for it. Don't buy a Steambox for no reason. Yeah, looking at it here the lowest spec of the Alienware SM, it seems similar to the "modest build" here for $411, except the Alienware has a better CPU and a really nice console style case. If the price:power ratio scales this way up to the other three builds then that's not a bad value. Automata 10 Pack fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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WickedHate posted:I...think I'll just get the SBX. If you can use a screwdriver and also tie your own shoes, you can put a PC together. Can you use a screwdriver, and also tie your own shoes? Depending on the case you get, you might not even need the screwdriver. Check the parts thread in the SH/SC subforum here on SA to learn what parts to buy.
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Cathair posted:If you can use a screwdriver and also tie your own shoes, you can put a PC together. Maybe, I haven't tried much, and no.
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I assembled my PC for the first time a year ago and it was fairly easy. Just make sure the fan on your CPU works immediately (or else it'll literally melt) and that you don't build up static while touching electronic components on hardware by making sure you are electrically grounded, I bought an anti-static wrist strap just to be sure. As far as I know those are the only two mistakes you can make that could potentially wreck hardware.
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i just dread building a pc and then it not working and having to figure out that ram dimm slot 2 is bad and replace the motherboard and start all over the chance of that happening is small but it keeps me awake at night goons
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Any of the other games worth looking at? Blitzkrieg 1 looks like it might be a decent grog-lite RTS?
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WickedHate posted:I...think I'll just get the SBX. If you post your requirements (budget, desired FPS and monitor size) in the PC part picking thread people will spit out a list of components that will be definitely better than any ready-made PC. Also a while ago there was a guy like you who insisted on buying a prefab and people offered to build it for him and ship it for less than he wanted to pay for the original rip-off.
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lordfrikk posted:Also a while ago there was a guy like you who insisted on buying a prefab and people offered to build it for him and ship it for less than he wanted to pay for the original rip-off. Okay, now that does sound a lot easier.
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Awesome! posted:the ps4 isnt terrible actually. when it launched you couldnt build a comparable pc for cheaper The thing that keeps me up at night is good video games
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Closure: TN4M???-HEC33-4KF6H ??? = V
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DannyTanner posted:Closure: TN4M???-HEC33-4KF6H Thank you!
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:Any of the other games worth looking at? Blitzkrieg 1 looks like it might be a decent grog-lite RTS? I played Blitzkrieg back in like 2007 and had a lot of fun with it, though it did have some technical flaws and pathing issues. It's basically as you describe--a grog-lite RTS that's sort of a medium on the scale from Company of Heroes (game-y) to, say, Combat Mission (super-realistic). There's no base building, unit research, etc., just tactics, maneuver and artillery, which is godlike as it should be. There are campaigns for the Germans, Russians and Americans and I believe they all cover different periods of the war with period-accurate units for each. Not much in the way of story, though--you're basically playing a Greatest Hits of WWII anthology. The coolest thing I remember from it was just how much you could gently caress up the battlefield--at the end of a fight, especially an urban battle, the map will just be a smoking moonscape full of craters and wreckage and dead infantry sprites. Having gotten it again in the bundle I'm really curious to see how it holds up and how the sequel is. Phetz fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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Kin posted:I've been building machines for about a decade now and i still get anxious when hitting that power button for the first time. It's just something that comes with the territory of heavy investment, but the thing is, they've always worked every time. I feel that. The last one I put together was a real horror since I flipped the button and… nothing. It was 6 seconds of sheer panic until I realised the power cord wasn't properly seated. And then it worked. 
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Anyone feel like playing Superbrothers: Sword and Sworcery? Go *og wild! 94A*C-*MZGK-F86M4
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I've been feeling the urge to play a Call of Duty game on PC for a while. I really had a lot of fun with Black Ops 1 and have been trying to feel out just what is going on with CoD on PC lately. This is what I know so far:
Should I just give up on PC CoD? Are the points I mentioned above accurate? Also I'm in Australia if that helps.
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monny posted:Anyone feel like playing Superbrothers: Sword and Sworcery? Go *og wild! I remember wanting to try this and then I forgot about it. Thanks a bunch! The soundtrack alone seems pretty killer.
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neurotech posted:I've been feeling the urge to play a Call of Duty game on PC for a while. I really had a lot of fun with Black Ops 1 and have been trying to feel out just what is going on with CoD on PC lately. This is what I know so far: That's pretty much true, sadly. I really like AW but there's no real reason to play on PC, as the community didn't last.
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PREYING MANTITS posted:I remember wanting to try this and then I forgot about it. Thanks a bunch! The soundtrack alone seems pretty killer. Can someone explain to me how to move in Sword & Sorcery? I can move the camera, and I recall moving a mouse cursor? But I sure as poo poo couldn't move my dude, and I couldn't rebind keys or anything. A dud, but at least I got it in a Humble Bundle.
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Tippis posted:I feel that. Same, I get that feeling but this last time it didn't boot up and took me like 2 hours to figure out. I had some of those little power button cables messed up and I think I had one of the main mobo cables not plugged in or something odd like that. Worked fine after though.
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Awesome! posted:advanced warfare is already dead? that was fast  It's been around that level from launch day. The only time I saw it go higher was during the free weekend, but even then there were more people playing Besiege.
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CJacobs posted:If you want to make your own PC but don't like reading up on the compatibility of different parts just use Logical Increments. Then you can put the thing together like you're assembling a lego set and be and feel smarter for it. Don't buy a Steambox for no reason. Logical Increments is garbage and the PC Building thread in SH/SC will tell you why.
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Isnt the selling point of some of the steam machines that you can just swap out the graphics cards/RAM/cpu as you need to upgrade?
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