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Yinlock posted:this whole shitfest just started from me saying "hey reminder trump is bad" so uhh if lived experience does not remind people day to day and hour to hour that trump is bad idk what you expect a post to do  Balls, Edwin
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GobiasIndustries posted:True. I feel like it'd be an extra slap in the face w/ Ben tho, I mean a week ago he put out a statement saying he wasn't qualified to take that kinda job. maybe congress will eliminate the dept of HUD before he starts, so that whole problem could be solved without any unpleasantness on his part 
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Let's see how Breitbart is handling Trump's education pick "Hey guys what if Trump is actually boldly lying about everything straight to our faces?" he said two weeks after the election
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GobiasIndustries posted:True. I feel like it'd be an extra slap in the face w/ Ben tho, I mean a week ago he put out a statement saying he wasn't qualified to take that kinda job. If he goes in and listens to top level hired administrators, he'll probably do a decent job.  Partisan drift in HUD is more about how you interact with the private sector and grift then it is about the agencies goals.
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Nov 23, 2016 22:44
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Karl Sharks posted:the fact you think you shouldn't resist actual actions he's going to take is the bad part though yeah but in that case you kinda have to wait to see what he actually does, so you can oppose that, which requires him actualy being president. which he isnt, yet. trump himself doesnt know what the gently caress he is actually going to do, cuz hes a moron and also didnt expect to win and to that people would probably say "yeah just wait until the fascist takeover begins to resist, im sure that will work fine" to which i say well that the gently caress do you propose people do then. waiting and seeing is the only sensible strategy at this point
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babypolis posted:yeah but in that case you kinda have to wait to see what he actually does, so you can oppose that, which requires him actualy being president. which he isnt, yet. trump himself doesnt know what the gently caress he is actually going to do, cuz hes a moron and also didnt expect to win let's give him a chance
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the real worrying pick that trump has made is sessions at AG. But Republican AG's are their own brand and they're all bad.
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Schnorkles posted:the funny thing is that there really aren't picks to make who will make these people happy. The only picks they like so far are Bannon and Sessions. if Mittens gets SOS there will be a full meltdown.
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Montasque posted:The only picks they like so far are Bannon and Sessions. Bannon isn't even really a "pick."
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Karl Sharks posted:let's give him a chance you didnt answer my question!!!
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maybe bannon will give him sensible advice on how to bridge the racial gap in the country maybe sessions will help reform police departments maybe carson will make sure no person is without affordable housing maybe devos will turn our public education system around and help improve our performance let's give them a chance before we get involved or do anything
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Nov 23, 2016 22:47
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I mean you could like call your congressman and poo poo or something. There's a lot of stuff you can do that doesn't require the internment camp legislation to be moving through Congress yet.
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This is long and I don't really have much of a point, but I'm going to East Liverpool for Thanksgiving and I just wanted to put these thoughts about it someplace. I'm from across the river from East Liverpool, Ohio. If you don't know East Liverpool, and there's no reason you should, East Liverpool is where that "white working class economic anxiety" Trump voter lives. It's a town that used to be amazing. Back when there were steel mills nearby, East Liverpool was the country club city with all the fanciest stores and where the rich steel mill owners (cake eaters in the local parlance) lived. Downtown was actually bustling, like people walking on the street and dodging trolley cars bustling, all emboldened by the fact that this was the world's pottery capital (well it and the towns across the river to be fair). When the steel industry and pottery industry stopped being profitable to the cake eaters and they hopped onto the next bandwagon of poo poo like vulture capitalism, East Liverpool got hit hard. Nowadays basically the only people you see on the sidewalks are derelicts and the only real profitable business in town is the Hot Dog Shoppe. It's that typical economically blighted hell hole that pocks either side of the Ohio River as you travel down from Pittsburgh toward Kentucky. Around 1992-1993, a business came to town and told everyone they would have great new jobs. This business was WTI. I've long forgotten what WTI stands for and they changed their name a while ago. What WTI did was they were in the waste incineration business. That's literally what it sounds like: taking people's garbage and burning it. The company that was going to come into East Liverpool was literally a trash-burning company. People everywhere fought against it. The people across the river in West Virginia probably fought hardest. They drank Ohio River water and were concerned WTI would dump chemicals in it (they did of course). They breathed Ohio air and were afraid WTI would dump chemicals into it (they did of course). But the loudest contingent were the sooth sayers in East Liverpool, who said that WTI would soon become the place for every town around to dump their trash. And what's more, we're burning it, so it disappears and it's environmentally friendly (this was in response to the worries that landfills were filling up that were big around that time)! Bing bing bong! So simple! In the end, the desire for those jobs won out, the incinerator got built, and it still operates today. The original plans for expansion are gone, the lofty goal of hundreds of jobs gone, it's still just one lonely small facility on the river (in the middle of the black part of town, near an elementary school of course), burning trash endlessly, and employing about 18 people. East Liverpool never got the economic boon they were promised, but they did get one of the country's worst cancer rates. I guess what made me think of all that is that America basically just elected a giant trash fire because they were so desperate for jobs. If America starts to look anything like the hell that is East Liverpool on a larger scale, at least we'll still have the Hot Dog Shoppe.
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I think what I'm really trying to articulate is that trying to explain to people that Trump is bad does not work, this was basically the entire Clinton strategy The people who need you to tell them trump is bad are not going to be convinced by rational argument The people with Trumpstaffel boots on their faces don't need your reminder that Trump is bad, the taste of their own blood is a pretty good reminder So idk who that message is for. Yeah, Trump is bad. That message is either superfluous or unconvincing, depending on who you're directing it at. I bet it makes you feel good and like you're doing something, to repeat it ad nauseum, though, which I suspect is the actual motive.
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I mean Sessions stands with such luminaries as Alberto Gonzalez and John Ashcroft.
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tbh the best strategy is to send congress to this very thread so they can finally get a read on what the people want
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Aiyyo the Wednesday Night Movie is going to be one of these  http://www.psp-tv.com/r/NiteCrew 10 PM EST tonight
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babypolis posted:you didnt answer my question!!! get involved in local political parties, get in touch with advocacy groups that work in a particular field you're interested/experienced in to see what you can do, educate others, not roll over and just hold your breath to see if trump poisons us all or only gives us tuberculosis
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bonalb frump is bad
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Nov 23, 2016 22:49
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im not saying give him a chance ffs. hes not gonna be a good president. but theres a whole range of possibilities between "standard republican corporate stooge" and "orange hitler" and we dont know where trump will fall because hes a loving moron with only vague idea of how the government works
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Karl Sharks posted:maybe bannon will give him sensible advice on how to bridge the racial gap in the country can you honestly name any republican pick, anywhere, that would do these things? Trump's cabinet looks basically like we'd expect a republican cabinet to look like other than AG. Doubly so if he selects Mittens and Mattis.
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crazy cloud posted:So idk who that message is for. Yeah, Trump is bad. That message is either superfluous or unconvincing, depending on who you're directing it at. and again, people were immediately giving up/rationalizing after one day also my reminder did lead to you trying to invent canadian racial slurs which was p. funny at least
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Doomtalker posted:Hey Baloogan how do you feel that the key to the election was literally p-p-p-p-p-p-peckerwoods? lol ive been saying iit froever Brother Friendship posted:1) My wife wants to move to Canada so I read her Baloogan posts and tell her that's what Canada is like and she still wants to live in his attic and continue her affair with my boss's son? im living the canadian dream Intel&Sebastian posted:My wife actually has a viable path for her and me to get Canadian citizenship through her status as a First Nations tribal member up there but ruled it out because people are just as racist up there anyway. my stepdad was adopted into an indian band up here so im totally down with indians and i keep wanting to get indian status (for purely satirical reasons)
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babypolis posted:im not saying give him a chance ffs. hes not gonna be a good president. but theres a whole range of possibilities between "standard republican corporate stooge" and "orange hitler" and we dont know where trump will fall because hes a loving moron with only vague idea of how the government works babypolis posted:yeah but in that case you kinda have to wait to see what he actually does, so you can oppose that, which requires him actualy being president. which he isnt, yet. trump himself doesnt know what the gently caress he is actually going to do, cuz hes a moron and also didnt expect to win is standard republican something we shouldn't care about resisting now? maybe if we didn't have the bar being "literal orange hitler" as when we should get more involved we wouldn't be in this position
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euphronius posted:Do you think huma was ever sexted? everybody sexts
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crazy cloud posted:I think what I'm really trying to articulate is that trying to explain to people that Trump is bad does not work, this was basically the entire Clinton strategy Trump = bad
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Yinlock posted:and again, people were immediately giving up/rationalizing after one day Nobody is done grieving after 1 day The patient is still in shock and bleeding out its stump Hollering from across the border that it is not up and walking quickly enough for your liking is uhhhhhhhhhhhhh well it's not helpful
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Schnorkles posted:can you honestly name any republican pick, anywhere, that would do these things? ...which is my point? it seems like our threshold for when we'll do more than just vote every 4 years is to the point where we shrug our shoulders if it's not sufficiently hitler-ish enough we need a boot on the throat to actually care, and that's why we lost
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Baloogan posted:my stepdad was adopted into an indian band up here so im totally down with indians and i keep wanting to get indian status (for purely satirical reasons) what instrument does he play
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Karl Sharks posted:...which is my point? it seems like our threshold for when we'll do more than just vote every 4 years is to the point where we shrug our shoulders if it's not sufficiently hitler-ish enough we lost because our outreach and messaging to the rust belt was poo poo.
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Schnorkles posted:we lost because our outreach and messaging to the rust belt was poo poo. and if more people cared, maybe we would've had people who knew that was a poo poo idea involved to fix that
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Karl Sharks posted:maybe bannon will give him sensible advice on how to bridge the racial gap in the country Bannon wants to make a coalition of White/Black working class to push out Muslims! THE GAP WILL BE BRIDGED!
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crazy cloud posted:Nobody is done grieving after 1 day the people giving up were the same people who said they wouldn't, literally the day before.
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Nov 23, 2016 22:55
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Yinlock posted:and again, people were immediately giving up/rationalizing after one day Invent nothing I'm just continuing to crib from Infinite Jest like the omega nerd I am, it's all good my maplefriend President Donny Gentle, Famous Crooner will #MAGA and clean up America of the 'nuck scourge
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Karl Sharks posted:and if more people cared, maybe we would've had people who knew that was a poo poo idea involved to fix that mike rowe knew
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crazy cloud posted:Invent nothing I'm just continuing to crib from Infinite Jest like the omega nerd I am, it's all good my maplefriend it's a pretty good slur tbf like im too puzzled to be offended by it but i feel like i should be a+
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Nov 23, 2016 22:56
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Schnorkles posted:I mean Sessions stands with such luminaries as Alberto Gonzalez and John Ashcroft. The last I guy I remember, but I don't recall the former.
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Some chick got half her arm blown off by a cooked concussion grenade at the DAPL protests of illegal drilling but yeah let's hold up on resisting until the whole police state thing is going full bore
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Karl Sharks posted:is standard republican something we shouldn't care about resisting now? maybe if we didn't have the bar being "literal orange hitler" as when we should get more involved we wouldn't be in this position like i said that stuff should have nothing to do with who is president! you should help people because you want to help them, regardless of which party controls goverment
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